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shortcake

Vanity...........STRANGE BUT TRUE!

On June 25 prince website posted a message about the song "STRANGE BUT TRUE"...being just that STRANGE BUT TRUE. Well in that particular song Prince talk about a certain woman who's the only one he gave his heart to. She's the one he fantasizes about. He says that he's trying to fill the hole that was left by her with "another". Who is this woman Prince is talking about?...Strange as it may seem, I think he is talking about VANITY...Could it be VANITY?
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Reply #1 posted 07/13/02 8:11pm

sojourner

I used to dream about Vanity too .Appolonia also.
I think prince likes it to have taller women as he is. Can't blame him. Maybe one of the 'get off'sisters also nice..
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Reply #2 posted 07/13/02 9:59pm

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shortcake said:

On June 25 prince website posted a message about the song "STRANGE BUT TRUE"...being just that STRANGE BUT TRUE. Well in that particular song Prince talk about a certain woman who's the only one he gave his heart to. She's the one he fantasizes about. He says that he's trying to fill the hole that was left by her with "another". Who is this woman Prince is talking about?...Strange as it may seem, I think he is talking about VANITY...Could it be VANITY?


Well, I don't think so...
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Reply #3 posted 07/13/02 9:59pm

shortcake

Prince and Vanity together again!...STRANGE BUT TRUE!
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Reply #4 posted 07/13/02 10:01pm

shortcake

rightbluecheek said:

shortcake said:

On June 25 prince website posted a message about the song "STRANGE BUT TRUE"...being just that STRANGE BUT TRUE. Well in that particular song Prince talk about a certain woman who's the only one he gave his heart to. She's the one he fantasizes about. He says that he's trying to fill the hole that was left by her with "another". Who is this woman Prince is talking about?...Strange as it may seem, I think he is talking about VANITY...Could it be VANITY?


Well, I don't think so...


Why not VANITY?
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Reply #5 posted 07/14/02 12:30am

soulsplash

I think it's another song about Warner Bros written to sound like a love song about a woman of his past.

For years I thought The Beautiful Ones was about Vanity -- to later find out it was about Susannah. I've ALWAYS liked Vanity -- even to this day. I wonder what Prince songs ARE about her? Vanity's Wild Animal album has at least two songs about him.
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Reply #6 posted 07/14/02 12:33am

Abrazo

Dude...

Why WOULD it be Vanity?

you come up with some song lyrics and the conclusion that they are about Vanity, but you don't say yourself why you think it is about her.

So why would it be about her?
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Reply #7 posted 07/14/02 12:48am

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Don't you think it'd be Mayte?
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Reply #8 posted 07/14/02 2:26am

shortcake

Abrazo said:

Dude...

Why WOULD it be Vanity?

you come up with some song lyrics and the conclusion that they are about Vanity, but you don't say yourself why you think it is about her.

So why would it be about her?


When Vanity left Prince she took a piece of his heart with her. When Vanity married in 95. It shook Prince's world. Check the lyrics to "Dionne" from the Truth CD. The next thing you know Prince marries Mayte about a year later.

I think Vanity has been a great influence in Prince's life. Today she's an evangelist. I believe she is one of the main reasons Prince has embraced religion/spirtuality.

At the time Prince emancipation CD came out, Vanity made a statement about she was worried about Prince's spirit. During that same time frame Prince did an interview stating that he thought that he would marry Vanity. In the interview he talked about how he and Vanity are in the same place "spirtually". He went out of his way to express that he was okay. In the interview Prince came across as if he was hurting for Vanity...by the way I'm not a dude.
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Reply #9 posted 07/14/02 2:49am

Starmist7

Who knows...some people fall in and out of love so many times that it becomes so hard to follow which hole is trying to be filled by who.
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Reply #10 posted 07/14/02 3:23am

CocoSweet

Vanity? Really? I always thought that he was singing about God.
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Reply #11 posted 07/14/02 3:51am

lemoncrush

I thought it was about Kim Basinger biggrin
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Reply #12 posted 07/14/02 4:37am

Vagina

I believe the love of Prince's life was and always will be Vanity. He always called her his Nasty. In the song the Dark he says don't quote me though oh my Nasty why'd you have to go ? Henceforth I think Mani represents Vanity. She is the new Clean version of Vanity. He wants a woman that looks like Denise MATThews his #1 love. It is her. I am so mad at her for leaving him for Motown and Nikki SIXX. DumbASS! DumbAss! If they stayed together and she wasn't strung out at the time everything would have been different. Not so much Guilt and thinking something his fault. Nothing is his fault! People have their own minds and should use them! People should stop calling him a control freak! It sounds sinister. I think he is disappointed that Carmen and Mayte didn't really amount to anything more than just a piece of ASS! I think he does indeed need a smart,clean woman to stimulate his mind and be a good wife and mother for him. I think you are right he just wants to settle down already and be a family man. He's already done the wild stuff and it get's old and boring after awhile. But although he may be bored we never will be so give us what we want Prince. I'm begging you! Prince is the Best nobody is better than him.
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Reply #13 posted 07/14/02 5:33am

shortcake

Vagina said:

I believe the love of Prince's life was and always will be Vanity. He always called her his Nasty. In the song the Dark he says don't quote me though oh my Nasty why'd you have to go ? Henceforth I think Mani represents Vanity. She is the new Clean version of Vanity. He wants a woman that looks like Denise MATThews his #1 love. It is her. I am so mad at her for leaving him for Motown and Nikki SIXX. DumbASS! DumbAss! If they stayed together and she wasn't strung out at the time everything would have been different. Not so much Guilt and thinking something his fault. Nothing is his fault! People have their own minds and should use them! People should stop calling him a control freak! It sounds sinister. I think he is disappointed that Carmen and Mayte didn't really amount to anything more than just a piece of ASS! I think he does indeed need a smart,clean woman to stimulate his mind and be a good wife and mother for him. I think you are right he just wants to settle down already and be a family man. He's already done the wild stuff and it get's old and boring after awhile. But although he may be bored we never will be so give us what we want Prince. I'm begging you! Prince is the Best nobody is better than him.



Hey Vagina, I agree with you!
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Reply #14 posted 07/14/02 5:56am

Vagina

teriffic Shortcake I'm glad you agree. I wish more people saw things my way.
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Reply #15 posted 07/14/02 6:05am

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shortcake said:

rightbluecheek said:

shortcake said:

On June 25 prince website posted a message about the song "STRANGE BUT TRUE"...being just that STRANGE BUT TRUE. Well in that particular song Prince talk about a certain woman who's the only one he gave his heart to. She's the one he fantasizes about. He says that he's trying to fill the hole that was left by her with "another". Who is this woman Prince is talking about?...Strange as it may seem, I think he is talking about VANITY...Could it be VANITY?


Well, I don't think so...


Why not VANITY?


If it is about a real ex then it has to be about Susannah. He wrote more songs about her than anyone else. Beautiful Ones, Purple Rain, and many other songs at the time are about her. She really screwed him up.
Remember Prince wanted to get married to her but she didn't. Just about every love song in the 80's is about her. There is NO WAY that it is about Vanity OR anyone else. Remember: Vanity had a HUGE cocaine problem and Prince hated her for that.
"So strange that no one stayed at the end of the Parade..." - Wendy & Lisa's "Song About" on their 1987 self-titled album.
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Reply #16 posted 07/14/02 6:05am

soulsplash

But why did he turn his attention away from Vanity and concentrate on Susannah? Or did he think he could somehow have both? I'd like to think that Vanity was the love of his life, but it's hard to believe he could so easily be distracted by other "loves" as well. It's too bad they're not better friends than they are now. I really think that SHE could be a good influence on him... strange but true.
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Reply #17 posted 07/14/02 6:15am

Batdance

I don't think that Vanity was the love of Prince's life. If he loved her, why would he not do anything for her when she was sick and nearly dying?

When a man loves a woman, he would not stand there and do nothing while the woman he loves falls down so low that she can't pick herself up. If Denise Matthews was really Prince's true love, he would have done something for her and not let their relationship break down in a dispute over money.

If Prince had loved Vanity, he would have been there when she needed someone to love and care for her. He let her fall into the gutter. That should tell you that he did not really love her.

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Reply #18 posted 07/14/02 6:22am

Starmist7

I don't know what was up in Prince's mind or in his heart, but I do agree that in regards to what was said above, that no matter what, if you truly love and care for a person, or believe that that a person is your soulmate, you will be there for them no matter what, even if you're not with that person.
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Reply #19 posted 07/14/02 7:26am

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Starmist7 said:

I don't know what was up in Prince's mind or in his heart, but I do agree that in regards to what was said above, that no matter what, if you truly love and care for a person, or believe that that a person is your soulmate, you will be there for them no matter what, even if you're not with that person.


true true ... but we all know Prince isn’t immune 2 dependency!! So perhaps running from vanity helped him flee disintegration ... the kind of love that blossoms so much as 2 consume someone can be very dangerous ...

What happens if helping someone could kill u ... can u live on with air from the last breath that didn’t come from u ... would u let your soul be drained by someone, the act so powerful leaving u virtually hollow with nothing left 2 do, what was u is through ... so I ask who plays the fool ... that which is strange or that which is true? wink hehe crazy me ... lalala sorry i need a drink ... or perhaps i should stay off it ... smile
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Reply #20 posted 07/14/02 7:50am

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chookalana said:

shortcake said:

rightbluecheek said:

shortcake said:

On June 25 prince website posted a message about the song "STRANGE BUT TRUE"...being just that STRANGE BUT TRUE. Well in that particular song Prince talk about a certain woman who's the only one he gave his heart to. She's the one he fantasizes about. He says that he's trying to fill the hole that was left by her with "another". Who is this woman Prince is talking about?...Strange as it may seem, I think he is talking about VANITY...Could it be VANITY?


Well, I don't think so...


Why not VANITY?


If it is about a real ex then it has to be about Susannah. He wrote more songs about her than anyone else. Beautiful Ones, Purple Rain, and many other songs at the time are about her. She really screwed him up.
Remember Prince wanted to get married to her but she didn't. Just about every love song in the 80's is about her. There is NO WAY that it is about Vanity OR anyone else. Remember: Vanity had a HUGE cocaine problem and Prince hated her for that.


Prince broke up with Susannah. Vanity did not fall deep into drugs until after she left Prince. Prince did not hate Vanity. Vanity means more to Prince then most people even know.
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Reply #21 posted 07/14/02 7:56am

Vagina

First and foremost where do you get your facts that the Beautiful Ones was written for Susannah. No way. It was written for the movie and Vanity was the original star besides Prince. And Susannah came afterward. Shelia was around in the Purple Rain days along with Appolonia. Rumors were always there that Prince liked the girls to fight over him that he liked I guess a Competition thing. Carmen also Mayte at the same time working with him. Is it a Battle of the sexes. Who will beat who. Who is tougher, stronger, more Powerful... Robin! Then there's Jill Jones and Taja Seville. So many people on the Paisley Park label but only 1 Prince. The Star! No I don't care what you say Vanity was and always will be the one that should have been with Prince till death do them part. They were absolutely perfect looking together. Denise was Hot look at Rolling Stone with Prince and her on the cover and look at her Pretty Mess single . She was the Wild Animal. Susannah although very pretty didn't have much flair. No OOmph just look at Girls and Boys. She can't dance . Pretty woman doesn't move. Ever see those Blond Hollywood Silicon Bunnies? They don't move. My God the men must go crazy. All sexy and they just lay there fake Tits and all. Shit!
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Reply #22 posted 07/14/02 8:02am

shortcake

Batdance said:

I don't think that Vanity was the love of Prince's life. If he loved her, why would he not do anything for her when she was sick and nearly dying?

When a man loves a woman, he would not stand there and do nothing while the woman he loves falls down so low that she can't pick herself up. If Denise Matthews was really Prince's true love, he would have done something for her and not let their relationship break down in a dispute over money.

If Prince had loved Vanity, he would have been there when she needed someone to love and care for her. He let her fall into the gutter. That should tell you that he did not really love her.

fro


Prince, as many other people, did not know that Vanity was so deep into drugs. When Vanity was hospitalized, he did one of the most important things that you can do when a person is in a terrible situation. He prayed for her for a whole day. He sent her flowers, all purple roses with one white rose.(symbolizing she's the only one) and also a picture of himself.
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Reply #23 posted 07/14/02 8:11am

shortcake

Vagina said:

First and foremost where do you get your facts that the Beautiful Ones was written for Susannah. No way. It was written for the movie and Vanity was the original star besides Prince. And Susannah came afterward. Shelia was around in the Purple Rain days along with Appolonia. Rumors were always there that Prince liked the girls to fight over him that he liked I guess a Competition thing. Carmen also Mayte at the same time working with him. Is it a Battle of the sexes. Who will beat who. Who is tougher, stronger, more Powerful... Robin! Then there's Jill Jones and Taja Seville. So many people on the Paisley Park label but only 1 Prince. The Star! No I don't care what you say Vanity was and always will be the one that should have been with Prince till death do them part. They were absolutely perfect looking together. Denise was Hot look at Rolling Stone with Prince and her on the cover and look at her Pretty Mess single . She was the Wild Animal. Susannah although very pretty didn't have much flair. No OOmph just look at Girls and Boys. She can't dance . Pretty woman doesn't move. Ever see those Blond Hollywood Silicon Bunnies? They don't move. My God the men must go crazy. All sexy and they just lay there fake Tits and all. Shit!


Vagina, your too much! I agree with you totally!
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Reply #24 posted 07/14/02 8:12am

Vagina

shortcake said:

Batdance said:

I don't think that Vanity was the love of Prince's life. If he loved her, why would he not do anything for her when she was sick and nearly dying?

When a man loves a woman, he would not stand there and do nothing while the woman he loves falls down so low that she can't pick herself up. If Denise Matthews was really Prince's true love, he would have done something for her and not let their relationship break down in a dispute over money.

If Prince had loved Vanity, he would have been there when she needed someone to love and care for her. He let her fall into the gutter. That should tell you that he did not really love her.

fro


Prince, as many other people, did not know that Vanity was so deep into drugs. When Vanity was hospitalized, he did one of the most important things that you can do when a person is in a terrible situation. He prayed for her for a whole day. He sent her flowers, all purple roses with one white rose.(symbolizing she's the only one) and also a picture of himself.
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Reply #25 posted 07/14/02 8:14am

Vagina

Vagina said:

shortcake said:

Batdance said:

I don't think that Vanity was the love of Prince's life. If he loved her, why would he not do anything for her when she was sick and nearly dying?

When a man loves a woman, he would not stand there and do nothing while the woman he loves falls down so low that she can't pick herself up. If Denise Matthews was really Prince's true love, he would have done something for her and not let their relationship break down in a dispute over money.

If Prince had loved Vanity, he would have been there when she needed someone to love and care for her. He let her fall into the gutter. That should tell you that he did not really love her.

fro


Prince, as many other people, did not know that Vanity was so deep into drugs. When Vanity was hospitalized, he did one of the most important things that you can do when a person is in a terrible situation. He prayed for her for a whole day. He sent her flowers, all purple roses with one white rose.(symbolizing she's the only one) and also a picture of himself.
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Reply #26 posted 07/14/02 8:15am

Vagina

Where is Denise today? Is she o.k.? What are her ministries called?
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Reply #27 posted 07/14/02 8:21am

shortcake

Vagina said:

Where is Denise today? Is she o.k.? What are her ministries called?


She lives in Fremont, CA. She had a successful kidney operation a few years back. As far as I know she is okay. Check out her website at www.denisematthews.com.
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Reply #28 posted 07/14/02 8:30am

Vagina

Thank you Shortcake. God Bless!
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Reply #29 posted 07/14/02 8:54am

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She lives in Fremont, CA


Whoa, Jesus! That's MY town! I wonder if I ran into her at Safeway at one time or another...
I mean, like, where is the sun?
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