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Thread started 07/12/02 2:13am

Cornerman

NPGMC E-mail "Let's Get Deep"

1.) Did u get a small case of “post-Celebration blues” when the event ended — and Y?

Doesn't apply, because I'm out of that ECONOMIC jurisdiction.

2.) Y do people of all backgrounds get along at Paisley Park, and not elsewhere?

'Not elsewhere'? Where is that now? I don't know a single person who DOESN'T have a different background than me, and I get along with people everyday.

3.) In actuality, what r BORDERS? And y r they erased when the Funk drops?

What kind of a question is that from a person who opposes NATO? What are borders? Let's find out when my friends an I decide to camp out on the lawn of Pasiley instead of getting a hotel?

4.) The Celebration proved that people from various backgrounds can party 2gether — but will we ever b able 2 worship in Truth 2gether?

Who's truth? The govenment? The hedgemon? The European Union? Pepsi Co.? To whose version of 'Truth' does this apply?

5.) Many say that one’s own relationship with God is a “personal thing.” That being said, how would that work next 2: “A family that prays 2gether stays 2gether.”? Just how big is r human family?

A family that 'prays together stays together' because religious repression forces a person to refuse to vary from the norm, for there will be reprocussion when that person violates the percieved 'law' and or 'truth'. Father might bring down the 'wrath of God" with his .45 if little Suzy doesn't use the lords name the way the bible tells us. What a horrible little hussy she is!! "This family will stay together if I have to KILL you all!! Till DEATH do us part, honey, that's what it said! DO YOU HEAR ME!!"

6.) 2 say “Amen” at the end of a prayer simply means that u agree with the prayer. If someone had closed the Celebration in prayer, would u have bowed ur head and simply made up ur own prayer in ur mind?

what? Amen.

7.) What point is there 2 pray 2 different Gods if there is only one?

Fuck you! Whats the point of buying Prince albums when he's a little lame gay self-ritchous midget? (Putting the answer IN the question is the oldest Psych tecnique in the book, jack ME off!)

8.) We hear talk of separation of God and State… State of What? Mind? R the efforts made by certain members of society 2 remove God from State a sign of progress or regress?

First of all lets hear you say the Pledge? Oh... wait... that's right... it's against your RELIGION! Secondly the phrase is "Church and State" and if you don't like it move to a different country! (Your a good CAPITALIST you can afford it!)

9.) Y have all of mankind’s attempts at creating UTOPIA 4 itself failed so far?

Because people refuse education and take religion as the answer to their problems, cause it's easier to have FAITH then it is to have KNOWLEDGE!

10.) How can r society eliminate XENOPHOBIA?

My gut tells me that you cannot truly define that word. How's this: "The immagrants are just this governments scapegoats", the real problem is big business. (which = the religious right) "Xenophobia Kills!"

11.) 7 days of music, peace, and love — and then back 2 the “real world”… How real is the “real world”?
What is the difference between AGREEMENT and HARMONY?


"TEACHER? WHY WON'T JIMMY PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE?"
[This message was edited Fri Jul 12 2:15:15 PDT 2002 by Cornerman]
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Reply #1 posted 07/12/02 2:22am

garganta

wow, you sound a little pissed off, dont you??
Well, the truth is that all this religious nonsense is getting a little too far lately.

Prince , for the love of YOUR God, come to your senses already !!
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Reply #2 posted 07/12/02 2:24am

BloodyMouth

I'm cross-posting, but what the fuck..

I'm not going to waste more time than i need to on this.. but I couldn't resist answering two of the questions:

9. Y have all of mankind’s attempts at creating UTOPIA 4 itself failed so far?

A: Religion

10.How can r society eliminate XENOPHOBIA?

A: Eliminate religions that proclaim their God to be the one true God.
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Reply #3 posted 07/12/02 2:44am

PurpleHouse

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BloodyMouth said:

I'm cross-posting, but what the fuck..

I'm not going to waste more time than i need to on this.. but I couldn't resist answering two of the questions:

9. Y have all of mankind’s attempts at creating UTOPIA 4 itself failed so far?

A: Religion

10.How can r society eliminate XENOPHOBIA?

A: Eliminate religions that proclaim their God to be the one true God.


Mmmm well all I can say is that if there is an all seeing God, why did He send down three messengers (Moses, Jesus and Mohammad), all saying different things and confuse the hell out of everyone??

If God is all seeing.. did he not forsee that sending down three messengers would b the cause of 90% of all wars, and will probably wipe out the human race.. as now we all have nuclear arms pointing at eachother?
The Tao te Ching gives advice to rulers:

"Interfere Less".
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Reply #4 posted 07/12/02 2:56am

PurpleHouse

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Just to add.. Im refering to Pakistan and India in particular.. who hate eachother so much over religious differences.. and who have each recently spent millions attaining nuclear arms when their countries r so poor. Why buy or make them if u aint gonna use them??

U got the middle east crisis going down too.. I think the Twin Towers is the beginning of the end..

The confusion, the hatred, misguidance, the lack of knowledge, education has just gone too far and reached too many ppl.

The boundries which Prince speaks of do need to be removed.. and that includes religion. Its clear we dont want to get on as one, and it is religion that divides us..

Jews and Muslims, Muslims and Hindus, Protestants and Catholics, the list goes on..

I think its just a matter of time now.
The Tao te Ching gives advice to rulers:

"Interfere Less".
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Reply #5 posted 07/12/02 3:00am

tiger2

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NPGMC TAKE NOTE:

your questions are the worst type of lazy nothingness. talk about simple-minded! "why can't people get along in the real world?" "why have all our attempts to build a UTOPIA failed?"

what vague, broad, inane questions. this is tripe, it's difficult to know where to begin in responding to this post, because it's a whole lot of nothing you've given us to hang a response on.

as for the pointed questions about god... yeesh. where do you get off on this? what do you want out of people, prince? play your guitar, sing us a song, move us and thrill us and make us dance and clap and sing along, inspire us to make our own music and art... but don't try to control us. don't try to tell us what to do, it makes no sense, in addition to being a losing game.

what do you want? to start up a "princetown" full of accepting, unquestioning converts to the cause? what is all this? i mean, WHAT?

good lord, this stuff is awful. i despair.

(NB: you are free to post any or all of the above at NPGMC, provided the context remains untampered with. but somehow- don't ask me how, maybe i've a highly pronounced intuition about such things- i don't think you'll be taking me up on the offer since you seem only to post the answers that flatter your stupid questions with so-called "positive" responses. i don't know quite who runs this branch of the prince empire, but let me say categorically, it is moronic. and if it's sanctioned by prince himself, it is still moronic. "intelligent people can do stupid things," said david byrne, or words very much to that effect.)
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Reply #6 posted 07/12/02 3:02am

Moonbeam

Did you send these in, Cornerman? I hope you did, and I hope Prince reads them unedited! He needs diverse input! I congratulate you for your honesty and bravery!
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Reply #7 posted 07/12/02 3:05am

talk2thejay

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Moonbeam said:

Did you send these in, Cornerman? I hope you did, and I hope Prince reads them unedited! He needs diverse input! I congratulate you for your honesty and bravery!


eye agree, unfortunately:

NPGMC will only upload positive feedback, there4 Prince will not even get a chance 2 read it.....
[This message was edited Fri Jul 12 3:47:43 PDT 2002 by talk2thejay]
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Reply #8 posted 07/12/02 3:50am

TweetyV6

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Moonbeam said:

Did you send these in, Cornerman? I hope you did, and I hope Prince reads them unedited! He needs diverse input! I congratulate you for your honesty and bravery!


I hope he did (so did I) and I also hope that PP only receives these kind of answers. Then they (he ?) finally realise that this religeous crap isn't getting him anywhere except more far away from his fans.

If there is "a god" the why would he allow us humans 2 destroy his "creation" within no time ?
The man of science has learned to believe in justification, not by faith, but by verification - Thomas Henry Huxley
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Reply #9 posted 07/12/02 4:07am

Aerogram

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1.) Did u get a small case of “post-Celebration blues” when the event ended — and Y?

No. I was happy that some of the regulars got back to the Org. Not that I got the blues when people were away... I got "the bores".

2.) Y do people of all backgrounds get along at Paisley Park, and not elsewhere?

Because they could spend the xtra energy flirting?

3.) In actuality, what r BORDERS? And y r they erased when the Funk drops?

They are called "boundaries", not "borders"... and the answer is "cuz no one wanted to be kicked out of the Park by security".

4.) The Celebration proved that people from various backgrounds can party 2gether — but will we ever b able 2 worship in Truth 2gether?

Because not everyone holds the same "Truth" to be self-evident?

5.) Many say that one’s own relationship with God is a “personal thing.” That being said, how would that work next 2: “A family that prays 2gether stays 2gether.”? Just how big is r human family?

If you don't want my beliefs to be just a "personal thing", then I hope you're not gonna have an hissy fit when I show up with a "There is no God" t-shirt next year. (Purely hypothetical... I won't go to the Park...).

6.) 2 say “Amen” at the end of a prayer simply means that u agree with the prayer. If someone had closed the Celebration in prayer, would u have bowed ur head and simply made up ur own prayer in ur mind?

I would have been quiet and let other people who are believers have that moment, because I respect their beliefs

7.) What point is there 2 pray 2 different Gods if there is only one?

Really, Prince... Take a look at the world... People have forever been worshipping different "Gods". Why should the one you worship be the one that everyone else bows to? The Pope's coming to Toronto, and maybe you should be there to feel what it's like to be among people who have beliefs that are not exactly yours. but that sincerely believe that they -- not you -- know the Truth.


8.) We hear talk of separation of God and State… State of What? Mind? R the efforts made by certain members of society 2 remove God from State a sign of progress or regress?

Do you know that Jehovah's Witnesses used to be persecuted in my native Quebec? Yep, the State was totally catholic and the Head of State -- Maurice Duplessis -- blamed JW for such things as the collapse of a bridge on the St. Lawrence River. This was in the 50's... This could only happen because the State was associating with one single religion - Catholicism -- and frowned on JWs... In other words, the separation of State and Church exists in modern societies so that YOU can worship freely. If there would be no such separation, the enforced religion would certainly not be that of the Witnesses, so be careful what you wish for...


9.) Y have all of mankind’s attempts at creating UTOPIA 4 itself failed so far?

Because, by definition, Utopia is something that can't be achieved.

10.) How can r society eliminate XENOPHOBIA?

But you are talking about xclusion here... You are acting as if people like me don't have a place in the world... Everything you just asked conspires to xclude me.

11.) 7 days of music, peace, and love — and then back 2 the “real world”… How real is the “real world”?
What is the difference between AGREEMENT and HARMONY?


Every question you asked implies that harmony will be achieved once everyone agrees with you. Why your beliefs and not mine? So much blood has been and is being spilled because of people who think their beliefs should be shared by everyone... This INTOLERANCE from the part of people who sincerely think their beliefs are the only Truth has been one of the most destructive forces in history. You don't seem to realize that the dynamics you are proposing are very much the same!
[This message was edited Fri Jul 12 4:13:33 PDT 2002 by Aerogram]
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Reply #10 posted 07/12/02 5:24am

thanks2joniand
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I have a strong feeling Prince would be eaten alive if HE...i'm sorry he ever made an appearance on The Politically Incorrect Show and tried to defend HIS...i'm sorry his beliefs.

The question that really bugs me the most is,"Y do people of all backgrounds get along at Paisley Park,and not elsewhere?"...Come again??? What self-righteous propaganda is that? Is Paisley Park the only ideal utopia on the planet where people can go and be civil to each other???

Though I was not in attendance at the celebration,I get the feeling a lot of toe-stepping was going on.
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Reply #11 posted 07/12/02 5:38am

Arcamar

A-men & A-women! Once this or that, changing, I think that could bring positive influences and integrate women more as they are in etc...
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Reply #12 posted 07/12/02 2:53pm

herbthe4

OK, what happened to the other 2 threads devoted to this topic? TELL me that they were removed at the request of the NPGMC...

Maybe I just missed them.

Aerogram rocks...

Yep. Found em'...nevermind.
[This message was edited Fri Jul 12 15:00:31 PDT 2002 by herbthe4]
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Reply #13 posted 07/12/02 3:42pm

Zthe9s

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FYI: the other topics have been moved to the NPGMC forum.
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"Every morning when I awake, the greatest of joys is mine: that of being Zthe9s... "
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Reply #14 posted 07/12/02 4:36pm

Cornerman

Thanks to all for your responses. Awomen.

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Reply #15 posted 07/12/02 5:28pm

Aerogram

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herbthe4 said:

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Aerogram rocks...


Thanks.smile

We all know who really rocks. I never thought I'd be dancing to stuff about a "theocratic order", but I'm used to enjoying music, movies, books, etc... that are not compatible with my own beliefs.
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