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Reply #30 posted 03/07/06 6:18pm

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True, but I think it may be a little late. His singing is so muted on that.
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #31 posted 03/07/06 6:19pm

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thomas840 said:

I'm usuall a Prince defender... and still am, but yo guys are ripping the author of this post for stating the obvious...

When Fury was on SNL the whole net was buzzing. It, like the SNL stage, was on fire. It was a guitar driven, hard rocking, Hendrix-inspired slam to the face. He probably could have released a similar recording the next day and it would have flown up the charts. To deny this is to simply be deaf to the world for those few days after SNL.

The album version is much less guitar oriented... the guitar is still there, but it's pushed to the back of the mix while the keyboards are to the fore. The vocal delivery is much more relaxed, less urgent. It doesn't stand out at all from the stuff around it and is a far less obvious single than tracks like Lolita or Love.

I think Prince proved on SNL that Fury is better when the guitar is prominent, not the keyboard. But I believe they chose the keyboard version for the album because it fits on the record that way... the whole album is r&b... to throw a rock song in the middle of that would be jarring (that's the one problem I have with TGE... so many styles next to each other makes the album feel disjointed).

I think it would be a brilliant move if Prince released Fury as a single, but included as a "B-side" a new, rock-version of the song (a la SNL). Then the dj's could play the kick ass rock version AND the album maintains its flow.


or just release the rock version of it AS the single.

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Reply #32 posted 03/07/06 6:19pm

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7salles said:

he sings on SNL with much more passion. You know? that bridge that goes like
"Who are the gulty one? when there are no judges and juries?" used to give me goosebumps, when i heard him singing on the studio version i was very dissapointed. The guitar solos are very mediocre too, the themes are the same but the improvised parts are a mess, less energetic and technically inferior. The guitar tone is not very good too. he fucked up a great song. He did more bad to this song than he did to endorphinemachine.


You can't be serious. Fury is a great song, studio or live.

What Prince did to Endorphinmachine is a travesty unless you're Christopher Walken.
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Reply #33 posted 03/07/06 6:20pm

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loudawg said:

thomas840 said:

I'm usuall a Prince defender... and still am, but yo guys are ripping the author of this post for stating the obvious...

When Fury was on SNL the whole net was buzzing. It, like the SNL stage, was on fire. It was a guitar driven, hard rocking, Hendrix-inspired slam to the face. He probably could have released a similar recording the next day and it would have flown up the charts. To deny this is to simply be deaf to the world for those few days after SNL.

The album version is much less guitar oriented... the guitar is still there, but it's pushed to the back of the mix while the keyboards are to the fore. The vocal delivery is much more relaxed, less urgent. It doesn't stand out at all from the stuff around it and is a far less obvious single than tracks like Lolita or Love.

I think Prince proved on SNL that Fury is better when the guitar is prominent, not the keyboard. But I believe they chose the keyboard version for the album because it fits on the record that way... the whole album is r&b... to throw a rock song in the middle of that would be jarring (that's the one problem I have with TGE... so many styles next to each other makes the album feel disjointed).

I think it would be a brilliant move if Prince released Fury as a single, but included as a "B-side" a new, rock-version of the song (a la SNL). Then the dj's could play the kick ass rock version AND the album maintains its flow.


The synth in Fury = The cowbell in Endorphinmachine.

The synth is the new cowbell!

More cowbell!

Anyway. I hear a lot of guitar on Fury. But then i'm listening to it on my kick ass dolby digital system through my xbox 360.


This album DEFINITELY needs more cowbell! nod

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Reply #34 posted 03/07/06 6:22pm

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The song should have been produced like Endorphin Machine was.
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Reply #35 posted 03/07/06 6:23pm

loudawg

2freaky4church1 said:

The song should have been produced like Endorphin Machine was.


It wouldn't fit on the album if it was... the entire album is synth-driven. It would be out of place. Therefore, Prince made the correct decision.
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Reply #36 posted 03/07/06 6:28pm

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no he didnt; he fucked up an incredible song. i didnt expect a SNL like version, but the guitar is tooo low, the way he sings sucks too; i hated it. i am the same guy who putted fury above lots of prince rock classics. he changed the bridge, the best part of the song.
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Reply #37 posted 03/07/06 6:37pm

loudawg

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no he didnt; he fucked up an incredible song. i didnt expect a SNL like version, but the guitar is tooo low, the way he sings sucks too; i hated it. i am the same guy who putted fury above lots of prince rock classics. he changed the bridge, the best part of the song.


I actually like the laid back, relaxed vocals of the album version, as well as the new "ahhhhh". What makes you think Prince changed the album version? It's obvious he changed -the live version- because this cut was already in the can.
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Reply #38 posted 03/07/06 7:02pm

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MarcelJ said:

Hey it's worth a try, can I get an AMEN out there?


AMEN TO THAT !

I was so pumped about the studio version after seeing SNL and Wow.....what a letdown ! The whole song is slow, the guitars are lost, the voice has no urgency and its just such a standard tune now. I hate the intro and to think i
actually thought that endorphine machine had a new rival and Im sad to say.....not even close !

sad

Fuck P.....get yr shit together.
I just can't believe all the things people say !
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Reply #39 posted 03/07/06 7:06pm

JPW

lol

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[Edited 3/7/06 19:22pm]
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Reply #40 posted 03/07/06 9:01pm

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Controversy said:

MarcelJ said:

Hey it's worth a try, can I get an AMEN out there?


AMEN TO THAT !...
sad

...Fuck P.....get yr shit together.
Something must be together 'cause here you are asking for more.


Why not see the SNL version as a bonus? That's what it is.
Would you rather not have heard it at all? The logic of all that is so crazy it's almost unreal.

I like the SNL version a lot. Now I'm actually looking forward to the other. It's not as if one will cancel out the other. They both exist. Here's the other crazy part: They both came from the same person. So instead of complaining, see that for what it is.

If the problem is that you want a higher quality version of your SNL mp3 that shouldn't be out there in the first place, I agree. I would pay for it too.
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Reply #41 posted 03/07/06 9:05pm

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loudawg said:

thomas840 said:

I'm usuall a Prince defender... and still am, but yo guys are ripping the author of this post for stating the obvious...

When Fury was on SNL the whole net was buzzing. It, like the SNL stage, was on fire. It was a guitar driven, hard rocking, Hendrix-inspired slam to the face. He probably could have released a similar recording the next day and it would have flown up the charts. To deny this is to simply be deaf to the world for those few days after SNL.

The album version is much less guitar oriented... the guitar is still there, but it's pushed to the back of the mix while the keyboards are to the fore. The vocal delivery is much more relaxed, less urgent. It doesn't stand out at all from the stuff around it and is a far less obvious single than tracks like Lolita or Love.

I think Prince proved on SNL that Fury is better when the guitar is prominent, not the keyboard. But I believe they chose the keyboard version for the album because it fits on the record that way... the whole album is r&b... to throw a rock song in the middle of that would be jarring (that's the one problem I have with TGE... so many styles next to each other makes the album feel disjointed).

I think it would be a brilliant move if Prince released Fury as a single, but included as a "B-side" a new, rock-version of the song (a la SNL). Then the dj's could play the kick ass rock version AND the album maintains its flow.


The synth in Fury = The cowbell in Endorphinmachine.

The synth is the new cowbell!

More cowbell!

Anyway. I hear a lot of guitar on Fury. But then i'm listening to it on my kick ass dolby digital system through my xbox 360.



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Reply #42 posted 03/08/06 2:02am

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Perfect Summation number 1 was by Thomas840
When Fury was on SNL the whole net was buzzing. It, like the SNL stage, was on fire. It was a guitar driven, hard rocking, Hendrix-inspired slam to the face. He probably could have released a similar recording the next day and it would have flown up the charts. To deny this is to simply be deaf to the world for those few days after SNL.

The album version is much less guitar oriented... the guitar is still there, but it's pushed to the back of the mix while the keyboards are to the fore. The vocal delivery is much more relaxed, less urgent. It doesn't stand out at all from the stuff around it and is a far less obvious single than tracks like Lolita or Love.

I think Prince proved on SNL that Fury is better when the guitar is prominent, not the keyboard.

I think it would be a brilliant move if Prince released Fury as a single, but included as a "B-side" a new, rock-version of the song (a la SNL). Then the dj's could play the kick ass rock version AND the album maintains its flow.


And Perfect Summation number 2 was by 7salles:
he sings on SNL with much more passion. You know? that bridge that goes like
"Who are the gulty one? when there are no judges and juries?" used to give me goosebumps, when i heard him singing on the studio version i was very dissapointed. The guitar solos are very mediocre too, the themes are the same but the improvised parts are a mess, less energetic and technically inferior. The guitar tone is not very good too. he fucked up a great song. He did more bad to this song than he did to endorphinemachine. he fucked up an incredible song. i didnt expect a SNL like version, but the guitar is tooo low, the way he sings sucks too; i hated it. i am the same guy who putted fury above lots of prince rock classics. he changed the bridge, the best part of the song.


Well said guys, perfectly put.
He's done to the album version of Fury what michael jackson's done to numerous little boys.

It's just WRONG...
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Reply #43 posted 03/08/06 2:43am

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7salles said:

he sings on SNL with much more passion. You know? that bridge that goes like
"Who are the gulty one? when there are no judges and juries?" used to give me goosebumps, when i heard him singing on the studio version i was very dissapointed. The guitar solos are very mediocre too, the themes are the same but the improvised parts are a mess, less energetic and technically inferior. The guitar tone is not very good too. he fucked up a great song. He did more bad to this song than he did to endorphinemachine.



Or... he turned a so-so studio song into a great live track?!!!!
Like he did so many times before...
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Reply #44 posted 03/08/06 3:17am

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anon said:

Controversy said:



AMEN TO THAT !...
sad

...Fuck P.....get yr shit together.
Something must be together 'cause here you are asking for more.


Why not see the SNL version as a bonus? That's what it is.
Would you rather not have heard it at all? The logic of all that is so crazy it's almost unreal.

I like the SNL version a lot. Now I'm actually looking forward to the other. It's not as if one will cancel out the other. They both exist. Here's the other crazy part: They both came from the same person. So instead of complaining, see that for what it is.

If the problem is that you want a higher quality version of your SNL mp3 that shouldn't be out there in the first place, I agree. I would pay for it too.


Discussion over biggrin
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Reply #45 posted 03/08/06 8:22am

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OK here's my take on "The Problem With Fury" there have been alot of complaints about the keyboards being pushed to the front and the guitars being pushed back. I really don't think that's the main problem. To me, the main problem is it doesn't seem like he took the song as seriously in the studio version. He's not SINGING on the studio version, he's kinda just talking through it. Also his delivery is almost comedic. His vocals kinda remind me of "Illusion, Coma, Pimp and Circumstance"; just bad. Fury is a great song, but his vocal delivery is what really ruined this song for me.
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Reply #46 posted 03/08/06 10:54am

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Ok, I was just letting 3121 play and doing some work and Fury played through and I enjoyed it and didn't skip it. I can't say I'm in "love" with the studio version or get the goosebumps I get when I play the SNL on my TIVO, but I'm glad it's not a "skipper" track.
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Reply #47 posted 03/08/06 11:23am

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On second thought i have to say the studio version isn't that bad at all
[Edited 3/8/06 18:39pm]
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Reply #48 posted 03/08/06 11:25am

Eline

I actually like the studio version of Fury the same as the live version.
okay, it has lost some power in the studio but IMO the studio version is more Prince-like while the live version is more Jimmi Hendrix-esk.
There is nothing wrong with Jimmi Hendrix (in contrary: I love him) but I prefer originality.
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Reply #49 posted 03/08/06 11:32am

paisleyfunk

cool Ok,i remember when The Gold Experience came out...i had heard Endorphine Machine,dolphin,now and Gold live on a tape i had gotten...i got the tape 3 months before the album came out,i must of listened to that tape 100 times before the album came out...the songs i had already heard live to me were way better than the studio version i think that was just because it was what i was used to hearing...once i heard the album 8 or 9 times i liked the studio versions of the songs just as much or better than the live versions...so i think for some people its just what your used to hearing.
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Reply #50 posted 03/08/06 12:26pm

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muirdo said:

Payt said:



it is in stereo, yah smile and in glorious 192 kbs smile



192kbs wow!!!

thats awesome...,.....rolleyes


i have it in a lossless flac file. Any yes it's in stereo. The source was probably a DVD recorder. It really sounds awesome compared to the album version.

Though i might add, the album version is getting more enjoyable with each listen. Just came as a shock initially i think.

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[Edited 3/8/06 12:29pm]
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Reply #51 posted 03/08/06 1:58pm

7salles

Nobody noticed that the guitar solos on the studio version pales in comparasion to the live version? He overdubbed diferrent licks, you cant even tell what he is playing some times.
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Reply #52 posted 03/08/06 3:57pm

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I like the studio and love the SNL version.

I've got the studio version on repeat now biggrin , as I do the dancers routine. dancing jig
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Reply #53 posted 03/08/06 4:01pm

PurpleCharm

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that I wish he had the female backing vocals on the studio version. They added a li'l punch to the song.
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Reply #54 posted 03/08/06 4:41pm

7salles

i am hearing again he fucked up even the unison guitar/vocal part
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Reply #55 posted 03/08/06 4:45pm

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You guys obviosuly didn't know that he fucked up and left it with less power on purpose because he was going for an old school Dirty Mindesque demo vibe with a nod towards 80's synth-pop while delivering a laid back vocal, it's all part of the master plan, it came to me tonight when I listened to it for the ninth time. Why I didn't realize that at first, I don't know, but now it's clear as day. It's genius when you think about it and it blows away the SNL version. I mean, why rock when you can flop?
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Reply #56 posted 03/08/06 4:48pm

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Wall said:

You guys obviosuly didn't know that he fucked up and left it with less power on purpose because he was going for an old school Dirty Mindesque demo vibe with a nod towards 80's synth-pop while delivering a laid back vocal, it's all part of the master plan, it came to me tonight when I listened to it for the ninth time. Why I didn't realize that at first, I don't know, but now it's clear as day. It's genius when you think about it and it blows away the SNL version. I mean, why rock when you can flop?


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Reply #57 posted 03/08/06 4:49pm

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Payt said:

Wall said:

You guys obviosuly didn't know that he fucked up and left it with less power on purpose because he was going for an old school Dirty Mindesque demo vibe with a nod towards 80's synth-pop while delivering a laid back vocal, it's all part of the master plan, it came to me tonight when I listened to it for the ninth time. Why I didn't realize that at first, I don't know, but now it's clear as day. It's genius when you think about it and it blows away the SNL version. I mean, why rock when you can flop?


Maybe they'll get it when you post this same message another 100 times wink


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Reply #58 posted 03/08/06 4:52pm

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Wall said:

Payt said:



Maybe they'll get it when you post this same message another 100 times wink


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Reply #59 posted 03/08/06 8:51pm

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7salles said:

Nobody noticed that the guitar solos on the studio version pales in comparasion to the live version? He overdubbed diferrent licks, you cant even tell what he is playing some times.


The guitar is much harder to follow on the studio version.

I really thought he was finally going to release a song that would please the Purple Rain fan in all of us. It's as if he does everything possible to distance himself from that era. I can't remember the last time he performed When Doves Cry or Erotic City, which are two of my favorite songs.
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