roodboi said:

Yeah, I don't really know about that. But the bottom-line is, Prince HASN'T recorded anything like Hey Ya! in the last umpteen years.

I think Prince had a heyday where he could do no wrong and I think Outkast is currently in that stage. In the long run will Prince have done more to shape the pop landscape? I think there's no question and he's obviously a much more taltented musician, but in terms of production, I think one could make a case for Andre 3000 ultimately being just as good, if not better. Note to the apologists, I'm not saying Andre 3000 IS, I'm saying time will tell.

Maybe a bit of a wandering thought, but I also think a lot can be said for Andre 3000 likely being more in touch with the common person than Prince when it comes to producing and making music for today. Prince lives in a ivory, or, purple tower, and has for his career, whereas Andre, while obviously owing a lot to Prince (just as Prince owes a load to JB, Sly Stone, Clinton, Santanta, etc), isn't as far removed from the daily rituals of those he's making music for.
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Wall said:

WOW, who knew Hey Ya was so fucking great?

Youve gotta really be fn kidding me here...outkast has been influenced by P for years. If anything theyve taken from him. Until you can actually write a song worth 2 craps yourself shut it

CalhounSq said:

Well I wasn't only talking about Hey Ya! but Outkast's catalog, esp. from ATLiens - current vs Prince's catalog from say New Power Soul On.

Though I WOULD also say Hey Ya! is the best pop song I've heard in at least 10 years, but that is of course, just in my humble opinion.

ok...I don't really see it as playing a game..it was a hypothetical question..if you wanna call it daydreaming thats fine...I still believe that if he recorded that song or any other recent pop hit, it wouldn't be considered definitive pop because he recorded it...I guess people expect more from him because of his past work.

roodboi said:

I completely agree with you. I'd also bet there's been more than a few tracks released by Prince in the last few years that would have been major hits if given to other artists.

It's like each year this guy loses his genius label with each release

I have only heard a few tracks from new album, and I saw music video of Blacksweat, which it seemed to me he was kinda trying to use similiar idea to the "Kiss" clip, i really cant say I was impresssed.

endyrachel said:

OskarKristio said:

The tracks that are officially released are amongst the worst ones on the album. I'm not saying I don't like them as I do really like Te Amo, Black Sweat and even Beautiful Loved and Blessed has grown on me. But the rest of the album is far better and more diverse than suggested by these tracks.

3121, The Word, Get On The Boat, The Dance, Incense and Candles, Love. All great tracks. I believe you may change your opinion when you've heard it all.

Wall said:

I think it's a bit unfair to take what you describe yourself as the best pop song in 10 years and then complain that Prince isn't writing work that good. Prince has had his share of perfect pop songs - they are rare. It's not just the music, but the time in which they were released, the social climate at hand... Hey Ya! may be one; certainly both When Doves Cry and Kiss fall into that category. But just because Prince hasn't released a perfect pop song ince 1986 doesn't mean that he has lost his genius.

For example, IMHO, Reflection, Joint 2 Joint, The Holy River, On The Couch and Satisfied... these are just some examples of songs that I personally enjoy listening to much more than Hey Ya!. Do I think they should have made a splash on the radio? Not nescessarily. Do they capture the spirit of the times? Probably not. But I love them, I know many others love them, and that ie enough for me to still believe in Prince's genius.

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Your right Prince has been brilliant Artist and very hardworking Performer, Muscician etc, I have been a fan since 1983, he deserves a lot of credit thats completly true.
But... whilst I agree people should be respectful and not obnoxious, I dont see why
people have to be supportive no matter what, I chose not to buy Musicology because from what I heard of it I didnt think I would bother spending the money
this does not mean Im not a Prince fan it just means I didnt feel that album had much of anything new or interesting to offer, or nothing that really stood out.
The purpose of forum is to have discussion and if this includes people giving there real oppinions about different albums then thats fine, it would be a bit silly to say every album was brilliant if you dont feel that way about every album.

Wall said:

WOW, who knew Hey Ya was so fucking great?

..you didn't...

and Pharrell was on there saying how it "sounds like something Prince would come up with in a jam session" He needed a Nigga Please award for saying that shit because no it doesn't.