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Reply #30 posted 03/29/06 5:19am

Spookymuffin

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We could be on the something. Then again, my theory could be rubbish


falloff

The latter is true, you're digging faaar to deep.
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Reply #31 posted 03/29/06 5:59am

IADOREHIM

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last night i was watching "king of queens" .....

and noticed on their door that doug and carrie's address is 3121

i bet that's what it means
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Reply #32 posted 03/29/06 6:00am

NouveauDance

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BorisFishpaw said:

a clue is in the way the 'ones' are written differently...
here's the solution.

H = 1
W = 2
Y = 3


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Reply #33 posted 03/29/06 6:21am

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Heiress said:

KoolEaze said:


It´s cool with me that he´s a Jehova´s Witness, but using cryptic numerology and probably make his fans sing along "Jehovah, Jehovah" (=3121) would be a bit in bad taste because that´s not the way to go, and I´m sure most JWs would agree on this.


singing "Jehovah Jehovah" like that in concert would be in kind of bad taste, IMHO.



That´s what I´m saying...if 3121 does indeed stand for YHVH, which we still haven´t heard from the horse´s mouth.

A friend of mine is a JW and he doesn´t agree with a lot of things Prince is doing as a JW, but that´s another story.

I´m still a bit sceptical about this theory though it does sound possible...I mean, singing 3121 , embedded in the rest of the context/lyrics is a bit in bad taste, IMHO. It´s also a bit like tricking/forcing people into indirectly chanting the name of your God or belief system, that´s all I´m saying. I have no problem whatsoever with his religious choices, quite on the contrary.


That failed "experiment" that he tried during the 2002 celebration is what I thought of when I read Boris´ post.That wasn´t cool, that was pure propaganda, and that´s not nice, no matter if he´s a JW, Mormon, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever.

But hey, we don´t know for sure, and I REALLY love the song 3121.

And even if Boris is right, I´ll just take the positive vibe as I always do, cuz I´m a grown man and don´t need a musician to give me religious directions.
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Reply #34 posted 03/29/06 6:33am

booyah

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Yahweh by U2 is a great song. Yahweh isn't a term exclusive to JWs. And Prince used to get people to chant "Love is God, God is Love, Girls and Boys love God above" - back in '88/'89, and in '02.
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Reply #35 posted 03/29/06 6:33am

Heiress

KoolEaze said:

Heiress said:



singing "Jehovah Jehovah" like that in concert would be in kind of bad taste, IMHO.



That´s what I´m saying...if 3121 does indeed stand for YHVH, which we still haven´t heard from the horse´s mouth.

A friend of mine is a JW and he doesn´t agree with a lot of things Prince is doing as a JW, but that´s another story.

I´m still a bit sceptical about this theory though it does sound possible...I mean, singing 3121 , embedded in the rest of the context/lyrics is a bit in bad taste, IMHO. It´s also a bit like tricking/forcing people into indirectly chanting the name of your God or belief system, that´s all I´m saying. I have no problem whatsoever with his religious choices, quite on the contrary.


That failed "experiment" that he tried during the 2002 celebration is what I thought of when I read Boris´ post.That wasn´t cool, that was pure propaganda, and that´s not nice, no matter if he´s a JW, Mormon, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever.

But hey, we don´t know for sure, and I REALLY love the song 3121.

And even if Boris is right, I´ll just take the positive vibe as I always do, cuz I´m a grown man and don´t need a musician to give me religious directions.


i'm a little more worried about his decorating! eek

anyway, saying "hallelujah" which is "Praise Jah" wouldn't be inappropriate... just yelling "Jehovah" is a bit odd.
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Reply #36 posted 03/29/06 7:14am

KoolEaze

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Heiress said:

KoolEaze said:




That´s what I´m saying...if 3121 does indeed stand for YHVH, which we still haven´t heard from the horse´s mouth.

A friend of mine is a JW and he doesn´t agree with a lot of things Prince is doing as a JW, but that´s another story.

I´m still a bit sceptical about this theory though it does sound possible...I mean, singing 3121 , embedded in the rest of the context/lyrics is a bit in bad taste, IMHO. It´s also a bit like tricking/forcing people into indirectly chanting the name of your God or belief system, that´s all I´m saying. I have no problem whatsoever with his religious choices, quite on the contrary.


That failed "experiment" that he tried during the 2002 celebration is what I thought of when I read Boris´ post.That wasn´t cool, that was pure propaganda, and that´s not nice, no matter if he´s a JW, Mormon, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever.

But hey, we don´t know for sure, and I REALLY love the song 3121.

And even if Boris is right, I´ll just take the positive vibe as I always do, cuz I´m a grown man and don´t need a musician to give me religious directions.


i'm a little more worried about his decorating! eek

anyway, saying "hallelujah" which is "Praise Jah" wouldn't be inappropriate... just yelling "Jehovah" is a bit odd.




Actually, it doesn´t really bother me that much, it´s part of his artistic vision, so why not...this is the man who sung "God" in seethrough lacepants in 1984, so it´s all good as far as I´m concerned lol :



Why do so many people hate his ( indeed a bit tacky) decorating ?

Then again, some of my friends laugh about me for having a similarly bad taste lol ....they know who they are...


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Reply #37 posted 03/29/06 7:29am

EmancipationLo
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Heiress said:

Krid said:

And I think it just comes down to the mystical number 7 (3+1+2+1=7).

QED (now what does that mean ??? biggrin )


isn't that the title of a gertrude stein novel? confuse


QED = quod erat demonstrandum = latin for "what had to be proven"
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Reply #38 posted 03/29/06 9:11am

dreamfirstborn

2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter.


recap...

1 clue..... 1 number = 2 letters 1 of those letters is reversed
2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter





tick tock tick tock tick tock..
prince is here
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Reply #39 posted 03/29/06 9:12am

dreamfirstborn

2nd clue


3 numbers = 1 letter.
prince is here
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Reply #40 posted 03/29/06 9:25am

booyah

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I keep wondering why the "2" appears fluid, like it's all one piece of cloth, while the "3" is clearly three different pieces.
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Reply #41 posted 03/29/06 9:30am

bigsexy

Maybe it's how many chicks Prince has been with.
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Reply #42 posted 03/29/06 9:33am

FunkMistress

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booyah said:

Yahweh by U2 is a great song. Yahweh isn't a term exclusive to JWs. And Prince used to get people to chant "Love is God, God is Love, Girls and Boys love God above" - back in '88/'89, and in '02.


Excellent point.
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Reply #43 posted 03/29/06 11:12pm

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dreamfirstborn said:

2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter.


recap...

1 clue..... 1 number = 2 letters 1 of those letters is reversed
2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter





tick tock tick tock tick tock..


I don't know, might just be me, but it sound like that just equals NO CLUE!
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #44 posted 03/30/06 1:00am

Heiress

EmancipationLover said:

Heiress said:



isn't that the title of a gertrude stein novel? confuse


QED = quod erat demonstrandum = latin for "what had to be proven"


There you are...

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Reply #45 posted 03/30/06 9:25am

p0et

dreamfirstborn said:

2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter.


recap...

1 clue..... 1 number = 2 letters 1 of those letters is reversed
2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter





tick tock tick tock tick tock..


I used to see lots of hidden messages when I was into LSD too ...
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Reply #46 posted 03/30/06 9:42am

Spookymuffin

p0et said:

dreamfirstborn said:

2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter.


recap...

1 clue..... 1 number = 2 letters 1 of those letters is reversed
2 clue..... 3 numbers = 1 letter





tick tock tick tock tick tock..


I used to see lots of hidden messages when I was into LSD too ...


Oooh, what's this? A lame gag!
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Reply #47 posted 03/30/06 9:56am

bizarre

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Please tell us, dreamfirstborn. thanks cool
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Reply #48 posted 03/30/06 11:01am

ewald

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I did put a copy in the microwave,
the sparks formed a shape of Jehova himself....
Thank God this ain't Monopoly
U'd make us all go back 2 start
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Reply #49 posted 03/30/06 11:10am

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KoolEaze said:

Heiress said:



singing "Jehovah Jehovah" like that in concert would be in kind of bad taste, IMHO.



That´s what I´m saying...if 3121 does indeed stand for YHVH, which we still haven´t heard from the horse´s mouth.

A friend of mine is a JW and he doesn´t agree with a lot of things Prince is doing as a JW, but that´s another story.

I´m still a bit sceptical about this theory though it does sound possible...I mean, singing 3121 , embedded in the rest of the context/lyrics is a bit in bad taste, IMHO. It´s also a bit like tricking/forcing people into indirectly chanting the name of your God or belief system, that´s all I´m saying. I have no problem whatsoever with his religious choices, quite on the contrary.


That failed "experiment" that he tried during the 2002 celebration is what I thought of when I read Boris´ post.That wasn´t cool, that was pure propaganda, and that´s not nice, no matter if he´s a JW, Mormon, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever.

But hey, we don´t know for sure, and I REALLY love the song 3121.

And even if Boris is right, I´ll just take the positive vibe as I always do, cuz I´m a grown man and don´t need a musician to give me religious directions.



wait what happened??
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #50 posted 03/30/06 11:14am

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bigsexy said:

Maybe it's how many chicks Prince has been with.

falloff
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #51 posted 03/30/06 1:05pm

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a quick google serch led to this

"Dove" in OT Hebrew

Spelling Definition of "Dove" in Hebrew
(letter definitions come from Sampson)

The Hebrew word for "dove" is YVNH (3123) is very close in spelling to YHVH (3068) Jehovah.

The main difference is that the first (YVNH: "dove") includes the letter N (nun), which signifies "a winged messenger;" or in this case, "The winged messenger of Jehovah." That certainly fits the idea of a dove.

The V (vav) signifies "covenant." Y (yod), usually masculine, can signify "the Word;" and H (heh), feminine, often signifies the gentle attributes so typified in women and children (become as a child).

A distilled definition for YVNH ("dove") in this case, based on the letters that make it up, might therefore be: "The Word made flesh (Y) makes a covenant through baptism (V), receives the heavenly witness of the Winged Messenger (N), and is endowed from on high with charity, meekness, gentleness, mercy (H)."
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Reply #52 posted 03/30/06 1:16pm

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arron said:

a quick google serch led to this

"Dove" in OT Hebrew

[buncha biblical stuff was here]

okay...so, where's the beef? why's 3121 two doors over from all that, then? lol
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Reply #53 posted 03/30/06 1:42pm

booyah

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Alright, what the hell, I'll bite.

From http://bible.crosswalk.co...ubmit=Find (a search for 3121):

Strong's Number: 03121 Browse Lexicon
Original Word Word Origin
!wy from the same as (03196)
Transliterated Word TDNT Entry
Yaven TWOT - 853a
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
yaw-ven' Noun Masculine

Definition
mire, mirer


King James Word Usage - Total: 2
miry 1, mire 1




Hebrew Word: !wy
Transliterated Word: yaven
Book to Display: Psalms
Verse Count: 2


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Ps 40:2 He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry clay, and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings.
Ps 69:2 I sink in deep mire, where there is no standing: I am come into deep waters, where the floods overflow me.


Interesting that Psalm 40 is the psalm U2's perennial concert-closer "40" also came from.

The New Living Translation is "2He lifted me out of the pit of despair,out of the mud and the mire. He set my feet on solid ground and steadied me as I walked along", which fits with how Prince sees salvation in his own life (from an outsider's perspective, of course).

I can't find an online tool for the New World Translation, which is the JW's version. Please don't confuse New Living Translation (NLT), which is a commonly-used translation in modern churches, with the New World Translation, which is a JW-only translation.
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Reply #54 posted 03/30/06 2:04pm

bizarre

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I'm sure this is just a tricky way that Prince is trying to get us to read the bible. confused And it's working, you clever dog! (we need to get a little bible study emoticon in here)
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Reply #55 posted 03/30/06 2:29pm

purpledisc

Just out of curiosity, Where was the very first "hidden Message" in a Prince album or Record cover found???


Off the top of my head its like, Gett Off (mirrored text) for a record cover and Alphabet St for the video (The 'Dont buy the black album')....But where is the original very first "hidden Message"???
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Reply #56 posted 03/30/06 2:36pm

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I speak Hebrew and have NO IDEA what you guys r on about! razz

Depends what u consider "hidden messages" but there's plenty to look for on the 1999 album cover, and then there was the backwards stuff on Darling Nikki, but I'm sure there's stuff from b4 that...
"We've never been able to pull off a funk number"

"That's becuase we're soulless auttomatons"
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Reply #57 posted 03/30/06 2:36pm

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bizarre said:

I'm sure this is just a tricky way that Prince is trying to get us to read the bible. confused And it's working, you clever dog! (we need to get a little bible study emoticon in here)


Hey, I read the Bible most days - but I guess there's a difference between doing it wilfully, and doing it because it will help uncover some Prince secret biggrin

I think this is as close as we can get to a Bible emoticon. reading
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Reply #58 posted 03/30/06 2:38pm

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Krid said:

And I think it just comes down to the mystical number 7 (3+1+2+1=7).

QED (now what does that mean ??? biggrin )


I agree somthing about:
(Seven)
It's Tight, But I Think I Could Fit U In!
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Reply #59 posted 03/30/06 2:39pm

Jerad51

I am sure we are all aware that if you add 3+1+2+1=7 but also if you add 31+21=52, 5+2=7. Also on the ablum cover the top of portion of the three is clearly a seven.
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