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Thread started 03/17/06 6:47am

skywalker

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Does Prince get more love/better reviews when he is with a major record label?

Listen, I dig 3121. Do I think it's heads and shoulders better than anything Prince has done since 1994? No. Many of the things critics are saying about 3121 could have been said about "Emancipation", "Rave", "Musicology", and even "The Rainbow Children".

Most of the critics reviews for "new" Prince albums say something to the effect of : "prince is back from being crazy" and then gone on to claim what classic Prince sound he is "revisting." Whatever...

Again, 3121 is cool. I just think that, for the most part, critics shit on the albums Prince did when he was not with a major label or in his "wilderness years". I think that anyone who dismisses that entire era has not been paying attention and is blowing a lot of hot air.
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Reply #1 posted 03/17/06 7:21am

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I havent experienced it like that over here. TRC and One nite alone live got excellent reviews while musicology and rave only got mediocre reviews. I do agree that in terms of quality music 3121 does not stand out that much from his other albums since 1994. Only difference perhaps is that this album may appeal to more people then for instance TRC
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Reply #2 posted 03/17/06 8:00am

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I agree with Skywalker. They really try and dismiss his attempts to be an independent artist following a new business model (that many are now replicating) releasing challenging, non-commercial-aimed music that allows him to grow as an artist. Then when he purposely does something more commercial, it is a comeback from the wilderness, and suddenly they're all over him. I think that just shows how the music critics are all caught up in maintaining the status quo just as much as the big record companies.

It's well known that if you don't have a hit album or song everytime these days, you are dropped from your music label. That puts pressure on bands and artists to deliver music aimed squarely at the mass-markets and doesn't give them much room for experimentation and growth (which inherently means making the odd mistake and wrong turn). Prince has found a way to experiment and still come back to commercial music when he wants, and should be applauded for that, not thought of as 'crazy' for putting out low-key experiments in music.
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Reply #3 posted 03/17/06 7:28pm

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metalorange said:

I agree with Skywalker. They really try and dismiss his attempts to be an independent artist following a new business model (that many are now replicating) releasing challenging, non-commercial-aimed music that allows him to grow as an artist. Then when he purposely does something more commercial, it is a comeback from the wilderness, and suddenly they're all over him. I think that just shows how the music critics are all caught up in maintaining the status quo just as much as the big record companies.

It's well known that if you don't have a hit album or song everytime these days, you are dropped from your music label. That puts pressure on bands and artists to deliver music aimed squarely at the mass-markets and doesn't give them much room for experimentation and growth (which inherently means making the odd mistake and wrong turn). Prince has found a way to experiment and still come back to commercial music when he wants, and should be applauded for that, not thought of as 'crazy' for putting out low-key experiments in music.





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Reply #4 posted 03/17/06 7:30pm

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metalorange said:

I agree with Skywalker. They really try and dismiss his attempts to be an independent artist following a new business model (that many are now replicating) releasing challenging, non-commercial-aimed music that allows him to grow as an artist. Then when he purposely does something more commercial, it is a comeback from the wilderness, and suddenly they're all over him. I think that just shows how the music critics are all caught up in maintaining the status quo just as much as the big record companies.

It's well known that if you don't have a hit album or song everytime these days, you are dropped from your music label. That puts pressure on bands and artists to deliver music aimed squarely at the mass-markets and doesn't give them much room for experimentation and growth (which inherently means making the odd mistake and wrong turn). Prince has found a way to experiment and still come back to commercial music when he wants, and should be applauded for that, not thought of as 'crazy' for putting out low-key experiments in music.

Great points metalorange.
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Reply #5 posted 03/18/06 5:28am

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Thanks. I guess what I was trying to say was music critics are constantly crying out for more integrity, development and experimentation in music rather than the bland commercial pop they constantly get to review - then when someone like Prince does something experimental, different and non-commercial, he gets lambasted for it by the same critics and they go, 'oh why can't he do more commercial pop like he used to?'!
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Reply #6 posted 03/18/06 10:56am

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No, he got more when he was newer. Now that he is old, he's just yesterdays papers.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
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