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thomas840 said: Liberal and Conservative are considered opposite poles in most parts of the world
You don't go abroad much do you!? 
Great poll though!  . |
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 It's good that 100% taking the poll consider themselves Prince fans. 
Also, I like the 3121 expLosure--(is that a combo of explode & expose?) The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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SquirrelMeat said: thomas840 said: Liberal and Conservative are considered opposite poles in most parts of the world
You don't go abroad much do you!?
Great poll though! I'm guessing that you're Aussie, right? It's a very peculiar Aussie thing that the main conservative party is called Liberal. That's why in Australia, people talk about big-L Liberal (i.e. connected to the conservative party) and small-l liberal. The problem with the term "liberal" is that in terms of economics it refers to "free-market" ideology which is actually right-wing, whereas on social and other issues it refers to progressive thinking which is left-wing. In that vein, the converse of conservative should really be progressive, and if you wanted two extremes, it may be better to say "radical" v. "reactionary" or simply "left" v. "right". As I said, because of the economic implications, in countries such as Australia, "Liberal" can ironically mean "conservative". "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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Does anybody else find it weird that it said a 5 year old took this poll?
What kind of sick people gave 1999 and Purple Rain a 0? Same for the ones who gave Emancipation a 10... | |
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SquirrelMeat said: thomas840 said: Liberal and Conservative are considered opposite poles in most parts of the world
You don't go abroad much do you!?
Great poll though! Thanks. Actually I do travel quite a bit. I'm currently living in Thailand. | |
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wasitgood4u said: SquirrelMeat said: You don't go abroad much do you!?
Great poll though! I'm guessing that you're Aussie, right? It's a very peculiar Aussie thing that the main conservative party is called Liberal. That's why in Australia, people talk about big-L Liberal (i.e. connected to the conservative party) and small-l liberal. The problem with the term "liberal" is that in terms of economics it refers to "free-market" ideology which is actually right-wing, whereas on social and other issues it refers to progressive thinking which is left-wing. In that vein, the converse of conservative should really be progressive, and if you wanted two extremes, it may be better to say "radical" v. "reactionary" or simply "left" v. "right". As I said, because of the economic implications, in countries such as Australia, "Liberal" can ironically mean "conservative". Not sure if you are asking this of me or SquirrelMeat.... as for me, no, I'm not Aussie, I'm American. But I've lived in Australia and am well aware of that oddity of Australian politics. You've also hit the nail on the head when it comes to trying to pin down an ideology. If I were really trying to get into political positions, it's much better to ask questions on specific issues since "liberal" and "conservative" can mean different things in different contexts, and even change over time. For example, socially Bush 1 would probably be classified as a liberal by today's standards, though my died-in the-wool Democrat sister would balk at such a statement. I don't think asking "are you a radical or not" would be very useful. I doubt very much that either Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken would self-identify with the terms "radical" or "reactionary", though they are both clearly on the opposite sides of most issues. Left vs. Right is a possibility, I suppose; though I think those terms are even more ambiguous than liberal and conservative. *Shrug*. Again, this isn't a political poll, so it's not a big deal. | |
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thomas840 said: wasitgood4u said: I'm guessing that you're Aussie, right? It's a very peculiar Aussie thing that the main conservative party is called Liberal. That's why in Australia, people talk about big-L Liberal (i.e. connected to the conservative party) and small-l liberal. The problem with the term "liberal" is that in terms of economics it refers to "free-market" ideology which is actually right-wing, whereas on social and other issues it refers to progressive thinking which is left-wing. In that vein, the converse of conservative should really be progressive, and if you wanted two extremes, it may be better to say "radical" v. "reactionary" or simply "left" v. "right". As I said, because of the economic implications, in countries such as Australia, "Liberal" can ironically mean "conservative". Not sure if you are asking this of me or SquirrelMeat.... as for me, no, I'm not Aussie, I'm American. But I've lived in Australia and am well aware of that oddity of Australian politics. You've also hit the nail on the head when it comes to trying to pin down an ideology. If I were really trying to get into political positions, it's much better to ask questions on specific issues since "liberal" and "conservative" can mean different things in different contexts, and even change over time. For example, socially Bush 1 would probably be classified as a liberal by today's standards, though my died-in the-wool Democrat sister would balk at such a statement. I don't think asking "are you a radical or not" would be very useful. I doubt very much that either Rush Limbaugh or Al Franken would self-identify with the terms "radical" or "reactionary", though they are both clearly on the opposite sides of most issues. Left vs. Right is a possibility, I suppose; though I think those terms are even more ambiguous than liberal and conservative. *Shrug*. Again, this isn't a political poll, so it's not a big deal. I was asking squirrelmeat actually (I think). Anyway the option of radical and reactionary for a scale poll question make sense, because they are extremes, and most prople would be somewhere in the middle. "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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wasitgood4u said: I was asking squirrelmeat actually (I think). Anyway the option of radical and reactionary for a scale poll question make sense, because they are extremes, and most prople would be somewhere in the middle. Exactly... and thus not not very illuminating! What's the point in asking a question that we already know the answer? But, just to continue this line of thought... if you put "radical" on one end of a 10 point scale, what should be on the other end? Reasonable? Conservative? Institutional? ... | |
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thomas840 said: So my first attempt was aborted... this time I think I have it right.
Prince creates such a diverse body of music that each new album that he releases tends to divide his fans into those who love and hate the latest creation. 3121 seems to be no different. Fans will argue vehemently over what is the greatest love song, if he should rock out or funk out, and if his most recent output compares to his 80's work. This poll is meant to illuminate the themes and issues which divide, and unite, the Prince fan community. http://www.my3q.com/home2...7941.phtml After two weeks I'll do a statistical analyis on the results and post them here... everyone pls participate! Very good poll Thomas, the questions were very sensible and I think the results showed my tastes are quite mainstream. It was good of you too to ask questions about FAMILIAR and STRATEGIC albums as well as hit ones, especially stuff like Dirty Mind and Emancipation, hardly his biggest sellers, but probably two of his most important records. Perhaps this survey later could be sent to uptown or even the Love4onanother site or something like that, and to all Prince orgers who havent already do the survey. Its only had 98 people when I did it. 17 Years ago I made a commitment to Prince | |
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thomas840 said: wasitgood4u said: I was asking squirrelmeat actually (I think). Anyway the option of radical and reactionary for a scale poll question make sense, because they are extremes, and most prople would be somewhere in the middle. Exactly... and thus not not very illuminating! What's the point in asking a question that we already know the answer? But, just to continue this line of thought... if you put "radical" on one end of a 10 point scale, what should be on the other end? Reasonable? Conservative? Institutional? ... I said - reactionary should be at the other end. BTW, I said "somewhere in the middle" not "at the center". I would probably put myself at a number 2 or 3 on that scale, and EvilWHiteMAle, if he's still around, would probably be a 10! Overall, it's a great poll by the way, which is why I'm bumping it, but I was a bit disappointed you didn't include Lovesexy! "We've never been able to pull off a funk number"
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wasitgood4u said: thomas840 said: Exactly... and thus not not very illuminating! What's the point in asking a question that we already know the answer? But, just to continue this line of thought... if you put "radical" on one end of a 10 point scale, what should be on the other end? Reasonable? Conservative? Institutional? ... I said - reactionary should be at the other end. BTW, I said "somewhere in the middle" not "at the center". I would probably put myself at a number 2 or 3 on that scale, and EvilWHiteMAle, if he's still around, would probably be a 10! Overall, it's a great poll by the way, which is why I'm bumping it, but I was a bit disappointed you didn't include Lovesexy! Radical on one end, and reactionary on the other? I must confess then that I don't quite follow. I'll have to stew on it a while. Also... ACK! You are right, I didn't include Lovesexy! Purely an accident. I very much wanted to compare the reactions to it and TRC. | |
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