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"Too many fake instruments!" I can't believe I've actually read criticisms like that about 3121.
Have some fans forgotten that most of Prince's catalogue used "fake instruments" like synths and linn drums? Why is it acceptable for an album like 1999, but not 3121? I can understand hating something really cold and plastic like those Kirky J programmed beats, but why the hate for 3121 being so digital? That's just Prince. That's his sound! The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: That's his sound![/color]
Not really. The sound on "3121" is quite far away from Prince's typical electronic sound. | |
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I fink its because in 2004, he was just on about "real music for real music lovers" bla bla bla and people just creep that guys ass, and expect another album with real instruments..... Keenmeister |
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Just be happy their is music being made  and released![Edited 3/11/06 7:09am] Keenmeister |
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I think it's quite a fresh sound for Prince. Only half the songs on 3121 are completely reliant on synth sounds - but those that do, the melody is carried by synths, much like the melody of When Doves Cry is carried by that synth sound that MC Hammer sampled in 'Pray'.
I think these songs will sound completely different live, which is going to be interesting to hear... | |
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I'm all for making good music any way you can. Why limit the possibilities? | |
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metalorange said: I think it's quite a fresh sound for Prince. Only half the songs on 3121 are completely reliant on synth sounds - but those that do, the melody is carried by synths, much like the melody of When Doves Cry is carried by that synth sound that MC Hammer sampled in 'Pray'.
I think these songs will sound completely different live, which is going to be interesting to hear... It doesn't sound played out or tired, the synths, which is cool. I am really impressed with 3121 overall, like I posted on another thread, other than Incense and Candles and Fury, it's a very strong and engaging affair. And my dislike for Fury has nothing to do with it not "rocking" via the live version, I just think in the scheme of things, it's kinda weak. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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Purpleknight I agree with you. Prince has been using this sound in his music since forever, now some people are being critical of it. I just think that some people are just running out of things critize so now there reaching. Just my to sense. | |
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I don't mean that 3121 sounds like 1999, Purple Rain, or Sign 'O' The Times, but just that they all use an electronic sound.
I actually read one comment criticizing The Dance for using a keyboard. Well what about The Beautiful Ones? That was a totally electronic song, and it never gets criticized for it at all. Why the double standard towards 3121 from some fans? The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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PurpleKnight said: Why the double standard towards 3121 from some fans?[/color] It's not really about the fact that there are electronics involved so prominently, but rather HOW they are used. I think that should be obvious to anyone. | |
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Novabreaker said: PurpleKnight said: Why the double standard towards 3121 from some fans?[/color] It's not really about the fact that there are electronics involved so prominently, but rather HOW they are used. I think that should be obvious to anyone. Exactly ! I have no problem with the way 3121 sounds, I even like the drum programming just the way it is, but there is a HUGE difference between the beats on 3121 and , say, the first few seconds of "She´s Always In My Hair " with that beat taken from Sex Shooter ....or the beat of G-Spot or Dance Electric... I mean, I know very little about the technological details, you are the sound guru here on this board, but the way he experimented with those drum computers and effects back in the day was different...like on Dorothy Parker and the above mentioned songs... IMO, it´s not so much about whether he´s using electronic or real instruments but whether the end product sounds nice. A combination of both real instruments and electronic has always been his trademark. Especially the 1983-85 years were, IMHO, very interesting because of how he combined both. I´m too lazy to look it up in one of those Per Nielsen books now, but he experimented a lot back then , and it sounded great. But, as I said, 3121 sounds nice as well. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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Novabreaker said: PurpleKnight said: Why the double standard towards 3121 from some fans?[/color] It's not really about the fact that there are electronics involved so prominently, but rather HOW they are used. I think that should be obvious to anyone. I think, largely, the synths are being used as synths, ie they are not pretending or 'faking' to be other instruments, they are undisguised pure electronic sounds. I'm sure there are synth drums, but apart from that... The 'real music by real musicians' was always about live concert situations, a pop at concerts that are increasingly mimed and using pre-recorded music rather than using instruments to generate the music live from scratch. | |
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