In the book "Purple Reign" Prince is quoted around the Black Album times of being on Ecstasy and or Marijuana, anyone have any insight?

paisleypark4 said:

I think he probably was.

Read DMSR. It's pure speculation.

Those who were around him at the time have said that if true, this would have been very out of character for Prince.

Hopefully we can avoid yet another "did he or didn't he" thread. The truth is that no one knows for sure, and it certainly matters little 14 years later.

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I live in Mini...i really don't think so. I've heard he's has a drink every once in a long while, but never any other drugs(as alcohol is a drug, of course).

I think he values his mental facilities way too much to f' around with them. The book you read offers no real evidence or credible witnesses for their remarks.

mrchristian said



Well Per in DMSR quotes Matt Fink as saying that Prince had a bad ecstasy trip so I would say that is a credible witness.

A while ago I read something about Mayte finding Prince passed out cold with a couple of wine bottles around him. The source of this information was the twin sisters who were hired to work for Mayte at Paisley.

I can't remember their names, I only remember that they were twins and one was hired to be a bodyguard for Mayte and the other was hired to be a personal assistant for Mayte. These two ladies gave several tell-all interviews in which they said all kinds of stuff, including accusing Prince of starving Mayte while she was pregnant.

lovemachine said:

He was hardly a witness. Here is what is printed in the book, quoting Matt Fink: "He had a bad ecstasy trip and felt that the album was the devil working through him. I heard this directly from Gilbert [Davidson], who was there at Paisley Park the night it happened. Prince was with Cat or Ingrid."

Can anyone say, hearsay!

Whatever. Some say he did, some say he didn't. Most say that if it did occur, it was a one-off experience. Judging from the content of his music, his devotion to spiritual life, and his disdain for former band members who destroyed themselves by drug abuse, I'd say there's not a lot to argue about.

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Fact is that Prince snorted coke before he got called on stage by james brown back in 1982. he didnt sing a word, played a few chords on guitar, then he hit a stage light which fell into the audience. the source for this is reliable and I dont doubt it happened. another friend of mine (a musician who I do not want to name here) told me he smoked a joint with prince back in the 1999 era. I believe that prince experimented with drugs around that time and there is no need to be ashamed of that. drugs do not destroy the spiritual content of music. best examples are john coltrane, miles and mingus

Batdance said:

Take ANYTHING those ladies say with a grain of salt! I heard that story about them finding Prince passed out,and I don't believe a word of it.Rememeber,these are the same "loyal employees" who tried to accuse Prince of killing his own baby!

TheMax said:

Wasn't it engineer Susan Rogers who discovered Prince at Paisley Park,having a bad ecstasy trip? She mentions that Prince's eyes were red,and that he was telling her weird things like "I love U...do U love me?".She got scared and walked out(this is also in the DMSR book).

But,if Prince did experiment with ecstasy or any other drug,I say "So what?".It certainly hasn't affected him or his music in a negative way,and he never got hooked on anything.

At the very least, it may have stunted his growth!

I wouldn't ose for real to do judge about it, but in some pictures fromthe 90ties, he doesn't look very healthy..., so thinn!

Batdance said:

These were Mojicas (I think) sisters... one can see them on Oprah Winfrey interview from 1996. I read their story in one of UK tabloids (have a xerox copy of it somewhere). Sad story and I doubt much of it is true.

lovesexy sounds like an acid/X trip 2 me...

DavidEye said:

the One thing that backs that story up is the Video for the "Holy River".One of Prince's most Personal Video's IMHO.

DavidEye said:

I Agree with you Man it hasn't messed with His Mind at all.besides Prince doesn't Need Drugs to Trip you Out Bro Man is a Trip without any Help.I would Dig a Prince Comedy TOur with Him,Michael Jackson,Rick James,Little Richard,Stevie Wonder&Philip Bailey&Bobby Womack that would not only Be a Great Musical Show but those Cats together could truly call themselves the Kings of Comedy.George Clinton has to be there as well.He cracks me up.

mistermaxxx said:

can't leave out James Brown because you know He cracks Jokes?

As much as people don't want to believe it...

I think he does do drugs, to this day. Nobody will listen. Not him, or any of us. Just a bunch of denial. So scary.

Does it really matter whether Prince did drugs yesterday today or tomorrow?

Using drugs is a personal choice and if he's making those choices, the only one he has to answer to is himself.

Although I hardly doubt he is a frequent user or addict. He seems to be too much of a control freak.

"Does it really matter whether Prince did drugs yesterday today or tomorrow?

Using drugs is a personal choice and if he's making those choices, the only one he has to answer to is himself.

Although I hardly doubt he is a frequent user or addict. He seems to be too much of a control freak."

Exactly. OooohhWeee! Prince used dope!

All these hypocrites are probably using drugs while using The Org!

Just make sure that you and yours don't use drugs.

DavidEye said:

Actually, Susan Roger's account of the incident in DMSR says that Prince's eyes were dilated, not red. Dilated pupils are a side effect of ecstasy, and the things Prince was allegedly saying that night certainly sound like someone rolling on E... so I believe that the ecstasy story is plausible.

Berry said:

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Prince mentioned drinking to much around the time Emancipation came out.

What makes you (Berry) think he is still a substance abuser.

hes a tweeker

oh and whats DMSR and where can i get it

Matt should give us a quick refresher course on the rules of evidence.

While I agree that, overall, it doesn't really matter if he did or didn't use drugs, I think it's unfair to suggest that he's no different than the countless other performers whose music was inspired by drug abuse, and whose careers and lives have been shortened by it.

I prefer to think of Prince's music as a pure expression of genius, rather than output which was chemically-induced. For me, it's like the added appreciation I feel for the high performance athlete who did not rely on steroids to win. His reliance on self also more closely models my own life, so naturally it's the version I prefer. For those that prefer the "Prince on drugs" persona, well that may better mirror your own experiences, not my own.

To borrow further from DMSR, Chick Huntsberry is quoted as follows: "I was on drugs, bad, but Prince never touched them. He was clean." It's likely that Chick spent more time around Prince than others mentioned in this thread.

If Prince did Drugs in the past well it's the past. If he's doing them now I hope not cause I don't want him to ruin his health. His music has always been wonderful that's for sure. I just want him to be alive for a long time,so I would hope he wasn't abusing himself. But if he says he isn't then who are we to say he is?

Berry said:

thats it. if you guys scroll up to the top you'd read my last post in which I made pretty clear what I have heard. its no silly rumours, its some musicians who DID the drugs WITH him. Its no secret in those circles, and its really no big deal thats why I have no problem with sharing this with you guys. as I said before, those incidents have happened in the early 80s. the musicians I am talking about are still working with P on occasion up to this day, but they did not see him doing it since the mid 80s. if he still does it is another matter...
I dont really think about this issue a lot and I really couldnt care less, I just find it simply naive and blind if somebody is worhsipping prince for being sooo clean and healthy. come on y'all, he was young and a rock n roll star and he had all the rights to experiment. I do not believe he will grow too old because he doesnt live healthy at all. he eats bad, he doesnt rest as much as he should, he does not follow any rhythm. I am pretty sure he quit his drug habit (if it ever was a true habit) because he wouldnt be able to keep up with that lifestyle

TheMax said:

and bill clinton said: "I did not have sexual intercourse with this woman."
come one, max, stop believing official statements from people who have something to lose.

I just want him to take care of himself. I think he does. We should all take care of ourselves so well. He looks Gorgeous. So I don't think he's abusing himself and as far as drug use. I'm sick of people trying to damn him in the fans eyes. You are jealous fucking idiots that aren't Prince,can't get girls, cars, a job on and on . You are Losers who wish they were Prince!

Anybody who wants to take POT Shots at Prince should DROP DEAD! Why don't you TRY TO DO WHAT HE DOES! Fuck Off and GET A LIFE!