independent and unofficial
Prince fan community
Welcome! Sign up or enter username and password to remember me
Forum jump
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Te Lip Synching Corazon??
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
Author

Tweet     Share

Message
Thread started 02/17/06 5:15am

Jerky

avatar

Te Lip Synching Corazon??

Watching the tape of Brits performance.... which was stunning...

Is he miming to a pre-recorded 'live' vocal for the first song??

Then begins using mic for Fury?

I think so.

Not that I care either way.... so why post you ask?

Good question.

Maybe to see where the post-police (who are out in force latley) put this.

lol
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #1 posted 02/17/06 5:22am

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

Jerky said:

Watching the tape of Brits performance.... which was stunning...

Is he miming to a pre-recorded 'live' vocal for the first song??

Then begins using mic for Fury?

I think so.

Not that I care either way.... so why post you ask?

Good question.

Maybe to see where the post-police (who are out in force latley) put this.

lol


If that was lip-synched, then James Blunt is the biggest pop musician since John Lennon...

Concerning your "where they put this" remark: I tend to bet 100 £ on the sticky on top of the forum, because that's what it is there for...
[Edited 2/17/06 5:23am]
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #2 posted 02/17/06 5:25am

Jerky

avatar

If that was lip-synched, then James Blunt is the biggest pop musician since John Lennon...[/quote]

There should be a law that you can't mention John Lennon in the same sentence as James Blunt.

Doh!
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #3 posted 02/17/06 5:29am

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

Jerky said:

If that was lip-synched, then James Blunt is the biggest pop musician since John Lennon...


There should be a law that you can't mention John Lennon in the same sentence as James Blunt.

Doh!


There should be a law making James Blunt performances and records illegal imho. evillol
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #4 posted 02/17/06 5:39am

toejam

avatar

It's 100% live. Prince is actually slightly under pitch when he sings the first line...
Toejam @ Peach & Black Podcast: http://peachandblack.podbean.com
Toejam's band "Cheap Fakes": http://cheapfakes.com.au, http://www.facebook.com/cheapfakes
Toejam the solo artist: http://www.youtube.com/scottbignell
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #5 posted 02/17/06 6:04am

oldpurple

avatar

  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #6 posted 02/17/06 6:08am

WaterUdrink

avatar

I noticed that, too. It DID look like he was lip synching TAC. The rest of the songs were live, though, I guess.
"I'll be the first one to admit that I am many things, but one thing I am not is ungrateful...thank you..." - Prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #7 posted 02/17/06 6:37am

Anx

TAC sounded live to me...some of his phrasing sounded different than the recording. if he lip-synched, it was to a track recorded especially for the performance.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #8 posted 02/17/06 6:50am

Jerky

avatar

Maybe that's what he was recording in London before the show?
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #9 posted 02/17/06 6:52am

Anx

Jerky said:

Maybe that's what he was recording in London before the show?


why do that? seems silly to lip synch that song and do the rest live.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #10 posted 02/17/06 7:03am

Raine

avatar

hmmm the sound was a bit out of sync at the start, i thought it was cable tv's fault as usual .
NTL machinegun
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #11 posted 02/17/06 7:47am

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

It wasn't lip-synched. Doesn't really make sense to lip-synch that song and do the rest live. "Fury" was live (fading sound when he leaves the mic) for sure. The only reason to lip-synch one song and do the rest live could be a problem with his voice (a cold, for example), but why would he lip-synch "Te amo" then and perform songs which are much more challenging for his voice live??? eek eek eek
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #12 posted 02/17/06 8:07am

2020

avatar

R U people 4 real??


He was hardly lip syncing

Sad that people cant tell he is actually singing Te Amo - very simple

Come on!!

Get on the boat
2004
1984
2006
1986
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #13 posted 02/17/06 8:34am

Jerky

avatar

2020 said:

R U people 4 real??


He was hardly lip syncing

Sad that people cant tell he is actually singing Te Amo - very simple

Come on!!



I don't know man! Check the tape again. He seems to be mimimng (very well) to 'Te Amo Corazon' and then before he sings 'Fury' fixes the mic and the real vocal kicks in.

For a medley of songs like this at a huge technical live programme with many bands and set-ups.... it would be very difficult to mix such a quiet song and then change everything for the rockers.

I believe the first song is synched as it would have been too risky to have a sound fluff on such an important occasion.

look again, he signals the sound guy before 'Fury'
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #14 posted 02/17/06 9:13am

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

Jerky said:

2020 said:

R U people 4 real??


He was hardly lip syncing

Sad that people cant tell he is actually singing Te Amo - very simple

Come on!!



I don't know man! Check the tape again. He seems to be mimimng (very well) to 'Te Amo Corazon' and then before he sings 'Fury' fixes the mic and the real vocal kicks in.

For a medley of songs like this at a huge technical live programme with many bands and set-ups.... it would be very difficult to mix such a quiet song and then change everything for the rockers.

I believe the first song is synched as it would have been too risky to have a sound fluff on such an important occasion.

look again, he signals the sound guy before 'Fury'


I looked very carefully, but I couldn't find any indication of lip-synching during TAC and I haven't seen this signal to the sound guy ("He has given him a sign" - From Dusk 'till Dawn?).

It is still not logical for me. He probably knew the TV would show close-ups of him during TAC (not that much else going on on stage), so why risking an important live perfomance by giving people the chance to witness indications of "lip-synching"?

If there really had been a reason why he couldn't sing TAC live (technical or whatever), what decision would have made more sense:
1) Doing lip-synching with taking the risk of being discovered (just imagine the headlines next day...)?
2) Playing something else? BL&B, for example, is a new song too and Tamar would've done the lead vocals. He is not exactly running short on songs, you know... wink
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #15 posted 02/17/06 11:33am

2020

avatar

Jerky - I appreciate your comments and observations however trust me

not lip syncing - I've worked in music for years and have watched P perform live since early 80's and he is definitly singing live
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #16 posted 02/17/06 11:46am

Rockability

LOL....


Don't you all know by now how to tell if Prince is lip syncing? 1st off, the song would sound just as bad as the studio cut. 2nd, I don't think he would be handling a mic, cause he typically doesn't fake lipsync, but makes a point that he is.

Obviously, though, the song sounded much better and I actually liked it live. Therefore, it was live. The slow Santanaesque lead was very sweet.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #17 posted 02/17/06 11:47am

ImYours

Okay, I know we're all fans and such, but can we please stop over-analyzing EACH AND EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL. Besides, you know Prince doesn't do that - shame on you for thinking it.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #18 posted 02/17/06 12:37pm

Universaluv

ImYours said:

Okay, I know we're all fans and such, but can we please stop over-analyzing EACH AND EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL. Besides, you know Prince doesn't do that - shame on you for thinking it.


He has done it before. Just not in this case.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #19 posted 02/17/06 12:41pm

Jerky

avatar

ImYours said:

Okay, I know we're all fans and such, but can we please stop over-analyzing EACH AND EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL. Besides, you know Prince doesn't do that - shame on you for thinking it.


The first song was a pre-recorded 'Live' version that was recorded in London with the band. Prince lip-synched this, all the rest was live singing. It's very doubtful that any instrument apart from Sheila's drums and his guitar were live at all. His last Brits performance {7 years ago} was live singing but the band were pre-recorded. This is quite common with awards ceremonies.
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #20 posted 02/17/06 12:42pm

PleasurePrinci
ple

that sounded ALL live 2 me.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #21 posted 02/17/06 12:51pm

ThaStrike

avatar

Jerky said:

ImYours said:

Okay, I know we're all fans and such, but can we please stop over-analyzing EACH AND EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL. Besides, you know Prince doesn't do that - shame on you for thinking it.


The first song was a pre-recorded 'Live' version that was recorded in London with the band. Prince lip-synched this, all the rest was live singing. It's very doubtful that any instrument apart from Sheila's drums and his guitar were live at all. His last Brits performance {7 years ago} was live singing but the band were pre-recorded. This is quite common with awards ceremonies.


I just watched this again, and I have to say...in my opinion, there's NO DISPUTING that the entire performance was 100% organic...no recordings at all!! This was pure...not tainted or diluted. To say otherwise is disrespectful of the power of the music.

Lip synching?? As they say...SQUIRELL PLEASE!! There was no lip stnching done on that night...
As usual, this is only my 2 cents. Of course, I could be wrong...
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #22 posted 02/17/06 12:58pm

Jerky

avatar

Hey, don't get me wrong...

No disrespect meant at all, if the first song wasn't live then who cares?

Prince is THE best live performer of his generation, nobody else comes close.

It was probably more a technical thing, Selling Te Amo to non-fans was risky as an opener, but it sounded better than the studio track.

Prince is 100% live in concert.

Michael Jackson, live in concert? is ALL mimed [including vocals] Awful

Madonna, live in concert? Only the ballads are sung live. Dissapointing

As David Brent would say..... Fact.

[Edited 2/17/06 12:59pm]
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #23 posted 02/17/06 12:59pm

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

Jerky said:

ImYours said:

Okay, I know we're all fans and such, but can we please stop over-analyzing EACH AND EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL. Besides, you know Prince doesn't do that - shame on you for thinking it.


The first song was a pre-recorded 'Live' version that was recorded in London with the band. Prince lip-synched this, all the rest was live singing. It's very doubtful that any instrument apart from Sheila's drums and his guitar were live at all. His last Brits performance {7 years ago} was live singing but the band were pre-recorded. This is quite common with awards ceremonies.


Pretty unlikely. Wendy and Lisa flying over the atlantic just to move to a prerecorded tape???

See my posts above, it's all pretty unlogical.
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #24 posted 02/17/06 1:03pm

Payt

avatar

Jerky said:

ImYours said:

Okay, I know we're all fans and such, but can we please stop over-analyzing EACH AND EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL. Besides, you know Prince doesn't do that - shame on you for thinking it.


The first song was a pre-recorded 'Live' version that was recorded in London with the band. Prince lip-synched this, all the rest was live singing. It's very doubtful that any instrument apart from Sheila's drums and his guitar were live at all. His last Brits performance {7 years ago} was live singing but the band were pre-recorded. This is quite common with awards ceremonies.


You obviously have no clue what you're talking about..lol..

Doing the drums live over a track sans rhytm? Well, it can be done ofcourse, but you'd need a clicktrack to play to for the drummer. Using of these requires the drummer to wear headphones so she can hear the clicktrack and drum to it's beat.

As for Prince's vocals.. the difference between a prerecorded vocal and a live one would be too obvious, and in Prince' case useless. In that respect it would make more sense to either do the whole thing either live or prerecorded.

Rest assured that this was all live smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #25 posted 02/17/06 1:08pm

EmancipationLo
ver

avatar

Payt said:

Jerky said:



The first song was a pre-recorded 'Live' version that was recorded in London with the band. Prince lip-synched this, all the rest was live singing. It's very doubtful that any instrument apart from Sheila's drums and his guitar were live at all. His last Brits performance {7 years ago} was live singing but the band were pre-recorded. This is quite common with awards ceremonies.


You obviously have no clue what you're talking about..lol..

Doing the drums live over a track sans rhytm? Well, it can be done ofcourse, but you'd need a clicktrack to play to for the drummer. Using of these requires the drummer to wear headphones so she can hear the clicktrack and drum to it's beat.

As for Prince's vocals.. the difference between a prerecorded vocal and a live one would be too obvious, and in Prince' case useless. In that respect it would make more sense to either do the whole thing either live or prerecorded.

Rest assured that this was all live smile


Agreed. Overall, it would have been much more complicated (and risky!) to do the performance the way it was suggested with all the tricks instead of just playing the whole shit live.
prince
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #26 posted 02/17/06 1:31pm

2020

avatar

In my mind the bigger issue from this performance was this I posted on the performance thread



Did Prince forgot the second line of Fury??

I think we have ourselves a rare bleeper!!!

Congratulations a new star is born
Sun to a shadow
ohhhhhwoooohhh
ain't no fury like a woman scorned
The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.

Remember there is only one destination and that place is U
All of it. Everything. Is U.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #27 posted 02/17/06 2:12pm

Payt

avatar

2020 said:

In my mind the bigger issue from this performance was this I posted on the performance thread



Did Prince forgot the second line of Fury??

I think we have ourselves a rare bleeper!!!

Congratulations a new star is born
Sun to a shadow
ohhhhhwoooohhh
ain't no fury like a woman scorned


If he did forget it, he recovered later on when he sings it correctly smile
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #28 posted 02/17/06 2:29pm

Jerky

avatar

You obviously have no clue what you're talking about..lol..

Rest assured that this was all live smile[/quote]

bananadance
“Tuna, you better do something or else we gonna have to put you back in the can!”
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Reply #29 posted 02/17/06 2:53pm

BorisFishpaw

avatar

It was all live.

Prince is a notoriously bad lipsyncher, just watch any TV performance where
he's done it... he's terrible at it. Believe me, when he does do it...
you can easily tell.
  - E-mail - orgNote - Report post to moderator
Page 1 of 2 12>
  New topic   Printable     (Log in to 'subscribe' to this topic)
« Previous topic  Next topic »
Forums > Prince: Music and More > Te Lip Synching Corazon??