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Thread started 03/21/06 12:57pm

pjcath

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Fury - Not even as good as Cinnamon Girl

Having never heard the SNL version, I have to say I think Fury leaves a lot to be desired. In my opinion it's the only truly weak track on the album. It has such a lacklustre feel. And if such a thing is possible I'd have to say I even prefer Cinnamon Girl to Fury.

The album on the whole though is terrific especially Lolita, the Word and 3121.
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Reply #1 posted 03/21/06 1:05pm

RodeoSchro

As of right now, I agree with you, but mainly because I had already seen the SNL performance. The "3121" version isn't nearly as guitar-heavy as the SNL performance, and seems to be the weaker for it.
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Reply #2 posted 03/21/06 1:15pm

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disbelief

there are songs on 3121 that might not be really good, i admit
but overall it's a cool album with solid songs, and where this
album leaves something to be desired, at least it doesn't make
me cringe even once.

musicology made me cringe multiple times start to end and that
said, "cinnamon girl" is one of the songs that makes me cringe
most. especially the 'chorus' is shudderingly teenage diary.

fury is a good solid song with some cool guitarwork and some
nice vocal workouts. the freshness and joyous vibe coming off
it makes it worth a dozen cinnamon girls imo.

but to each their own. the way i like fury is obviously the way
you guys like cinnamon girl. and that's cool. wouldn't be cool
if everyone liked and hated the same things.
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Reply #3 posted 03/21/06 1:17pm

pjcath

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IstenSzek said:

disbelief
the way i like fury is obviously the way
you guys like cinnamon girl. .


My problem is I don't like cinnamon girl.
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Reply #4 posted 03/21/06 1:18pm

IstenSzek

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pjcath said:

IstenSzek said:

disbelief
the way i like fury is obviously the way
you guys like cinnamon girl. .


My problem is I don't like cinnamon girl.


eek

I just noticed your line:

And if such a thing is possible I'd have to say I even prefer Cinnamon Girl to Fury

omg omg omg

no you didn't

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Reply #5 posted 03/21/06 1:21pm

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Are u all kidding? Fury punches Cinnamon Girl's chest in, rips out her heart and tosses it on the floor. Fury kicks ass. Cinnamon Girl doesnt have anywhere near the sheer explosiveness and attitude. Im shocked at u guys.
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Reply #6 posted 03/21/06 1:24pm

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pjcath said:

Having never heard the SNL version, I have to say I think Fury leaves a lot to be desired. In my opinion it's the only truly weak track on the album. It has such a lacklustre feel. And if such a thing is possible I'd have to say I even prefer Cinnamon Girl to Fury.

The album on the whole though is terrific especially Lolita, the Word and 3121.


Multiple listens will make this album version sound a WHOLE lot better.

Cinnamon Girl? Please...
Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours)
If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years)
Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night
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Reply #7 posted 03/21/06 1:25pm

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dreamfactory313 said:

Are u all kidding? Fury punches Cinnamon Girl's chest in, rips out her heart and tosses it on the floor. Fury kicks ass. Cinnamon Girl doesnt have anywhere near the sheer explosiveness and attitude. Im shocked at u guys.


How I wish I could agree! The synth line in Fury kind of reminds me of the way I do laps when I'm swimming: I get to the end of the pool and then I'm like, oh no, here I go again.

I've been listening a lot to the Gold era stuff recently and I think Fury basically lacks the band feel of kick ass tracks like Interactive. I'm assuming it sounded a whole lot better with a band playing it on SNL
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Reply #8 posted 03/21/06 1:31pm

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pjcath said:

dreamfactory313 said:

Are u all kidding? Fury punches Cinnamon Girl's chest in, rips out her heart and tosses it on the floor. Fury kicks ass. Cinnamon Girl doesnt have anywhere near the sheer explosiveness and attitude. Im shocked at u guys.


How I wish I could agree! The synth line in Fury kind of reminds me of the way I do laps when I'm swimming: I get to the end of the pool and then I'm like, oh no, here I go again.

I've been listening a lot to the Gold era stuff recently and I think Fury basically lacks the band feel of kick ass tracks like Interactive. I'm assuming it sounded a whole lot better with a band playing it on SNL

Prince was pure magic doing Fury on SNL. It does sound a little more subdued on the disc but its still a hot hot track. It certianly comes from the same family of rip roaring rock anthems like Interactive and I Like It There. Keep listening, maybe you'll be turned on!
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Reply #9 posted 03/21/06 1:33pm

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fury was better live, but even then... cinnamon girl sucks.
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Reply #10 posted 03/21/06 1:34pm

pjcath

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dreamfactory313 said:[quote]

pjcath said:


Keep listening, maybe you'll be turned on!



I think you might be right. There's a whole bunch of stuff I never use to like and now totally love. I didn't really like 'lovesexy' when I first heard it, which now seems unbelievable to me.
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Reply #11 posted 03/21/06 1:50pm

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I'm just speculating here... but perhaps it's under consideration (if not already selected) for release as a single. If so, I think Prince had to turn up the "pop" and turn down the "rock." Sure, the SNL performance was incredible, but a studio version like that would probably be too guitar-heavy for the radio stations that would be most interested in playing a new Prince song.
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Reply #12 posted 03/21/06 2:07pm

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pjcath said:

Having never heard the SNL version, I have to say I think Fury leaves a lot to be desired. In my opinion it's the only truly weak track on the album. It has such a lacklustre feel. And if such a thing is possible I'd have to say I even prefer Cinnamon Girl to Fury.

The album on the whole though is terrific especially Lolita, the Word and 3121.



Would u be sayin that had u never heard the live version?
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Reply #13 posted 03/21/06 2:38pm

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FURY is off the chain. So much so that everytime I type it, its always capitalized!

Oh and I like Cinnamon Girl too...

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Reply #14 posted 03/21/06 2:55pm

Rhastus

I like Fury(the album version has grown on me, but its still no where near as good as the SNL version) Cinamomon Girl is a decent song, but i would rate it below Fury
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Reply #15 posted 03/21/06 2:58pm

Ronny

Rhastus said:

I like Fury(the album version has grown on me, but its still no where near as good as the SNL version) Cinamomon Girl is a decent song, but i would rate it below Fury




It's so weak on the album...reminds me of how I felt when I heard the Endorphin Machine on the Gold Exp album....oh boy...

why would he do that to such an wicked track.
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Reply #16 posted 03/21/06 3:04pm

FunkyBrotha

you guys crack me up, fury is a great song! Along with "the word" probably the only classic prince track on the album
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Reply #17 posted 03/21/06 3:05pm

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Rhastus said:

I like Fury(the album version has grown on me, but its still no where near as good as the SNL version) Cinamomon Girl is a decent song, but i would rate it below Fury


They're my feelings exactly. loved the SNL version, was shocked at the album version (when it was leaked) but having the real CD really brings the song out more. It's definately a grower.

Not too bad at all. Way better than cinammon girl anyway.
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Reply #18 posted 03/21/06 3:11pm

tainacher

Really funny, i don't know the album-version of fury yet.
But i believe it is amazing, that a lot of people say that the SNL performance was guitar driven. That is untrue. It is really keyboard driven. Perhaps the guitars are lower in the album mix. but the guitars are not THAT strong in the live performance (exept the solos).

btw: cinnamon girl has an "ok" melody. But the mix is weird. And the keyboards don't got a great sound...
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Reply #19 posted 03/21/06 10:52pm

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Ronny said:

It's so weak on the album...reminds me of how I felt when I heard the Endorphin Machine on the Gold Exp album....oh boy...


I knew something was missing from the studio version of "Fury"....

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Reply #20 posted 03/21/06 10:58pm

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Reply #21 posted 03/21/06 11:01pm

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I'd say if you don't think it's that great, that's fine. Don't force yourself into liking something just because it's Prince. Yeah, it may not sound good, but spin it, beat yourself over the head with it another 50 times, it'll at least become familair then. rolleyes
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Reply #22 posted 03/21/06 11:48pm

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matt said:

Ronny said:

It's so weak on the album...reminds me of how I felt when I heard the Endorphin Machine on the Gold Exp album....oh boy...


I knew something was missing from the studio version of "Fury"....

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Reply #23 posted 03/22/06 1:09am

CCCP

dreamfactory313 said:

Are u all kidding? Fury punches Cinnamon Girl's chest in, rips out her heart and tosses it on the floor. Fury kicks ass. Cinnamon Girl doesnt have anywhere near the sheer explosiveness and attitude. Im shocked at u guys.


I Agree with u lol
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Reply #24 posted 03/22/06 1:38am

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The production of Fury is so dated (in a bad way) that it is really showing Prince up.

Cinnamon Girl all the way. Such a good beat and bass line.
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Reply #25 posted 03/22/06 1:45am

murph

pjcath said:

Having never heard the SNL version, I have to say I think Fury leaves a lot to be desired. In my opinion it's the only truly weak track on the album. It has such a lacklustre feel. And if such a thing is possible I'd have to say I even prefer Cinnamon Girl to Fury.

The album on the whole though is terrific especially Lolita, the Word and 3121.



Listen to the live version and get back to me....Cool?

Sheesh....
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Reply #26 posted 03/22/06 2:49am

Chasing

That is tehmost joke post I ahve ever seen.

Fury is far and away a better track, and like I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man, on this CD, perfect rock pop!

Idiotic post to say Cinnamon Girl is better - that is very weak pop in comparison!

DOh.

You are just trying to be clever, and it don't work!
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Reply #27 posted 03/22/06 2:56am

CrozzaUK

Fury is just yet another in a list of prince rock songs that sounds worse on record when compared to live versions.

Bambi
The Cross
Electric Chair
Joy In Repetition
Love Thy Will Be Done
Endorphinmachine
Dolphin

If id ever seen him perform So Far So Pleased or Cinamon Girl live, id probably think they were better songs, and that the studio versions sucked ass too (as it is, i just think they're pretty weak songs).

I think the problem of prince doing rock in the studio is that theres a temptation to either underplay it (bambi, Fury, the Cross), or over do it (Endorphin Machine). Another thing you probably should remember is that when prince has and audience in front of him, he's buzzing - is completely alive - and this will affect his performance. Maybe he just cant muster that energy alone in a studio. I do think he should have seen sense to record it with a complete band though.

Also, Fury shits all over Cinamon Girl. I haven't been so instantly taken by a prince song since i heard I Love U But I Cant Trust U.
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Reply #28 posted 03/22/06 2:56am

MartyMcFly

Chasing said:

That is tehmost joke post I ahve ever seen.

Fury is far and away a better track, and like I Could Never Take The Place of Your Man, on this CD, perfect rock pop!

Idiotic post to say Cinnamon Girl is better - that is very weak pop in comparison!

DOh.

You are just trying to be clever, and it don't work!



Comparing "Fury" to "ICNTTPOYM" is kinda silly no?

It sounds like "Damned If I Do Pt. II" to me... IMHO it's one of the weaker songs on the 3121 album... neutral
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Reply #29 posted 03/22/06 3:05am

CCCP

Fury is not weak on 3121.It's just not that mutch guitar in it, but it still works.But I like the SNL per4mance mutch better. cool
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