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Thread started 03/26/06 3:38pm

Militant

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Prince is #12 in UK r'n'b charts......with Emancipation??!?!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radi...bums.shtml


This must be because HMV has been selling it for £1.99. Nice fucking move HMV, now everyone is obviously going to buy Emancipation instead of 3121. I mean, fuck, if I wasnt a hardcore Prince fan, and I walked into HMV today looking to get into Prince, I'd probably choose 3 discs for £1.99 as well!!
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Reply #1 posted 03/26/06 3:54pm

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£1.99! lol

I mean, fookin hell! disbelief

lots of old surplus stock to get rid of, how low can it go?
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Reply #2 posted 03/26/06 4:25pm

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For that price, it should have been #1.
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



"We had fun, didn't we?"
-Prince (1958-2016) 4ever in my life
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Reply #3 posted 03/26/06 4:38pm

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Militant said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/rnbalbums.shtml


This must be because HMV has been selling it for £1.99. Nice fucking move HMV, now everyone is obviously going to buy Emancipation instead of 3121. I mean, fuck, if I wasnt a hardcore Prince fan, and I walked into HMV today looking to get into Prince, I'd probably choose 3 discs for £1.99 as well!!



ehhh... shrug
Space for sale...
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Reply #4 posted 03/26/06 10:57pm

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Militant said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/rnbalbums.shtml


This must be because HMV has been selling it for £1.99. Nice fucking move HMV, now everyone is obviously going to buy Emancipation instead of 3121. I mean, fuck, if I wasnt a hardcore Prince fan, and I walked into HMV today looking to get into Prince, I'd probably choose 3 discs for £1.99 as well!!


Ha! Sounds like HMV getting their own back - "You saddled us with thousands of these 3CD box that takes up too much room on our shelves and no one wants - now we're going to get our revenge and sabotage your current release! Album you were born to make my arse!"
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Reply #5 posted 03/26/06 11:39pm

softandwet

HMV have most of his back catalogue on sale, alot of albums at a fiver, emancipation at £2.

its really cool i think, though i shudder to think about how much surplus stock they have, i mean, every sale they've done since i've followed prince, from 2001, has had that album at that price.

i wonder how many copies you need to sell to get to that position in the charts! Probably just a few hundred or a thousand or so? or maybe a coupla thousand?

i'd love to know the figures!
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Reply #6 posted 03/27/06 4:54am

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Anyone buying 3121 for £12 or whatever it's retailing at who doesn't already own Emancipation at £1.99 must be retarded. Better to buy six copies of this excellent inspired collection for same price than the latest in line of major label "comebacks".
Glug, glug like a mug
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Reply #7 posted 03/27/06 5:03am

Marco81

I was in London on March 20th (the release date for 3121 in the uk) and I went 2 HMV at Oxford Circus and bought 3121 (10.99£) + Emancipation (1.99£) + 1999 (4.99£)....cheap!

p.s. I already had Emancipation and 1999...just wanted 2 extra copies...4 that price it's cool!
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Reply #8 posted 03/27/06 6:33am

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Marrk said:

£1.99! lol

I mean, fookin hell! disbelief

lots of old surplus stock to get rid of, how low can it go?


Emancipation has been going for that price for YEARS. Really tells you something about how "reliable" those sales figures were back then, hm?
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Reply #9 posted 03/27/06 6:34am

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Militant said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/rnbalbums.shtml

This must be because HMV has been selling it for £1.99.


Then the BPI has been sleeping at the wheel again. These kind of sales normally cannot count towards the charts.
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Reply #10 posted 03/27/06 6:37am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Marrk said:

£1.99! lol

I mean, fookin hell! disbelief

lots of old surplus stock to get rid of, how low can it go?


Emancipation has been going for that price for YEARS. Really tells you something about how "reliable" those sales figures were back then, hm?


If you mean that the number of copies record stores order count for the charts and not the number of copies costumers actually buy, isn't that the case for any album by any artist?
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Reply #11 posted 03/27/06 6:41am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Marrk said:

£1.99! lol

I mean, fookin hell! disbelief

lots of old surplus stock to get rid of, how low can it go?


Emancipation has been going for that price for YEARS. Really tells you something about how "reliable" those sales figures were back then, hm?



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Reply #12 posted 03/27/06 6:57am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Militant said:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/rnbalbums.shtml

This must be because HMV has been selling it for £1.99.


Then the BPI has been sleeping at the wheel again. These kind of sales normally cannot count towards the charts.


Not the official charts. Radio 1's R'n'B charts.
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Reply #13 posted 03/27/06 6:59am

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Militant said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Then the BPI has been sleeping at the wheel again. These kind of sales normally cannot count towards the charts.


Not the official charts. Radio 1's R'n'B charts.


Never mind Bart... he has a problem with "facts" these days... neutral
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Reply #14 posted 03/27/06 7:04am

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Militant said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Then the BPI has been sleeping at the wheel again. These kind of sales normally cannot count towards the charts.


Not the official charts. Radio 1's R'n'B charts.


Or whatever chart. Any chart organisation with any selfrespect will disqualify these kind of bargain bin sales.
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Reply #15 posted 03/27/06 7:06am

MartyMcFly

BartVanHemelen said:

Militant said:



Not the official charts. Radio 1's R'n'B charts.


Or whatever chart. Any chart organisation with any selfrespect will disqualify these kind of bargain bin sales.



.... and any kind of artist/albums that hasn't earned the official "Bart van Hemelen" seal of approval...
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Reply #16 posted 03/27/06 7:13am

NouveauDance

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Militant said:


This must be because HMV has been selling it for £1.99. Nice fucking move HMV, now everyone is obviously going to buy Emancipation instead of 3121. I mean, fuck, if I wasnt a hardcore Prince fan, and I walked into HMV today looking to get into Prince, I'd probably choose 3 discs for £1.99 as well!!


I wouldn't have thought so. The pre-conception that Prince's output is self-indulgent over-blown pompus tosh would counteract any price tag.
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Reply #17 posted 03/27/06 7:16am

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BartVanHemelen said:

Militant said:



Not the official charts. Radio 1's R'n'B charts.


Or whatever chart. Any chart organisation with any selfrespect will disqualify these kind of bargain bin sales.


So how expensive does an album have to be to be counted for the charts?

I picked up Bowie's "Low" for £ 4.99 yesterday. Just in case, if many people in the UK do the same, do you think the record shouldn't chart?
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Reply #18 posted 03/27/06 7:22am

FunkyBrotha

the price has got absolutely nothing to do with the artist or the amount of copies sold. Emancipation has sold pretty well compared to his other albums because of continuous sale prices in virgin mega and hmv. The fact that is has this exposure is great, warner bros should invest in princes catalogue and reap similar rewards.
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Reply #19 posted 03/27/06 7:36am

softandwet

i'm not sure of the ins and outs of it, I know billboard often reports an albums rise once its on special offer. for example they might say something like 'green days american idiot rose back to the top of the charts this week, helped by a 2 for £20 offer in retail outlets - or - due to discount price over the holiday period' etc.

I don't know if being £2 would disqualify it. smells like balls to me...
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Reply #20 posted 03/28/06 12:48am

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EmancipationLover said:

BartVanHemelen said:



Or whatever chart. Any chart organisation with any selfrespect will disqualify these kind of bargain bin sales.


So how expensive does an album have to be to be counted for the charts?


The copies of Emancipation sold for next to nothing are the same as cut-outs.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut-out
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cut_out

Cut-outs are bad for artists, because a) they don't get royalties from those records and b) those records don't chart.
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