who's james blunt???

2020 said:

Hey, you're right! Good catch...

And to add to the obvious.... it was all live.. no doubt...

altavista said:

Thanks Alta!
I knew there was something I didnt quite like about it the 1st listen and than when I finally watched it I was like ah-ha! Gotta ya P!

p.s. P U recovered very very well

Also did anyone notice how Tamar n the Twins were "lipsynching" on the floor at the end of LGC?

What the hell is going on with this thread?



Are you serious Jerky? I've watched it umpteen times now, and it's perfectly obvious that it's live. Prince is actually slightly under pitch when he sings the first line ("42 thousand feet above the sea"). Even if he was miming (which he isn't), there is no way in hell he would mime to an out of tune recording!

Maybe there is an audio sync problem with your copy?
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[Edited 2/17/06 20:32pm]

I haven't seen this clip but from all that I've read IT IS possible that he lip synched Te Amo. Here are my reasons why:


1) If Wendy and Lisa were performing with Prince; IT IS possible that they just couldn't get the chords to "Te Amo" down packed in the short amount of time they had to rehearse. In other words MAYBE THE BAND DIDN"T KNOW THE SONG.

2) Perhaps Prince was "told" by the record company to perform "Te Amo" to promote the single. MAYBE THIS IS WHY IT WAS IMPORTANT FOR HIM TO PERFORM THIS SONG AS OPPOSED TO PICKING ONE OF MANY OTHERS.

3) It's said that while he was in London he went into a studio to do some recording. I noticed no one said if Wendy, Lisa, Sheila or anyone joined him.
PERHAPS HE RECORDED THIS VERSION OF "TE AMO" PLAYING ALL INSTRUMENTS HIMSELF.
(which would also explain why the song sounded a bit out of tune, or like it hadn't been rehearsed enough (kinda reminded me of some of the stuff from First Ave. 1986)

4) Yall need to stop acting like Prince is the God of live performances (although he is ). Let us not forget his performance of "Pussy Control" on the VH 1 Fashion awards, 100% Lip Synched, even the bands music was pre recorded.

Sometimes Lip Synching happens, and it happens for good reason. We all know Prince can sing and play the hell outta any instrument.(Unlike Ashley Simpson who can only sing in a studio with her voice being run through a harmonizer Midi system). Maybe this was just something that HAD to be done. And we still have to give the man props anyway for NOT just turning on the CD. He still gave us a live "version" of the song. And the rest of the performance WAS all the way LIVE!

FanofDaFascist said:

Agreed!

Payt said:

Especially in this kind of song when there are many (live) guitar breaks etc. it would be too risky, if not possible.


Exactly!!!!







BTW Payt, It was probably a hired man who controlled the separate Linn Drum tracks (and other taped material like backround voices etc.) in Lovesexy- tour(remember our discussion about Bob George). That's how the background tape could still leave room for improvisation. In that particular Dutch(?) gig you could see that happen in several songs and jams
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FanofDaFascist said:

But if that were so, it would also apply to Fury as well. Why lipsynch one
but not the other? And if that were the problem, why would that mean Prince
would need to lypsynch? It doesn't make any sense.



Why? Firstly, I seriously doubt Universal 'tell' Prince to do anything, and
secondly, Te Amo Corazon was never released as a single in the UK, so why
promote something you can't buy and isn't on the radio. It looks more likely
that Black Sweat will be the first single release from 3121 as far as the UK
is concerned.



Anything's possible. But again, this doesn't really add up. Why bother with
that particular song? If backing tracks were recorded and used, then the
vocals would be the ONE thing that would've been done live on the night. Having
the vocals pre-recorded but guitar and drums live is just ludicrous (and
virtually impossible to execute).



No ones denying that Prince has lipsynched certain performances before, but
in EVERY case, the entire song is pre-recorded or he sings live over a
pre-recorded backing track. Plus, if you watch any of his lipsynched
performances, it's quite obvious when he does it. He really is very bad at
it!



Again, I and most people here are not denying that lipsynching happens for
various reasons. But in this occasion it's a ridiculous assumption. There
are only 2 possibilities when it comes to lipsynching practically speaking.
1. The entire track is pre-recorded and mimed to
2. A backing track is used, and the lead vocals (and maybe lead guitar) is
sung/played live over the top.
Any other option is too difficult and frought with technical problems to
realistically be viable. If anything's gonna be live, it's gonna be the
vocals. To play pre-recorded vocals along to an otherwise live performance
is very very difficult, and would require the use of a click track to keep
it all in synch. Cora is clearly not wearing headphones in this performance
so this theory can be confidently dismissed.

Aerogram said:

Oh YEAH!

BorisFishpaw said:

I completely agree. Just a little remark, TAC is available via retail in the UK (I've seen it at HMV), but I can't 100 % assure that it wasn't a US import.

FanofDaFascist said:

I'm sorry, I laughed at that comment... I was able to work out the chords to "Te Amo" only minutes after listening to it. Surely professional musicians like Wendy & Lisa would have no trouble learning it.

I'm convinced there must be an out-of-sync copy floating around because on my copy it's totally obvious the whole thing is live.

toejam said:

I had to laugh too. TAC really isn't that complex harmonically, and W & L are good musicians. We're not talking about something from Schoenberg here...

Can we ditch this whole silly subject now? lol

toejam said:

Borisfishpaw said: But if that were so, it would also apply to Fury as well. Why lipsynch one
but not the other? And if that were the problem, why would that mean Prince
would need to lypsynch? It doesn't make any sense.


Hummm...


If this song is so simple to play, how come musically it didn't sound that great? If anything "Fury" seems like a much simpler song to learn and play.
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FanofDaFascist said:

I'm not saying it does "sound that great", in fact, I think the performance of "Te Amo" was pretty lame - but that just adds more evidence to the fact that it's live. Why would he mime to a crap version?

FanofDaFascist said:

I'm sure it is... but how does this prove that "Te Amo" was mimed?

Payt said:

Sorry Payt I just hate it when people say this kind of shit... No disrespect to them, but they must be schooled!

EmancipationLover said:

It's a US import. There's been no domestic release in the UK.

FanofDaFascist said:

Even if this were so, and even if he had Wendy and lisa's parts pre-recorded
due to non-existant rehearsal time, why on earth would this mean that Prince
himself would need to lipsynch to his own song? Like I said, anyone with any
knowledge of sound recording or live mixing will tell you this whole premise
of Prince lipsynching his vocals over a live track is just stupid. It's 100's
of times more difficult to do, and prone to way more serious problems than
just singing it live... the whole idea is just nonsensical.
[Edited 2/18/06 17:49pm]

This whole thread is hilarious but this gets my vote for the funniest thing I've read all year:



For the record, I've seen Prince lip-synch, it ain't pretty! What I witnessed the other day was absolutely beautiful. Therefore, no lip-synching involved!
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Jerky said:

I don't see how you can think it was lip-synched. It sounded nothing like a studio recording. And as somone mentioned, he was some what under pitch at the start.

Jerky said:

Bullshit. Wendy plays the guitar intro into TAC on guitar and Wendy plays keys. How hard is it to play 3 chords..,....Idiots.
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I take it back!

After watching again, I realized that his guitar was lipsyncing too.

lol

He lip synchs cause he keeps forgetting those spanish lyrics

Come on Prince, it's just 3 words!

Remember the video?

Jerky said:

I think you'll find you're dead wrong. I was watching the live in Bucharest DVD yesterday and I can tell you that WBSS, Human Nature, IJCSLY, Out of My Life, J5 medley, Billie Jean, Day & Night, Beat It and the second half of MITM is all live.