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Thread started 03/13/06 9:38am

Milty

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No news items about 3121 being leaked

which leads me to think that this might have been orchestrated by you-know-who.
i mean, i remember when U2's last album was leaked. it was all over the music news places.

or maybe the reason it's not out there is cuz nobody really cares.
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Reply #1 posted 03/13/06 9:41am

Nothinbutjoy

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I've never understood why there's news items when something is leaked. It happens all the time.


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Reply #2 posted 03/13/06 9:45am

cosmicslop

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I'm going with the latter category.

I don't think Prince is back to the stage where the mainstream media give a fuck about him in the same way that they do U2, Coldplay etc. At least internationally.

Also, with his productivity, his albums are less of an event than the above mentioned, in that we haven't had to wait 5 years for them (although he has tried with this one to leave some space).

And cuz he's doing it (semi) independently, there's no "record company stands to lose x million" angle for the story.

Plus, who's it leaked to? I bet only a few thousand have a copy of this, and they're all hardcore, whereas most "normal" people might have an interest in d/l a leaked copy of U2's next album. It's not like because Golden Glove and Brandon have a copy, Reuters and AP are pm them all day for a copy, and the inside scoop. 90% of people probably don't even have a clue that he is about to release a new album.
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Reply #3 posted 03/13/06 9:45am

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Yes, I think it is a case of 'album being leaked' is no longer a newsworthy story by any artist, it's happened too many times already.

I don't think the link was 'orchestrated' by Prince or Universal. I don't know what the benefit would be. If it was to create a buzz about the impending album, they could just have easily put samples up on some website in low quality to force listeners to buy the proper release.
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Reply #4 posted 03/13/06 10:05am

SexualSuicide

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I remember with the "Black album" back in 1987 there was a ton of hype.
"The little 1 will escort u 2 the places within ur mind"
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Reply #5 posted 03/13/06 10:09am

SlamGlam

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U2 is actually a majot band... they sell a hell of a lot more records than prince... and they made a LOT more money on there last tour than prince could have even dreamed of making.... maybe that is why it was news worthy?
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Reply #6 posted 03/13/06 10:53am

metalorange

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SlamGlam said:

U2 is actually a majot band... they sell a hell of a lot more records than prince... and they made a LOT more money on there last tour than prince could have even dreamed of making.... maybe that is why it was news worthy?


Certainly U2 made a lot of money on their last tour, but I don't know if it was beyond what Prince could dream of making - I read, world-wide they made about $260 million gross, how much actual profit they made is not revealed, but it's usually substantially less when production costs are taken off. Say $210 million. On the Musicology, Prince made around $50 million profit from North America alone, of course U2 have to split it 5 ways (the four members plus the manager) so that's $42 million each member! So Prince isn't too far off...
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Reply #7 posted 03/13/06 10:56am

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It could just be he doesn't care.

Lord knows, if it was Eminem or Fiddy Cent, they'd issue a press release and push the release date forward..
• Did you first think Prince was gay? •

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Reply #8 posted 03/13/06 11:37am

Milty

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wait...thi sthread is about the leak not touring.
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Reply #9 posted 03/13/06 12:33pm

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Milty said:

wait...thi sthread is about the leak not touring.


for one threas have a life of there own....

and 2nd if you read the what was posted you would see how they are connected. U2 is a MAJOR act that is MUCH more of a draw that Prince is. that is why U2's leak would get more media attention becasue more people MANY MORE care about U2 than Prince. the fact that U2 made so much more than prince proves more people want to see U2 than prince. the fact that they sold many more copies of their last few CD than prince has sold of all his CDs in the last 10 years (ok that might be a bit over stated but not by much) all goes to tell you why a U2 leak might make the news where as a Prince leak would not.
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Reply #10 posted 03/13/06 12:43pm

sacredwarrior

gasp!

it couldnt have been leeked by leeches could it??

i dont really get why he would leak it himself .

but i guess when a CD has its own world tour

thats the risk u take .




btw i always found this idea of the CD having its own tour kinda funny.

there it sits - the CD in first class - with its shades on - sippin fine champagne - kickin back in its 5 star penthouse suite - cruisin in limos smokin cigars

rich and famous CD ! LOL

mayb it got a mind of its own and went " hmm i think imma put my self out there whether he likes it or not "

lol
" the embassy shut to keep the fools out " - as above, so below.
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Reply #11 posted 03/13/06 5:27pm

Milty

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SlamGlam said:

Milty said:

wait...thi sthread is about the leak not touring.


for one threas have a life of there own....

and 2nd if you read the what was posted you would see how they are connected. U2 is a MAJOR act that is MUCH more of a draw that Prince is. that is why U2's leak would get more media attention becasue more people MANY MORE care about U2 than Prince. the fact that U2 made so much more than prince proves more people want to see U2 than prince. the fact that they sold many more copies of their last few CD than prince has sold of all his CDs in the last 10 years (ok that might be a bit over stated but not by much) all goes to tell you why a U2 leak might make the news where as a Prince leak would not.



ok so you didn't answer my question per se.
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Reply #12 posted 03/13/06 6:41pm

SlamGlam

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Milty said:[quote]

SlamGlam said:



ok so you didn't answer my question per se.



I doubt any artist would leak an entire album he meant to sell. We know some songs got leaked by prine but not pojects that were comming out in 2 weeks.
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Reply #13 posted 03/14/06 3:09am

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Nothinbutjoy said:

I've never understood why there's news items when something is leaked. It happens all the time.


rose



Yeah,it's old news.Every album leaks before it's official release date.
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Reply #14 posted 03/14/06 3:44am

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Milty said:

which leads me to think that this might have been orchestrated by you-know-who.
i mean, i remember when U2's last album was leaked. it was all over the music news places.

or maybe the reason it's not out there is cuz nobody really cares.

What would be the point in purposely leaking it and not having a news story to go with it? Like someone said it's only going to be the hardcore that really get hold of it. There isn't going to be any talking about this amongst the general public. When Eminem's last album leaked it was in all the tabloids and everyone in the office knew that the release was being brought forward as a result. If they didn't have me working there none of them would even know that Prince has a new album coming. As it is, they don't even care.
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Reply #15 posted 03/14/06 4:45am

Rebeljuice

Maybe the leak is simply serving as a listening party on a larger scale. Maybe someone wants to get the thoughts of a wider audience prior to release so that a marketing strategy can be better formed.

Perhaps Universal heard the album and thought wow, who are we targeting with this? “I know”, someone says, “lets leak it and see what the reaction is”. Afterall, the leak isn’t going to be a huge issue as only the hardcore will even notice anyway…

I cant help but feel a certain demo-ish sound to some of the trax. Perhaps the final release will throw up some surprises for us, thus negating any lost revenue from the hardcore too.

Then again, maybe it really is a case of no one giving a shit.
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Reply #16 posted 03/14/06 7:20am

DIAMONDGEEZA

I have to laugh when i c every1 arguing about prince and u2 and all the money and leaked media hype.Sales and media profile doesnt necessarily count when it comes to talent and lets not forget the way all record companies manipulate artists and record buying punters alike.ANY1 REMEMBER bRIT-POP WITH OASIS V BLUR BACK IN THE NINTIES.I couldnt care less and guaranteed the record labels are laughing there socks off as we argue about pointless artist v artist debates and go out and buy tons of records to boot.in my eyes u2 are great,prince better because he writes his own tunes,and the most over-rated excuse to print money has to be elvis.
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Reply #17 posted 03/14/06 7:39am

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DIAMONDGEEZA said:

I have to laugh when i c every1 arguing about prince and u2 and all the money and leaked media hype.Sales and media profile doesnt necessarily count when it comes to talent and lets not forget the way all record companies manipulate artists and record buying punters alike.ANY1 REMEMBER bRIT-POP WITH OASIS V BLUR BACK IN THE NINTIES.I couldnt care less and guaranteed the record labels are laughing there socks off as we argue about pointless artist v artist debates and go out and buy tons of records to boot.in my eyes u2 are great,prince better because he writes his own tunes,and the most over-rated excuse to print money has to be elvis.


It's not about arguing about who's best. U2 are being used as an example because when their last album was leaked there were quite a few articles about it, which may have actually helped to promote the album. So then you have to explain why it is a newsworthy story when U2 do it but not Prince - and the answer being argued is that, right now, U2 are far bigger than Prince, as proved by their larger album sales and concert profits.
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Reply #18 posted 03/14/06 9:43am

thedoorkeeper

I didn't think U2's cd was leaked.
I thought the cd was stolen when they did a photo shoot
& the big question was would they move the release date up.
There really was no story - U2 made this a story by releasing the fact
that the cd was stolen & then acting coy about it affecting the release date.
If Prince & Universal wanted some publicity they could have made a stink about the leak, then moved the release date up & that would have been "news".
No one is upset about the leaks so there is no "news".
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Reply #19 posted 03/16/06 6:39pm

metalorange

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DavidEye said:

Nothinbutjoy said:

I've never understood why there's news items when something is leaked. It happens all the time.


rose



Yeah,it's old news.Every album leaks before it's official release date.


Saying that, Tamar's album hasn't leaked yet...
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