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PrintableEmancipationLover said: On the other hand, what does radio usually play? The most popular stuff (that exactly is the problem imo).
There's no way the radio stations can impartially be playing the most popular stuff - if they are choosing what we get to hear before it is even popular! Radio managers are basically setting the trends of musical tastes by choosing what they consider will be popular - and then the song appears popular because it goes up the charts because of the radio play!! Talk about a self-fullfilling cycle! As Prince says on Jukebox (With A Heartbeat): Do the people even know what they want/If they never hear what they need? [Edited 3/2/06 13:13pm] | |
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metalorange said: EmancipationLover said: On the other hand, what does radio usually play? The most popular stuff (that exactly is the problem imo).
There's no way the radio stations can impartially be playing the most popular stuff - if they are choosing what we get to hear before it is even popular! Radio managers are basically setting the trends of musical tastes by choosing what they consider will be popular - and then the song appears popular because it goes up the charts because of the radio play!! Talk about a self-fullfilling cycle! As Prince says on Jukebox (With A Heartbeat): Do the people even know what they want/If they never hear what they need? [Edited 3/2/06 13:13pm] You definitely got a point here. On the other hand, there are examples of songs reaching high chart positions without any radio airplay. Radio controls a lot, but not all (yet). It really becomes a problem for artists whose fans are not the usual "single buyer", like Prince, The Rolling Stones and so on. They have problems appearing in the single charts, and missing radio airplay may be a part of that.  | |
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metalorange said: Getting the thread more or less back on topic and not about haters and lovers and positive posts and negative posts but pure discussion -
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Big Fan of Prince's but Black Sweat is weak.. I've listened to it twice. If it wasn't for the updates on chart positions, etc I wouldn't of even remembered it existed.. |
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Great entry based on lots of downloads...there was a time that radio would HAVE to play a song that is a Hot Shot Debut in what is almost the upper reaches of the chart. Sadly that time is gone. All good things they say never last... | |
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Farfunknugin said: Big Fan of Prince's but Black Sweat is weak.. I've listened to it twice. If it wasn't for the updates on chart positions, etc I wouldn't of even remembered it existed..
What's your favorite Prince album and song...Just asking.... | |
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sosgemini said: EmancipationLover said: That's not what I meant. First of all, I don't think that the original comment ruined the thread. Enough people posted afterwards. All I meant is that we had numerous "Prince has lost it", "When did (whatever) go", "He's old" kind of threads within the last few months - not to mention those who exactly knew that "3121" was giong to be a disaster just by listening to the first sound snippet of TAC. Those who called for more "positivity" during that period were often overheard. Now that things seem to take a different route, isn't it somehow understandable that some of those people tend to make some more "edgier" remarks on the negativity addicts? Btw, the post wasn't even directed to a specific person... but note that one comment is directed at the art/product which is released to be critiqued (ie, enjoyed or not) ....while the other is directed at individual participants of this communities personal opinion.... you think thats fair? and my ruin statement was not directed towards the thread..but moreso the mood of the thread. cha know what i mean? Your constant jabs at the "mood" of the thread appear to be snarking as you called it. So, its OK to come on here and continuously bash the song and its chart potential, but its not OK celebrate its slight success. Shit, please tell me when we are allowed to be sarcastic, negative, or celebritory. I just want to know when its cool. (Insert something clever here) | |
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DarkKnight1 said: sosgemini said: but note that one comment is directed at the art/product which is released to be critiqued (ie, enjoyed or not) ....while the other is directed at individual participants of this communities personal opinion.... you think thats fair? and my ruin statement was not directed towards the thread..but moreso the mood of the thread. cha know what i mean? Your constant jabs at the "mood" of the thread appear to be snarking as you called it. So, its OK to come on here and continuously bash the song and its chart potential, but its not OK celebrate its slight success. Shit, please tell me when we are allowed to be sarcastic, negative, or celebritory. I just want to know when its cool. since when is sh*tting on other opinions celebratory?  Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: DarkKnight1 said: Your constant jabs at the "mood" of the thread appear to be snarking as you called it. So, its OK to come on here and continuously bash the song and its chart potential, but its not OK celebrate its slight success. Shit, please tell me when we are allowed to be sarcastic, negative, or celebritory. I just want to know when its cool. since when is sh*tting on other opinions celebratory? Just tell whats more exceptable. Shitting on Black Sweat and calling everyone stupid fams for expecting it to do well on the charts.....or.....simply pointing out the facts that it opened well on the charts and that some crow will be served. Enlighten me. (Insert something clever here) | |
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DarkKnight1 said: sosgemini said: since when is sh*tting on other opinions celebratory? Just tell whats more exceptable. Shitting on Black Sweat and calling everyone stupid fams for expecting it to do well on the charts.....or.....simply pointing out the facts that it opened well on the charts and that some crow will be served. Enlighten me. your the only one using "fam" in this thread.. 
just be happy and celebrate the positive..blacksweat is doing well...its a good thing. and before someone fits out..im not telling you what to do as a mod, im just trying to share how to keep it positive. out..done with the threadjacking... Space for sale... | |
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sosgemini said: DarkKnight1 said: Just tell whats more exceptable. Shitting on Black Sweat and calling everyone stupid fams for expecting it to do well on the charts.....or.....simply pointing out the facts that it opened well on the charts and that some crow will be served. Enlighten me. your the only one using "fam" in this thread..
just be happy and celebrate the positive..blacksweat is doing well...its a good thing. and before someone fits out..im not telling you what to do as a mod, im just trying to share how to keep it positive. out..done with the threadjacking... Agreed, no more threadjacking. Just defending my first post. Thanks for the positivity lesson. Ill work on it. (Insert something clever here) | |
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If you debut aboce 80 you know you have a hot track!
Laffy Taffy went to #1 and debuted at 99. | |
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Didn't "Call my name" start way down there? 'A pillow covered in all our tears' | |
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actionthisday said: Didn't "Call my name" start way down there?
yes but in that case Call My Name charted on radio airplay alone..if black sweat had that same kind of airplay it might be in the top 40 Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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renfield said: newpower99 said: On a side note .... this is 2006 and the 2 Top debuts are #60 Prince , Black Sweat and #70 Madonna , Sorry ...how cool is that , lets hear it for the old timers !
Hey and don't forget, Bon Jovi landed in the top 40 with their new country song (!!!). Now where the heck are A Flock of Seagulls? another thing i cant figure out is why they didnt for adds on Hot A/C stations with Black Sweat? that format should be Prince's new radio home along with Madonna,Bon Jovi and any other veteran acts..his is missing a lot of radio spins not going to that format Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3 | |
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Let me get this straight about the US charts:
1. Prince has the number 1 "selling" single this week. 2. He's getting next to fuck-all airplay. 3. In the old rules where sales mattered this song would already be a big hit (i.e sales alone). 4. Because radio stations wont play the song it has probably peaked at 60. 5. Taking into account the fact that radio wont play a Prince song, even if it is the top seller, then he will NEVER have an US hit single again. Is this correct? When I read about the evils of drinking, I gave up reading. | |
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Where did you get the big seller jive? The song is tanking. All you others say Hell Yea!!  | |
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Black Sweat is ahead of the new Madonna song, the new LL Cool J song and the new 50 Cent song, so there is hope. But you know where I stand, this is his sellout move, since Black Sweat is such a shitty song. All you others say Hell Yea!! | |
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2freaky4church1 said: Black Sweat is ahead of the new Madonna song, the new LL Cool J song and the new 50 Cent song, so there is hope. But you know where I stand, this is his sellout move, since Black Sweat is such a shitty song.
What to you is not a sellout move? What should Prince be doing instead? I'm not trying to knock you, I'd really like to know where you are coming from. I for one think that's not bad at all for a debut. I pray he goes higher on the chart. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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At radioandrecords.com, which is kind of like Billboard magazine but I think more of an radio industry magazine, Beautiful, loved and blessed by Tamar feautring Prince is #22 this week on the urban AC national airplay chart. It was #24 last week. Also, Black Sweat was 3rd on the Urban AC new and active list. | |
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Mazerati said: Black Sweat has just debut'd at #60 on the billboard hot 100 singles chart for this week http://billboardradio.com...o/4160.jsp and by the way is the "hot shot debut" of the week!
nice! [Edited 3/1/06 21:23pm] Singles as in bought internet singles? Or played on the radio? Straight Jacket Funk Affair
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I'm sure it will hit the top 10. "Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."
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rainbowchild said: I'm sure it will hit the top 10.
At least i hope so; the young folks have to show SOME RESPECT again (or they should know who that guy is...) lol --> and some other artists need a kick in the ass like it's 1999... | |
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