Twice now I have tried to point out the evermore often sightings of Prince displaying the symbol for the world to see. Although my weak leading questions had quickly been glossed over I had found a couple of others talking about it too. However this doesn’t even begin to examine the deep meaning of this recent turn of events. That’s why I created this Thread.

CandaceS said:

rudeboynpg said:

During the recent Saturday Night Live performance prince made his back up singers pose with Symbol Tambourines. Just the other day pictures were taken of Prince, in Pimping the blingbling, as it would be, of the Symbol around his neck. To those that don’t follow the meaning into things these two events hold no barring even being made into a thread, however to those that wish to or do not the cryptic meanings system consciously or unconsciously, the alignment of these events holds deeply meaningful impact into the state of mind and life of Prince.

First off one must understand the meaning of the symbol to Prince. Not that this can truly be done, but we must try. Prince is loosely quoted as saying that the symbol was given to him by god or was a name given to him by god or was what god called him on several occasions. Thus the two most important elements rise to the top. The Symbol has to do with the relationship Prince and God have.

If you are unaware of Prince’s relationship with God, I would have to ask are you new here? Prince is been singing about his relationship with god for decades. In such songs as Lovesexy and Thunder you get an insight into their relationship and the sense they speak with one another. If you have a hard time believing in such a exchange, hey sorry because it’s been happening to me too since I was a child, and maybe you yourself need to start listening within yourself. However I don’t wish to digress.


So, what we have here is a return to the symbol that God has given to prince in through Prince’s relationship with the voice of god within himself. This event is more frequent. It is very exciting. It has much meaning. However I am not about to spill secrets of prince here, thus discuss.

Universaluv said:

exactly what I thought - it looks cool, he can wear it.

Universaluv said:

yeah I was afraid of that.
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How come sometimes you capitalize the pronoun "God", and other times you don't?

And also, I'm wondering how is it that you feel you have any right or any authority to speak on - or to analyze, or to desconstruct - Prince's private, personal relationship with God? I don't understand. How is it your business? Why are you so involved and invested in another person's personal relationship with God?

....I mean NO !!!!!

WillyWonka said:

why do you make chocolate?

Well,

I can only hope this means Prince is returning to some esoteric exchange between him and the Divine that is free and artistic as opposed to stifling and restrictive.

I hope he is going to trust himself to interpret who God is and not turn to oracles like Graham and Watchtower literature.

Prince once seemed a free-spirited Bohemian who could see god in a falling leaf. That was beautiful. That he exchanged that for a Bible-bound philosophy was travesty.

MickG said:

Making candy is my contribution towards a more harmonious society - eating chocolate gives one something constructive to do with one's mouth other than pontificating about other peoples' intimate relationship with God.

SynthiaRose said:

nice example of religious intolerance!

Universaluv said:

Thanks. I hate religion.

Spookymuffin said:

It's like reading one of those message boards for the show "Lost". You think you have it all figured out, and then...BAM!!! It'll make your hair hurt if you let it...
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it's funny when one orger gets mad at another orger about questioning anything Prince does
what the hell is this site about then if we don't talk about Prince??

FREE SPEECH!! - FREE SPEECH!!
until someone says something we don't agree with
and then we want them to shut up
happens everytime
ye hyprocites

Snap said:

who's telling anyone to shut up?

Universaluv said:

Snap said:

free speech has nothing to do with talking about Prince. free speech is a government issue and is not applicable here or protected on this site.

just thought you would like to know.

Universaluv said:

COLD.

he has never abandoned the symbol.

He may be using it more recently than he has in the past few years, but as DarkKnight1 said, he never completely abandoned it. There's one in TRC booklet, and before the Musicology show began (as people were coming inside the arena) the large video screens played a loop of a spinning symbol. In fact I distinctly remember when he announced he was changing his name back to "Prince" that he said he would still use the symbol for promotional use etc.

I think in the past few years he's not been emphasising it because he wanted people to know that his name is "Prince" again. However, he's been back to that name for almost 5-6 years now. Most people (even non fans) know he's back to "Prince" (or have totally forgotten about the whole TAFKAP saga).

So I don't think there's any "almighty message" behind him using it more regularly again. It's just become like a cool thing again - like a subtle reminder to himself of his past (for better or worse)

WillyWonka said:

Reminds me of Catcher in the Rye


I was in Collections for a while. Int he office, we're quite an unruly bunch and we cuss a lot. My supervisor was a born again Christian. She would cuss occasionally but never in God's name. Me...quite often I would say Goddammnit or Jesus Christ. She would take offense. One day I blurted it out and she came to my desk and politely asked me to not say it again. I then asked her if She had ever read Catcher In The Rye. She said Yes. So I then advised her to imagine that the Jesus Christ's and Goddamn's I was blurting out were all lower case and therefore not a direct refrence to the Biblical subject. She didn't reply and just walked away. It was pretty funny. She never brought the subject up again.

Universaluv said:

I love it

SynthiaRose said:

Amen, sister! I couldnt' have said it better myself....

brothaluv said:

I always told prince he was closer to god when he was farer from religion.

MickG said:

You'd be closer to sanity when you stay farther away from the crack.





Oh, I keed, I keed. Or do I?

Universaluv said:

not you... you made me laugh... but i said what i said in reference to this post above: "I'm wondering how is it that you feel you have any right or any authority to speak on - or to analyze, or to desconstruct - Prince's private, personal relationship with God?" Free speech gives us that right. How can we say we believe in free speech if we say people shouldn't talk about things we don't agree with.

I love it.

dumbass said:

i was talking about a person who believes in the right of "free speech" hypocritically suggesting that another has no right to speak of a certain subject

otherwise, i understand your point

Snap said:

It was me you quoted, so I guess I'll respond.

First, please unbunch your righteous panties as far as the issue of free speech is concerned - because as far as I'm concerned, my issue isn't about trying to suppress anybody's right to free speech or censor what's discussed on this site. I think it's a good thing to be able to debate and discuss freely pretty much anything and any subject (although, I personally believe that, in certain situations, good taste and basic human respect dictate particular subjects are either avoided completely, or are at least very delicately handled, but that's just my own personal thoughts).

What I was attempting (evidently, poorly) to ask Mick was how it was he felt he could speak with SUCH AUTHORITY about such a personal, complex matter as another person's (Prince's) relationship to God, and how that relationship plays into how that person (Prince) navigates their life or makes the choices they do. I just do not understand how a mere fan - a fan WHO DOES NOT KNOW PRINCE - could feel comfortable making such definitive statements.

Theorizing or speculating is one thing, and I don't expect people to not do that.

However, A FAN SPEAKING ON THE BEHALF OF ANOTHER PERSON WHOM HE DOES NOT EVEN KNOW PERSONALLY, I find to be strange and I can't fathom how one could feel comfortable making pronouncements about another person whom they really don't have any real facts or intimate knowledge of. If Mick does know Prince personally, well then obviously that's different - but I dont' know that because Mick never answered my question/s.

Again, I was not trying to stifle anybody's free speech. But when somebody comes on here and acts as if they have a personal pipeline into Prince's brain and soul, I'd like some clarification or elaboration as to how they can feel so confident speaking for Prince that way.

Why is Prince wearing the symbol necklace again nowadays? Who knows? Maybe his doing so IS based in some deep, complex religious reason. Or maybe it's because he just felt like wearing it and it's nothing more meaningful than aesthetics. My point is NONE OF US REALLY KNOW. Mick's post came across in tone as if he really does "know" why it is Prince is doing what he's doing and as though he (Mick) feels he knows all about Prince's innermost feelings regarding God and religion and how both play into what Prince is doing these days, and I just wanted to know how it was Mick came to feel so confident in being able to make those pronouncements. That's all. Nothing to do with trying to censor or suppress anything.

I hope that clears things up a bit, at least in regards to why it was I asked Mick what I did.

MickG said:

Could you please explain yourself here?

I don't get why wearing the symbol would somehow signal a difference in his idea of God or gods...