scirasco69 said:

and who u gonna blame if this record will not sell more then 1million!!!!

scirasco69 said:

i don't think selling 1 million has anything to do with prince, maybe destiny's child, but not prince, he's sold 60 million world-wide already... quality and quantity wise he's done well.. Don't take what i said so personal, you have a valid point there about prince, we're just discussing. You don't really know me, so if i act like i'm best-friends with prince that's up to me. I feel alienated now. But i totally respect your point view.
[Edited 4/8/06 21:27pm]

chunky said:

U tell em chunky Anit got nothing 2 do with Prince..that's4 somebody beggin 2 b carried by a label,but not Prince,LAWD I'm so glad it has dawned so shit like this doesnt matter.YAll motherfuckers still Hatin after 20 yrs. yall haters ought 2 see by now it dont matter,not to us r Prince "Coz babe he's got me, and we're doing fine",so go have and baby and b happy like us! and then u can Love 2.because Love conquers all, love,not old freaks.LOVE. Why don't yall haters, who seems to think ya know what it takes, all go rent a studio, and make yo own dam recordz. see if they will sell a million copys.until then why u motherfuckers think Prince gonna take ur hating azz anit never sold no recordz, anit got nobody that want2 hear shit yall gotta say advice?

the purple cloud only lastet 1 week,yes i know this record will not do much better then musicology,since when do we have to be hyped and blindfolded,prince i hope u will wake up and find yourself, u haven't been the same since lovesexy,when will the yes mam people dissappear,and when will u challenge yourself again,when will u be the leader that u once where,did hype, money,ego got a hold of youre creativity,who are U when the heavy weather is blowing where is youre character!!!?????

scirasco69 said:

You're forgetting one thing. Lovesexy was a commercial disaster in the states. I'm tired of people looking at Prince's career through rose colored glasses. Albums like ATWIAD, Parade, and Lovesexy sank Prince's commercial career.

You're forgetting one thing. Lovesexy was a commercial disaster in the states. I'm tired of people looking at Prince's career through rose colored glasses. Albums like ATWIAD, Parade, and Lovesexy sank Prince's commercial career.

scirasco69 said:

You're forgetting one thing. Lovesexy was a commercial disaster in the states. I'm tired of people looking at Prince's career through rose colored glasses. Albums like ATWIAD, Parade, and Lovesexy sank Prince's commercial career.

WIth 38.97% in on Hits Daily DOuble 3121 is out of the top 50.

WIth 38.97% in on Hits Daily DOuble 3121 is out of the top 50.

loudawg said:

i don't measure prince on sales at all it seems u all get validation that way for a mediocre record,so if this all doesn't matter way did some of u guys say on this forum if this record doesn't sell it is all promotions fault why is prince allways going back to major labels after all that slave disaster,the truth is that u guys accept whatever is in front of u,that's what u call a fan,i don't want anybody fake around tellin me how great i am when it's not true there was a time when prince was forced to listen and let me tell u it defenately seems to suit him much better,this record record is mediocre at best and unfortunately for some quite some time his fans choose to be the same ,as far for live shows the purple on delivers,as a recording artist he is dead !!!!

what's so mediocre about black sweat, be more specific here?

chunky said:

- Well...comparing it to ´Kiss´, for example, it´s very mediocre. The same concept...no bass, minimalist dry funk, good groove...but the melody....Black Sweat has no melody! It grew on me since the first listening, and now I can say I like it...but let´s consider I am a hardcore fan and I had patience to let the song grow on me a little bit. I doubt that the casual fan that turns on the radio will get hooked...

It´s interesting...Prince is always making big money, big ´comebacks´ but he doesn´t have a HIT for almost 15 years...I wonder if he will keep on insisting or if he will quit and concentrate on doing great music. I think some songs on 3121 had commercial potential, but dont understand why Prince didnt choose them to promote, since Universal has being very good marketing so far.

So what is "great music". Music good enough to feature in a box-office smash hit movie? What about the new sound prince is bringing? He is also polishing up his persona. what more can we want?

chunky said:

- Great music for me is great composition. One of the best/worst things about 3121 is that it shows Prince as a great trend-follower. He showed the world that he could do a modern production exactly the same way of the songs that hit the dancefloors around the world. It´s like if Paul Mc Cartney could sound like Linkin Park if he wanted to. Different from Rave, 3121 production doesnt sound outdated and I believe songs like ´Incense and candles´ would do pretty well on dance floors if well promoted.

When I said ´great music´ I meant that Prince could focus on HIS music and write great melodies/grooves instead of emulating the mainstream...like he did with TRC, for example.

GustavoRibas said:

couldn't have said it better

LW TW artist / album label power index % change
-- 1 PRINCE UNIVERSAL 184,450 --
3121
1 2 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL WALT DISNEY RECORDS 153,202 +14%
SOUNDTRACK
2 3 JAMES BLUNT CUSTARD/ATLANTIC/ATL G 112,186 -10%
BACK TO BEDLAM
20 4 BARRY MANILOW ARISTA/RMG 73,959 +127%
THE GREATEST SONGS OF THE...
4 5 NE-YO DEF JAM/IDJMG 69,200 -10%
IN MY OWN WORDS
-- 6 B.G. KOCH 62,046 --
THE HEART OF THA STREETZ VOL.2
-- 7 BEN HARPER VIRGIN 56,018 --
BOTH SIDES OF THE GUN
8 8 JOHNNY CASH ISLAND/IDJMG 54,170 -3%
I WALK THE LINE: THE LEGEND...
-- 9 TEDDY GEIGER COLUMBIA/CRG 53,453 --
UNDERAGE THINKING
18 10 ALAN JACKSON ACR/ARISTA NASHVILLE 51,193 +36%
PRECIOUS MEMORIES
6 11 CARRIE UNDERWOOD ARISTA/RMG 49,055 -24%
SOME HEARTS
13 12 MARY J. BLIGE GEFFEN 45,386 +3%
THE BREAKTHROUGH
10 13 JACK JOHNSON & FRIENDS...CURIOUS BRUSHFIRE/UNIVERSAL 43,649 -14%
SOUNDTRACK
7 14 MATISYAHU OR/EPIC 42,971 -29%
YOUTH
11 15 WALK THE LINE WIND-UP 42,837 -13%
SOUNDTRACK
5 16 JUVENILE ATLANTIC/ATL G 41,295 -38%
REALITY CHECK
-- 17 KENNY ROGERS CAPITOL NASHVILLE 40,388 --
WATER & BRIDGES
16 18 NICKELBACK ROADRUNNER/IDJMG 40,322 +5%
ALL THE RIGHT REASONS
14 19 EMINEM SHADY/AFTERMATH/INT 40,259 +1%
CURTAIN CALL
12 20 ANDREA BOCELLI DECCA 39,050 -14%
AMORE
3 21 E-40 WARNER BROS. 37,416 -61%
MY GHETTO REPORT CARD
9 22 FALL OUT BOY ISLAND/IDJMG 35,916 -34%
FROM UNDER THE CORK TREE
17 23 THE BLACK EYED PEAS A&M/INTERSCOPE 33,585 -11%
MONKEY BUSINESS
21 24 JOSH TURNER MCA NASHVILLE 32,813 +1%
YOUR MAN
25 25 SEAN PAUL VP/ATLANTIC/ATL G 32,750 +8%
TRINITY
22 26 PUSSYCAT DOLLS A&M/INTERSCOPE 31,636 -2%
PCD
19 27 KELLY CLARKSON RCA/RMG 31,480 -11%
BREAKAWAY
23 28 HAWTHORNE HEIGHTS VICTORY 30,665 -4%
IF ONLY YOU WERE LONELY
30 29 KEYSHIA COLE A&M/INTERSCOPE 30,661 +8%
WAY IT IS
31 30 PANIC! AT THE DISCO FUELED BY RAMEN 30,659 +8%
A FEVER YOU CAN'T SWEAT OUT
-- 31 MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE REPRISE 29,876 --
LIFE ON THE MURDER SCENE
35 32 ALL-AMERICAN REJECTS DREAMWORKS 27,453 +4%
MOVE ALONG
34 33 KEITH URBAN CAPITOL NASHVILLE 26,862 0%
BE HERE
29 34 RASCAL FLATTS LYRIC STREET 26,666 -8%
FEELS LIKE TODAY
-- 35 FROM FIRST TO LAST EPITAPH 26,438 --
HEROINE
-- 36 NOW LATIN0 SONY BMG LATINO 25,944 --
VARIOUS
40 37 CHAMILLIONAIRE UNIVERSAL 25,515 +10%
THE SOUND OF REVENGE
28 38 MICHAEL BUBLE REPRISE 25,503 -13%
IT'S TIME
-- 39 CHICAGO RHINO/WEA 24,911 --
XXX
41 40 NATASHA BEDINGFIELD EPIC 23,788 +4%
UNWRITTEN
36 41 CHRIS BROWN JIVE/ZLG 23,763 -9%
CHRIS BROWN
33 42 JOHNNY CASH LEGACY 23,279 -13%
16 BIGGEST HITS
26 43 DEM FRANCHIZE BOYZ SO SO DEF/VIRGIN 22,818 -24%
ON TOP OF OUR GAME
15 44 DAVID GILMOUR COLUMBIA/CRG 22,077 -43%
ON AN ISLAND
32 45 JAMIE FOXX J RECORDS/RMG 21,800 -20%
UNPREDICTABLE
38 46 T-PAIN JIVE/ZLG 21,087 -15%
RAPPA TERNT SANGA
-- 47 ARCTIC MONKEYS DOMINO 20,704 --
WHATEVER PEOPLE SAY I AM,....
-- 48 HEATHER HEADLEY RCA/RMG 18,995 --
IN MY MIND
43 49 KIDZ BOP KIDS 9 RAZOR & TIE 18,861 -13%
VARIOUS
-- 50 IL DIVO COLUMBIA/CRG 18,252 --
ANCORA

Charts dont concern me that much really as i buy what i like(commercial or otherwise)and dont follow the mindless pack that love abba,celine dion,elvis,etc,etc but it says alot about the record buying public in the uk when 3121 enters the top 20 at number 9 and then it drops like a lead balloon out the charts and Black Sweat doesnt make the top 40 while people continue to buy pop and dance rubbish like the mindless zombified individuals they mostly are.Prince and his uk career seems to be finished in my opinion which is sad and it would have been nice if prince had done more self-promotion over here for a change or even toured.looks like the united kingdom prince fanatics are getting letdown once more as usual.I want to know seriously AM I THE ONLY PRINCE FANATIC IN SCOTLAND AND THE UK OVERALL?.