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PrintableJPW said: HalluRain said: You say that as if it's a bad thing! 
It's way too early on a Sunday morning, I've thrown my back out and there's nothing but infomercials on TV. I've got time on my hands!  I really was trying to let you know it was appreciated. Folks sometimes like to bring you down a notch for claiming to know something 'round these here parts y'see.   I've gone to find myself. If I should return before I get back, keep me here. | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: JPW said: Ok clearly you are not a musician, so I'll go easy on ya. Improvisation does not mean only in the idiom of blues riffs and swapping lines.... or even playing just what comes off the top of your head. It is spontaneous composition, therefore one usually draws on prior musical knowledge in order to compose on the spot. In other words, improvisation is taking certain musical knowledge and then creating something new with the parts, spontaneously. So UM, YES, Prince DOES definitely do this. Sorry, but I play music for a living and Prince is very precise, but not entirely rehearsed. Here's an example: Compare the SNL Fury to that of the Brit Awards. NOT THE SAME. Do you think he rehearses different solos for songs? NOPE. He has a basic structure and certain modes which he sticks to for the tonality of the song, but he plays around those chords and modes with ad libs. In other words he IMPROVISES. As for playing blues, you mustn't have seen a lot of live Prince cause he's quite partial to sticking blues numbers in there! Just because he's not into "trading fours" and stuff, doesn't mean he rehearses every note! . [Edited 2/25/06 18:18pm] WOW I don't care if you play a bag pipe with your butt hole, everything about Prince is rehearsed and it is documented. Prince even practices his facial expressions for soloing, etc. Let's get things in perspective, Prince is about image just as much as he is about music. He picked a guitar becasue it was pretty. What Prince does is called soloing, not improvising. Prince is too scared to trade licks with anynone and even be on stage with other guitar players besides his lackeys or some blow off like Lenny. Prince was intimated by Dez and Andre, and stole so much from them during those times, Im pretty sure Prince sends them roalty checks. There was nothing improvised about Prince's RRHOF solo. Everything was pre-planned and pre written as everything he does. From his name change to the release date for 3121 two years ago. From him now throwing his guitars around like a clown at a circus. It would be cool if it was not planned. Does Prince improvise, sure but not alot. He improvised more in his younger days, his playing was far more sloppy and spontaneous in his youth. Now, Prince's playing has turned into a SNL mockery of himself. Well at least he is learning how to use the whammy bar with the worst of them, specially with those looped effects he is using these days. Everything about Prince is calculated, his playing is getting so stale and predictable these days becasue he is not that great of an improve player, and he isolates himself from other guitar players. There are several reason why Prince is not respected as a guitar player, and this is one of them. There is a reason kids are not out trying to capture what Prince does on guitar becasue his tone is never consistent, and his best solos are not even played or written by him. His lead playing is suspect, and his rhythm guitar abilities are far superior to his lead ablities. And even with that his rhythm abilities are not all that phenomonial. Prince will never release a guitar driven album, becasue he can't. He surrounds himself with lesser skilled muscians. Andre and Dez are not around to remind Prince that he needs to approach things a lil different. Even L. Hill put out a guitar driven CD and DVD and she only knows 5 chords. Everything about Prince is calculated, from him going out to search for the next Emeniem, to him now looking for the his Badu/Angie Stone. From him saying the exact same things at every concert, and telling the exact same jokes to his new Ike and Tina Turner revue. Prince is like Jay Z to Nas when it comes to playing lead guitar. By the time you read this, I bet Prince will be playing Let's Go Crazy/followed by Purple Rain. And his solo for Purple Rain will still be played in it's orignal key and tempo. Now go play your flute, and don't forget to polish up when your finished. Now, go practice and study some real players, son. UTTER SHITE!!!!!WHAT PLANET U ON????? u know u want 2...so do it
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JPW said: Graycap23 said: I agree with about 80% of this but to say that Prince is lacking in guitar skills is a bit over the top. -Mg Sorry dudes, you're way off. Rehearsals are in, obviously, but Prince is totally an improviser as well as a rehearsed musician. 
I have nothing more to say, except this: Graycap I have played music my whole damn life, since I was six and I am now 27 and playing full-time with seasoned musicians. I WENT to a music school for Chrissakes. I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about being so completely WRONG and you should think twice before condescending to someone on a website who you have no actual idea about as a person let alone in this case an actual musician who plays a number of instruments well himself. Prince is WELL REHEARSED, that much is clear, but he also can IMPROVISE very well, too. He DOES tend to rely on certain things, that much is also clear, but he also throws in a lot spontaneity, especially live. See two shows back to back and you'll see it's not totally by the book each time. 
What you have said about his rhythm vs. his lead is just insane, by the way. Prince is an excellent lead player who definitely goes for however he is feeling at the time... and if you can't hear that, clean your ears out and listen to what his LEFT HAND is doing, if you want to get technical. You're not really listening apparently... every single thing you have said here is just incorrect and that's not opinion, that's a fact which, I'm sorry dude, I will not debate any further. I'm pretty sure you're baiting me here anyway. Put a fork in this one, it's done. . [Edited 2/26/06 0:42am] Maybe I was up to late last nite. I'm in agreement with you so I don't know how we got on this road. Prince is a bad MF either way you slice it. I'm a musician as well so I know EXACTLy what you are talking about. I was up til 4:00 am so I guess I was delirious.....-Mg | |
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JPW said: Graycap23 said: I agree with about 80% of this but to say that Prince is lacking in guitar skills is a bit over the top. -Mg Sorry dudes, you're way off. Rehearsals are in, obviously, but Prince is totally an improviser as well as a rehearsed musician.
I have nothing more to say, except this: Graycap I have played music my whole damn life, since I was six and I am now 27 and playing full-time with seasoned musicians. I WENT to a music school for Chrissakes. I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about being so completely WRONG and you should think twice before condescending to someone on a website who you have no actual idea about as a person let alone in this case an actual musician who plays a number of instruments well himself. Prince is WELL REHEARSED, that much is clear, but he also can IMPROVISE very well, too. He DOES tend to rely on certain things, that much is also clear, but he also throws in a lot spontaneity, especially live. See two shows back to back and you'll see it's not totally by the book each time.
What you have said about his rhythm vs. his lead is just insane, by the way. Prince is an excellent lead player who definitely goes for however he is feeling at the time... and if you can't hear that, clean your ears out and listen to what his LEFT HAND is doing, if you want to get technical. You're not really listening apparently... every single thing you have said here is just incorrect and that's not opinion, that's a fact which, I'm sorry dude, I will not debate any further. I'm pretty sure you're baiting me here anyway. Put a fork in this one, it's done. . [Edited 2/26/06 0:42am] Talking to a Prince fanatic is pointless. I have been to several concerts back to back, and he does the same thing, even tells the same jokes, plays the same licks, etc from the nite before, and even the same setlist, and even wears the same exact clothes. Sure Prince is doing some things with his left hand, but he is no Angus Young. Strip those effects from Prince and he is Andre 3000 on guitar. You don't want to get technical, son. I know midgets that have played ball with Michael Jordan, and several guys that were coached by Dean Smith, and they can't hoop for crap. So, I don't care if you played for 100 years or 1. Get technical then. Let's see what you learned at music school. (LOL) If not then stop your fingers from typing, cause you don't have anything else to say. I thought you were unbiased enough to bring some clear insight into this discussion, but I was wrong. I think your listening a little bit too much with your purple flute, and your moonwraps on your ears. Now, next time respect your elders. | |
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JPW said: Graycap23 said: I agree with about 80% of this but to say that Prince is lacking in guitar skills is a bit over the top. -Mg Sorry dudes, you're way off. Rehearsals are in, obviously, but Prince is totally an improviser as well as a rehearsed musician.
I have nothing more to say, except this: Graycap I have played music my whole damn life, since I was six and I am now 27 and playing full-time with seasoned musicians. I WENT to a music school for Chrissakes. I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about being so completely WRONG and you should think twice before condescending to someone on a website who you have no actual idea about as a person let alone in this case an actual musician who plays a number of instruments well himself. Prince is WELL REHEARSED, that much is clear, but he also can IMPROVISE very well, too. He DOES tend to rely on certain things, that much is also clear, but he also throws in a lot spontaneity, especially live. See two shows back to back and you'll see it's not totally by the book each time.
What you have said about his rhythm vs. his lead is just insane, by the way. Prince is an excellent lead player who definitely goes for however he is feeling at the time... and if you can't hear that, clean your ears out and listen to what his LEFT HAND is doing, if you want to get technical. You're not really listening apparently... every single thing you have said here is just incorrect and that's not opinion, that's a fact which, I'm sorry dude, I will not debate any further. I'm pretty sure you're baiting me here anyway. Put a fork in this one, it's done. . [Edited 2/26/06 0:42am] JPW you kicked his butt!!!! I don't know how someone can argue against the musicianship of Prince. Any music critic, journalist, musician will at least acknowledge the man's obvious skills. There is so much documented history in favor of your analysis. Prince has probably done over 500 concerts, thousands of hours of studio time, 40 years of guitar playing, a vast catalog, an encyclepedic memory of music, an amazing ear and the musically complex mind that can imagine different musical concepts simulataneously. The man is never satisfied and has an unbelievable musical drive and work ethic. While his albums have been erratic since the 90's, he has always been a relevation on the stage for his craftmanship, creativity and IMPROVISATION. Did anyone see his acoustic set that was totally different every night of the Musicology Tour? | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: Talking to a Prince fanatic is pointless.
I have been to several concerts back to back, and he does the same thing, even tells the same jokes, plays the same licks, etc from the nite before, and even the same setlist, and even wears the same exact clothes. Sure Prince is doing some things with his left hand, but he is no Angus Young. Strip those effects from Prince and he is Andre 3000 on guitar. You don't want to get technical, son. I know midgets that have played ball with Michael Jordan, and several guys that were coached by Dean Smith, and they can't hoop for crap. So, I don't care if you played for 100 years or 1. Get technical then. Let's see what you learned at music school. (LOL) If not then stop your fingers from typing, cause you don't have anything else to say. I thought you were unbiased enough to bring some clear insight into this discussion, but I was wrong. I think your listening a little bit too much with your purple flute, and your moonwraps on your ears. Now, next time respect your elders. Dude, do you realise that each time you post on this thread you're reputation as an ignorant !@#$ grows a little more?
JPW knows what he's talking about. We're not saying that Prince doesn't play the same setlist for each tour, nor are we saying that he doesn't play the same licks etc. But hell, who does? Even Miles Davis used to play the same setlist and licks over a lengthy tour. What we are saying is that as a soloist, Prince improvises. Sure, he may play the "Purple Rain" or "Let's Go Crazy" solos note-for-note to keep the crowd happy, but generally speaking he doesn't learn each solo note-for-note. Have you ever seen an aftershow of his? Shit... dude can jam for hours and the band just follow him. If that's not improvisation then what is? Toejam @ Peach & Black Podcast: http://peachandblack.podbean.com
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toejam said: workingupahiyellasweat said: Talking to a Prince fanatic is pointless.
I have been to several concerts back to back, and he does the same thing, even tells the same jokes, plays the same licks, etc from the nite before, and even the same setlist, and even wears the same exact clothes. Sure Prince is doing some things with his left hand, but he is no Angus Young. Strip those effects from Prince and he is Andre 3000 on guitar. You don't want to get technical, son. I know midgets that have played ball with Michael Jordan, and several guys that were coached by Dean Smith, and they can't hoop for crap. So, I don't care if you played for 100 years or 1. Get technical then. Let's see what you learned at music school. (LOL) If not then stop your fingers from typing, cause you don't have anything else to say. I thought you were unbiased enough to bring some clear insight into this discussion, but I was wrong. I think your listening a little bit too much with your purple flute, and your moonwraps on your ears. Now, next time respect your elders. Dude, do you realise that each time you post on this thread you're reputation as an ignorant !@#$ grows a little more?
JPW knows what he's talking about. We're not saying that Prince doesn't play the same setlist for each tour, nor are we saying that he doesn't play the same licks etc. But hell, who does? Even Miles Davis used to play the same setlist and licks over a lengthy tour. What we are saying is that as a soloist, Prince improvises. Sure, he may play the "Purple Rain" or "Let's Go Crazy" solos note-for-note to keep the crowd happy, but generally speaking he doesn't learn each solo note-for-note. Have you ever seen an aftershow of his? Shit... dude can jam for hours and the band just follow him. If that's not improvisation then what is? Does Prince improvise? Sure Does Will Smith freestyle? Sure | |
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mr. workling up i read your post ,you
even made me think,but when you compared prince to angus young you put all the things you said to nothing. i mean how can you even dare to comper prince to ac/dc guy. the only scale angus ever play is pentatonic. you also said that prince never trades licks live with other players. well this is a list of players who played live with prince: santana-(he played few times with prince ,they traded licks) eric clapton -(both played guitar live on purple rain on one of the 1985 purple rain tour shows) george benson-i have a recording ( glam slam boogie) i think these 3 are enough. | |
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Graycap23 said: JPW said: Sorry dudes, you're way off. Rehearsals are in, obviously, but Prince is totally an improviser as well as a rehearsed musician.
I have nothing more to say, except this: Graycap I have played music my whole damn life, since I was six and I am now 27 and playing full-time with seasoned musicians. I WENT to a music school for Chrissakes. I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about being so completely WRONG and you should think twice before condescending to someone on a website who you have no actual idea about as a person let alone in this case an actual musician who plays a number of instruments well himself. Prince is WELL REHEARSED, that much is clear, but he also can IMPROVISE very well, too. He DOES tend to rely on certain things, that much is also clear, but he also throws in a lot spontaneity, especially live. See two shows back to back and you'll see it's not totally by the book each time.
What you have said about his rhythm vs. his lead is just insane, by the way. Prince is an excellent lead player who definitely goes for however he is feeling at the time... and if you can't hear that, clean your ears out and listen to what his LEFT HAND is doing, if you want to get technical. You're not really listening apparently... every single thing you have said here is just incorrect and that's not opinion, that's a fact which, I'm sorry dude, I will not debate any further. I'm pretty sure you're baiting me here anyway. Put a fork in this one, it's done. . [Edited 2/26/06 0:42am] Maybe I was up to late last nite. I'm in agreement with you so I don't know how we got on this road. Prince is a bad MF either way you slice it. I'm a musician as well so I know EXACTLy what you are talking about. I was up til 4:00 am so I guess I was delirious.....-Mg Damn I thought I posted this already, but I meant to say that I was actually meaning to direct my comments towards workingupahiyellasweat. Anyhoo, sorry I accidentally got you two mixed up.  | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: JPW said: Sorry dudes, you're way off. Rehearsals are in, obviously, but Prince is totally an improviser as well as a rehearsed musician.
I have nothing more to say, except this: Graycap I have played music my whole damn life, since I was six and I am now 27 and playing full-time with seasoned musicians. I WENT to a music school for Chrissakes. I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about being so completely WRONG and you should think twice before condescending to someone on a website who you have no actual idea about as a person let alone in this case an actual musician who plays a number of instruments well himself. Prince is WELL REHEARSED, that much is clear, but he also can IMPROVISE very well, too. He DOES tend to rely on certain things, that much is also clear, but he also throws in a lot spontaneity, especially live. See two shows back to back and you'll see it's not totally by the book each time.
What you have said about his rhythm vs. his lead is just insane, by the way. Prince is an excellent lead player who definitely goes for however he is feeling at the time... and if you can't hear that, clean your ears out and listen to what his LEFT HAND is doing, if you want to get technical. You're not really listening apparently... every single thing you have said here is just incorrect and that's not opinion, that's a fact which, I'm sorry dude, I will not debate any further. I'm pretty sure you're baiting me here anyway. Put a fork in this one, it's done. . [Edited 2/26/06 0:42am] Talking to a Prince fanatic is pointless. I have been to several concerts back to back, and he does the same thing, even tells the same jokes, plays the same licks, etc from the nite before, and even the same setlist, and even wears the same exact clothes. Sure Prince is doing some things with his left hand, but he is no Angus Young. Strip those effects from Prince and he is Andre 3000 on guitar. You don't want to get technical, son. I know midgets that have played ball with Michael Jordan, and several guys that were coached by Dean Smith, and they can't hoop for crap. So, I don't care if you played for 100 years or 1. Get technical then. Let's see what you learned at music school. (LOL) If not then stop your fingers from typing, cause you don't have anything else to say. I thought you were unbiased enough to bring some clear insight into this discussion, but I was wrong. I think your listening a little bit too much with your purple flute, and your moonwraps on your ears. Now, next time respect your elders. Elders? Well excuse me but piss off then, dad.
Angus Young primarily plays fast picking pentatonic blues with his RIGHT HAND. You have NO CLUE, my friend. Prince plays fast modal and chromatic runs mixed with pentonic, melodic and harmonic minors with his LEFT. Realise that you have no idea and just move on, okay? Andre 3000 surely is no guitar player but unless you've heard some of the boots of Prince playing with Benson and even some of his jazzier demos with Madhouse et al, you're clearly on fucking Mars with this shit, comparing Andre to Prince. Quit baiting and hating, you're wasting everyone's time, talking out your ass without having the knowledge to back it up. It's clear you haven't heard exactly how Prince runs rings around many, many other rock guitarists technically and soulfully, otherwise you wouldn't even bother with these low-brow comments.
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This dude is hilarious. What the fuck has Michael Jordan got to do with anything? I'll talk music theory with you any day! It's more interesting throwing basketball, midgets, purple flutes and moonwraps in, just for the hell of it.
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jdcxc said: JPW said: Sorry dudes, you're way off. Rehearsals are in, obviously, but Prince is totally an improviser as well as a rehearsed musician.
I have nothing more to say, except this: Graycap I have played music my whole damn life, since I was six and I am now 27 and playing full-time with seasoned musicians. I WENT to a music school for Chrissakes. I'm sorry that you feel so strongly about being so completely WRONG and you should think twice before condescending to someone on a website who you have no actual idea about as a person let alone in this case an actual musician who plays a number of instruments well himself. Prince is WELL REHEARSED, that much is clear, but he also can IMPROVISE very well, too. He DOES tend to rely on certain things, that much is also clear, but he also throws in a lot spontaneity, especially live. See two shows back to back and you'll see it's not totally by the book each time.
What you have said about his rhythm vs. his lead is just insane, by the way. Prince is an excellent lead player who definitely goes for however he is feeling at the time... and if you can't hear that, clean your ears out and listen to what his LEFT HAND is doing, if you want to get technical. You're not really listening apparently... every single thing you have said here is just incorrect and that's not opinion, that's a fact which, I'm sorry dude, I will not debate any further. I'm pretty sure you're baiting me here anyway. Put a fork in this one, it's done. . [Edited 2/26/06 0:42am] JPW you kicked his butt!!!! I don't know how someone can argue against the musicianship of Prince. Any music critic, journalist, musician will at least acknowledge the man's obvious skills. There is so much documented history in favor of your analysis. Prince has probably done over 500 concerts, thousands of hours of studio time, 40 years of guitar playing, a vast catalog, an encyclepedic memory of music, an amazing ear and the musically complex mind that can imagine different musical concepts simulataneously. The man is never satisfied and has an unbelievable musical drive and work ethic. While his albums have been erratic since the 90's, he has always been a relevation on the stage for his craftmanship, creativity and IMPROVISATION. Did anyone see his acoustic set that was totally different every night of the Musicology Tour? Exactly. And so we get a comparison between Prince and Andre fucking 3000 and not the other way around. Somehow Michael Jordan comes into the equation too, that should tell 'em! Then we hear Prince improvises the same way Will fucking Smith of all people, free-styles.
Some people should not even log on to the intardnet. 
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JPW said: jdcxc said: JPW you kicked his butt!!!! I don't know how someone can argue against the musicianship of Prince. Any music critic, journalist, musician will at least acknowledge the man's obvious skills. There is so much documented history in favor of your analysis. Prince has probably done over 500 concerts, thousands of hours of studio time, 40 years of guitar playing, a vast catalog, an encyclepedic memory of music, an amazing ear and the musically complex mind that can imagine different musical concepts simulataneously. The man is never satisfied and has an unbelievable musical drive and work ethic. While his albums have been erratic since the 90's, he has always been a relevation on the stage for his craftmanship, creativity and IMPROVISATION. Did anyone see his acoustic set that was totally different every night of the Musicology Tour? Exactly. And so we get a comparison between Prince and Andre fucking 3000 and not the other way around. Somehow Michael Jordan comes into the equation too, that should tell 'em! Then we hear Prince improvises the same way Will fucking Smith of all people, free-styles.
Some people should not even log on to the intardnet.
. [Edited 2/26/06 20:32pm] It's obvious you only have seen Prince play. There are several tapes and discussion on Angus playing solos with only his left hand, with no looped and outrageous effects like our legandary purple 80's relic. Prince's best solos were not even composed or played by him on his own albums. Prince is a better bass player, and was a better drummer then he is now on the guitar. At least his bass playing is still fresh, I can't say the same for his 90's output and everything after TRC. He is too woried about perfect SOLOING, and thin girly metal tone, and how he is going to use the newest gadget guitar, for some silly tone ala Te Amo Boringzone. I am more interested in him playing behind Tamar these days, instead of hearing his uninspired lead playing. Does Prince improve? Does Andre 3000 of Outkast freestyle? [Edited 2/26/06 23:12pm] | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: Prince's best solos were not even composed or played by him on his own albums. This quote says it all really. What are you doing on a Prince website? You totally took my left hand/right hand thing out of its original meaning, btw. Of course both guitarists use both hands and they can both play with only their left occasionally too (for Prince, see "Fury" on SNL; Angus see "Thunderstruck"), the point is though, that Prince can play stuff with his left that Angus mostly can't or perhaps doesn't choose to. But really I'll go for the former because Prince's "girly" tone is just one facet of his many abilities on guitar. If you listen to the boots and even some official releases you'll hear he's quite adept with some complicated jazz runs a la Wes Montgomery/George Benson, that Angus I doubt could pull off easily, as well as the so-called "girly" rock tone you talk about.
So get your facts straight, alright, before you start calling people "son" and asking them to respect you for no apparent reason. There's nothing left for me to say here. Considering the ridiculous amount of literature and recorded material stacked up against your above quoted statement, you haven't a leg to stand on. . [Edited 2/27/06 3:14am] | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: JPW said: Exactly. And so we get a comparison between Prince and Andre fucking 3000 and not the other way around. Somehow Michael Jordan comes into the equation too, that should tell 'em! Then we hear Prince improvises the same way Will fucking Smith of all people, free-styles.
Some people should not even log on to the intardnet.
. [Edited 2/26/06 20:32pm] It's obvious you only have seen Prince play. There are several tapes and discussion on Angus playing solos with only his left hand, with no looped and outrageous effects like our legandary purple 80's relic. Prince's best solos were not even composed or played by him on his own albums. Prince is a better bass player, and was a better drummer then he is now on the guitar. At least his bass playing is still fresh, I can't say the same for his 90's output and everything after TRC. He is too woried about perfect SOLOING, and thin girly metal tone, and how he is going to use the newest gadget guitar, for some silly tone ala Te Amo Boringzone. I am more interested in him playing behind Tamar these days, instead of hearing his uninspired lead playing. Does Prince improve? Does Andre 3000 of Outkast freestyle? [Edited 2/26/06 23:12pm] This is bait material. You clearly don't know what u are talking about. -Mg | |
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angus better then prince
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thebanishedone said: angus better then prince
hahahahahahaha Al Dimeola >>>>> Prince Brian May >>>>>Prince Nile Rodgers >>>>>Prince Jack White >>>>>Prince Kurt Cobain >>>>>Prince Frank Zappa >>>>>X10 Prince Eddie Hazel>>>>>Prince Michael Hampton>>>>>Prince Dez>>>>>Prince Andre Cymone>>>>>Prince James Brown's Vault >>>>> Prince's vault the list goes on Prince is a mid tier guitar player, top tier multi instrumentalist get over it | |
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workingup...get lost,i was intersted in your post but when you
said that prince is andre 3000 on guitar and that angus is better then prince you lost all your credibility. nobody will ever take you for serius on the board | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: thebanishedone said: angus better then prince
hahahahahahaha Al Dimeola >>>>> Prince Brian May >>>>>Prince Nile Rodgers >>>>>Prince Jack White >>>>>Prince Kurt Cobain >>>>>Prince Frank Zappa >>>>>X10 Prince Eddie Hazel>>>>>Prince Michael Hampton>>>>>Prince Dez>>>>>Prince Andre Cymone>>>>>Prince James Brown's Vault >>>>> Prince's vault the list goes on Prince is a mid tier guitar player, top tier multi instrumentalist get over it Hummmm I own 200 plus cd's from Prince and less than 20 from all of these guys combined. U do the math. | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: thebanishedone said: angus better then prince
hahahahahahaha Al Dimeola >>>>> Prince Brian May >>>>>Prince Nile Rodgers >>>>>Prince Jack White >>>>>Prince Kurt Cobain >>>>>Prince Frank Zappa >>>>>X10 Prince Eddie Hazel>>>>>Prince Michael Hampton>>>>>Prince Dez>>>>>Prince Andre Cymone>>>>>Prince James Brown's Vault >>>>> Prince's vault the list goes on Prince is a mid tier guitar player, top tier multi instrumentalist get over it get a life. | |
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thebanishedone said: angus better then prince
hahahahahahaha Oh, now wait Just a minute here. Angus Young is a PHENOMENAL rock/blues player. That's nothing to laugh at. I love Prince's ryhthm playing, but there are very few solos I can point to which I thought were great. Angus is definately IN LEAUGE w/ Prince guitar wise. He's got soul all over the place, and in many cases what he does he can do better than Prince. Prince is FLASHY where angus grooves. [Edited 2/28/06 4:46am] | |
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workingupahiyellasweat:
workingupahiyellasweat: your posts are probably the greatest piece of sh.. I have ever read on the org! And I am not trying to support Prince here, I am no crazy prince fan and I am far from believing he is one of the best guitarists ever as some people on this forum do! But frankly, you just do not know what you are talking about because it indeed seems that you have never played any instrument but still think you should provide us with your amazingly clever views... The point is (and it is a very simple one for anyone -like me and many others here- who plays guitar): like thousands of other guitarists, Prince IS improvising, which, as JPW said, means composition on the spot based on prior hard training, not "pure improvisation". Actualisation pure improvisation simply does not exist, although some free jazz records have not been not too far from that. | |
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And BTW, claiming that Kurt Cobain is a better guitarist than Prince is just so funny (well, pathetic if you prefer).
Technically, Kurt Cobain is miles away from a standard professional guitarist. But he has his style, which is actually why I like his guitar playing. On this front, however, Prince also has his style (come on, even if he stole Dez' licks, do you really think Dez has ever played such beautiful solos as, say, Just my imagination Rotterdam 1988??? We are talking about beauty and style here, not technique) but he is way better technically and can play many more styles. In a word: he is a better guitarist (which once again does not mean he is among the greatest ever) | |
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Jeff Beck >>>>> Prince
Eddie Van Halen >>>>> Prince Bonnie Rait >>>>> Prince | |
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workingupahiyellasweat said: Jeff Beck >>>>> Prince
Eddie Van Halen >>>>> Prince Bonnie Rait >>>>> Prince Kermit the Frog >>>>> Prince Right? | |
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marxisreal said: workingupahiyellasweat said: Jeff Beck >>>>> Prince
Eddie Van Halen >>>>> Prince Bonnie Rait >>>>> Prince Kermit the Frog >>>>> Prince Right? "I'm 2 far right 2 get left goin' sideways, Jack" - Prince [Edited 2/28/06 16:39pm] | |
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Don't forget:
workingupahiyellasweat >>>>> DrD DrD >>>>> Prince | |
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This whole thread confuses me. | |
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what is confusing-topic or discussion??? | |
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