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no doubt i'll like it like i like most of his stuff but if the guy has lost his shine someone might wanna tell him to quit it b4 he gets fat and starts doin Vegas. " the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below. | |
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Such is the nature of the beast that is popculture.
Look at any established artist, like B.B.King or Bob Dylan, or anyone for that matter, no one says "did you hear their new album?", the buzz passes away in such that it is drowned out by the next, new, big, up and comming thing. Prince is that ageing established musican. He has become an entity. You can read all about it this theory in my book, "Things you should have figured out by now" available from me personally. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: Such is the nature of the beast that is popculture.
Send me a copy. And bookmark the passage about Prince...or just make a note of the chapter and verse. Thanks.Look at any established artist, like B.B.King or Bob Dylan, or anyone for that matter, no one says "did you hear their new album?", the buzz passes away in such that it is drowned out by the next, new, big, up and comming thing. Prince is that ageing established musican. He has become an entity. You can read all about it this theory in my book, "Things you should have figured out by now" available from me personally. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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anon said: MickG said: Such is the nature of the beast that is popculture.
Send me a copy. And bookmark the passage about Prince...or just make a note of the chapter and verse. Thanks.Look at any established artist, like B.B.King or Bob Dylan, or anyone for that matter, no one says "did you hear their new album?", the buzz passes away in such that it is drowned out by the next, new, big, up and comming thing. Prince is that ageing established musican. He has become an entity. You can read all about it this theory in my book, "Things you should have figured out by now" available from me personally. You really aren't that sharp are you? You seem obsessed with believing your personal oppion is the shared reality. Maybe you can't read? However of the pure chance that I did not clearly speak I will explain. The Theory of the entity and established persona is in my new book. Nothing about Prince. Besides, you couldn't afford a copy anyway. News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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MickG said: anon said: Send me a copy. And bookmark the passage about Prince...or just make a note of the chapter and verse. Thanks.
You really aren't that sharp are you? You seem obsessed with believing your personal oppion is the shared reality. Maybe you can't read? However of the pure chance that I did not clearly speak I will explain. The Theory of the entity and established persona is in my new book. Nothing about Prince. Besides, you couldn't afford a copy anyway. I should have said "bookmark the part about 'Prince' (the entity)" ...and Jesus I don't believe my "oppion" is a shared reality. I don't think I even have an oppion. And about being sharp. No I'm not that sharp....only as sharp as you are incoherent. Why do you like playing around with my narrow scope of reality? - Stupify | |
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Relevant? What is relevant to the "relevant" is irrelevant to the real relevant and the irrelevant is actually relevant. Is this relevant? | |
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skywalker said: A few things:
"The general feel i get from reading the journalistic comments and reviews about Prince and his new record 3121 is.." This statement suggests that you let others opinions decide how you feel about and view things (prince in this case). "Especially from Around the world in a day unto Lovesexy he was THE artist of the postmodern era." In the states, this era was one of commercial decline for Prince. Despite what they say now, critics at the time were just as mixed in their reviews of his albums as they are now. They only agreed that he was brilliant onstage. This era is now looked upon with purple tinted glasses, but at the time, people felt different about Prince. The general public did not view him in the glowing terms you suggest. Critics often did not. "Musicology for me was a mediocre record, but at least a Prince trying to get sane again.." Funny, you herald Prince for getting "sane", yet you dig the years 1985-88. Those years are arguably Prince at his most "insane". The wardrobe for Lovesexy alone is evidence towards this. "some tracks even thrill me in a certain way" "i dont feel the need to defend this guy in any way" "i just take his music for what it is" "... but the real love is over... I guess i am growing older, I guess there is so much more music to enjoy...I guess its a waste of time to put that much effort into you....." See a pattern here? Your comments speak a lot more about what's going on with YOU than the ACTUAL quality of Prince's music. Why do U have to question someones opinion, this is how he/she feels, let it be, they aren't sayying this is how we all should feel, it just how they do... I for one respect him/her for doing so, because i couldn't make such a thread on how im going off prince, the fan base will just rip me to pieces, all i can say on the matter, is hope U enjoy music to come, peace N B wild! Keenmeister |
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"Prince isnt bad, but not really relevant anymore: face it"
3121, welcome to The Hef Years... 
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anon said: No I'm not that sharp....only as sharp as you are incoherent.
You speak the truth. You are only as sharp as I am incoherent, because to the elect fue and several others I am very coherent.  [Edited 3/19/06 15:27pm] News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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skywalker said: A few things:
"The general feel i get from reading the journalistic comments and reviews about Prince and his new record 3121 is.." This statement suggests that you let others opinions decide how you feel about and view things (prince in this case). "Especially from Around the world in a day unto Lovesexy he was THE artist of the postmodern era." In the states, this era was one of commercial decline for Prince. Despite what they say now, critics at the time were just as mixed in their reviews of his albums as they are now. They only agreed that he was brilliant onstage. This era is now looked upon with purple tinted glasses, but at the time, people felt different about Prince. The general public did not view him in the glowing terms you suggest. Critics often did not. "Musicology for me was a mediocre record, but at least a Prince trying to get sane again.." Funny, you herald Prince for getting "sane", yet you dig the years 1985-88. Those years are arguably Prince at his most "insane". The wardrobe for Lovesexy alone is evidence towards this. "some tracks even thrill me in a certain way" "i dont feel the need to defend this guy in any way" "i just take his music for what it is" "... but the real love is over... I guess i am growing older, I guess there is so much more music to enjoy...I guess its a waste of time to put that much effort into you....." See a pattern here? Your comments speak a lot more about what's going on with YOU than the ACTUAL quality of Prince's music.  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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My reactions:
- I dont follow journalists in general, i only said i agree with most of the reviews i read about 3121, they express often how i am feeling about this new cd. - In europe people and critics were seeing what Prince was 'doing' in that period: I mean, Purple Rain, somehow reflects the the american dream: a young, black musician getting succesfull with the mainstream, nothing new in there, it was exactly on records like around the world in a day, parade, lovesexy that he reflected the postmodernic times we lived in around then: combining bitter testimonial seriousness with airy humor, pretentions with nihilism, making artrock sound as Abba... that was exactly what that times were about, breaking free of 'moral' codes and rules, treathing everything as 'relative'... Whether or not purposely, between 1985 and 1988 Prince was reflecting his times perfectly, and therefore creating 'art' in my opinion. - Everyone turning themselve to a extreme form of religion, in Princes case JW, are insane in my opinion. Its a personal view, maybe a valid view (isnt the world a battefield nowadays for extreme muslims and extreme christians / capitalists, both dumb as hell?), and yes: maybe Prince is showing a bit of sanity on musicology compared to terror on the rainbow children. - I know, i am not really a BIG Prince fan anymore, that doesnt mean i dont enjoying listening to 3121 for a while, that doesnt mean i dont enjoy listening to his back catalogue know and then, BUT, it also doesnt mean i dont have a ear for the quality of Princes music: I mean, i would consider 3121 a nice, consice 'funkpoppy' effort, but a) it lacks musical quality compared to most of his eighties output b) it doesnt reflect the times as his late-eighties output was, and is therefore missing something 'extra', something that turns a cd into a masterpiece c) It doesnt create the buzz, the vibe, the magic....whatever you may call it... that earlier cd's did, and thats also an important element of popular music, time- and societydefining music has a quality thats hard to lay a finger on, it might be in the lyrics, in the vision expressed, it might be the right tune at the right time...3121 is not a bad record (right now i am thinking about 7 / 10), but it carries music that just ISNT too relevant anymore nowadays. | |
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Riverpoet31 said: My reactions:
- I dont follow journalists in general, i only said i agree with most of the reviews i read about 3121, they express often how i am feeling about this new cd. - In europe people and critics were seeing what Prince was 'doing' in that period: I mean, Purple Rain, somehow reflects the the american dream: a young, black musician getting succesfull with the mainstream, nothing new in there, it was exactly on records like around the world in a day, parade, lovesexy that he reflected the postmodernic times we lived in around then: combining bitter testimonial seriousness with airy humor, pretentions with nihilism, making artrock sound as Abba... that was exactly what that times were about, breaking free of 'moral' codes and rules, treathing everything as 'relative'... Whether or not purposely, between 1985 and 1988 Prince was reflecting his times perfectly, and therefore creating 'art' in my opinion. - Everyone turning themselve to a extreme form of religion, in Princes case JW, are insane in my opinion. Its a personal view, maybe a valid view (isnt the world a battefield nowadays for extreme muslims and extreme christians / capitalists, both dumb as hell?), and yes: maybe Prince is showing a bit of sanity on musicology compared to terror on the rainbow children. - I know, i am not really a BIG Prince fan anymore, that doesnt mean i dont enjoying listening to 3121 for a while, that doesnt mean i dont enjoy listening to his back catalogue know and then, BUT, it also doesnt mean i dont have a ear for the quality of Princes music: I mean, i would consider 3121 a nice, consice 'funkpoppy' effort, but a) it lacks musical quality compared to most of his eighties output b) it doesnt reflect the times as his late-eighties output was, and is therefore missing something 'extra', something that turns a cd into a masterpiece c) It doesnt create the buzz, the vibe, the magic....whatever you may call it... that earlier cd's did, and thats also an important element of popular music, time- and societydefining music has a quality thats hard to lay a finger on, it might be in the lyrics, in the vision expressed, it might be the right tune at the right time...3121 is not a bad record (right now i am thinking about 7 / 10), but it carries music that just ISNT too relevant anymore nowadays. Makes perfect sense. | |
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