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Thread started 02/17/06 3:32am

lspear76

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3121... weak tracklist

You gotta be kidding me... two years since Musicology and the new album is only 12 songs?

Black Sweat, Te Amo are just average. Beautiful Loved and Blessed is a boring, boring song that belongs on Tamar's album only. That's 3 losers out of 12 already.

One has to think, Prince is a living legend and has almost infinite musical talent, and this is the best he can do?

Give us 15 quality songs at least, 65 to 70 minutes. Something to dig into and enjoy. The days of a 54 minute "album" being meaningful or enjoyable are long gone, especially since the music industry is essentially dead.

Just my opinon.
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Reply #1 posted 02/17/06 3:34am

Number23

Wank.
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Reply #2 posted 02/17/06 3:38am

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Number23 said:

Wank.



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Reply #3 posted 02/17/06 3:39am

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Number23 said:

Wank.



smile

I'm as serious as cancer when I say rhythm is a dancer.
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Reply #4 posted 02/17/06 3:47am

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**Fury is awesome!! TAC, BS, and BL&B are all good. I think Prince is kickin ass.
CALL ME A DREAMER 2!
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Reply #5 posted 02/17/06 3:48am

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haha, i actually laughed at that last quote.

shall we get into a debate about album lengths here? 65-70 minute albums rarely work. i thought by now people had gotten used to the idea that just cos a cd can hold 80 minutes...DOESN'T MEAN IT HAS TO!

prince has also recorded Tamar's album. you don't like the songs - whoopy do. prince'll be gutted.
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Reply #6 posted 02/17/06 3:54am

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I'd rather have a solid 12 track album than a 15 track album containing filler, personally. nod

Okay, there's space to be filled on a cd but what's the point in filling it just for the sake of it? That's why we get 17 track albums these days with at least 6 songs people skip. shrug

I'm not even that old but I miss the days when artists had to fit an album into 45 minutes, usually between ten tracks. Concise and to the point. And the tracks that were included were there for a reason; not simply because the technology allowed it.
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Reply #7 posted 02/17/06 4:17am

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Remember Tamar's album coming out as well, and I bet that's mostly Prince songs anyway.
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Reply #8 posted 02/17/06 4:53am

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onenitealone said:

I'd rather have a solid 12 track album than a 15 track album containing filler, personally. nod

Okay, there's space to be filled on a cd but what's the point in filling it just for the sake of it? That's why we get 17 track albums these days with at least 6 songs people skip. shrug

I'm not even that old but I miss the days when artists had to fit an album into 45 minutes, usually between ten tracks. Concise and to the point. And the tracks that were included were there for a reason; not simply because the technology allowed it.



But at least 3 songs on this "12 song" album are already filler material. You'd rather have 6 good songs vs 6 filler songs, or 8 good songs vs 8 filler songs?

Honestly, this album is the biggest disappointment of the year. Skip it.
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Reply #9 posted 02/17/06 4:56am

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Reply #10 posted 02/17/06 5:06am

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lspear76 said:

onenitealone said:

I'd rather have a solid 12 track album than a 15 track album containing filler, personally. nod

Okay, there's space to be filled on a cd but what's the point in filling it just for the sake of it? That's why we get 17 track albums these days with at least 6 songs people skip. shrug

I'm not even that old but I miss the days when artists had to fit an album into 45 minutes, usually between ten tracks. Concise and to the point. And the tracks that were included were there for a reason; not simply because the technology allowed it.



But at least 3 songs on this "12 song" album are already filler material. You'd rather have 6 good songs vs 6 filler songs, or 8 good songs vs 8 filler songs?

Honestly, this album is the biggest disappointment of the year. Skip it.



Really?

Well, I like Te Amo Corazon - not the best thing he's ever done but it's grown on me - and I think Black Sweat is a mini funk masterpiece. The more I hear it, the more I love it. And I've only heard the live version of 'Fury'.

So... I'll wait til I hear the album. smile
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lspear76 said:

onenitealone said:

I'd rather have a solid 12 track album than a 15 track album containing filler, personally. nod

Okay, there's space to be filled on a cd but what's the point in filling it just for the sake of it? That's why we get 17 track albums these days with at least 6 songs people skip. shrug

I'm not even that old but I miss the days when artists had to fit an album into 45 minutes, usually between ten tracks. Concise and to the point. And the tracks that were included were there for a reason; not simply because the technology allowed it.



But at least 3 songs on this "12 song" album are already filler material. You'd rather have 6 good songs vs 6 filler songs, or 8 good songs vs 8 filler songs?

Honestly, this album is the biggest disappointment of the year. Skip it.


So when it drops dont listen to a single note thanx to your psychic abilities. Btw, what are the powerball numbers for this weekend and when will Miss Cleo be back?
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Reply #12 posted 02/17/06 5:12am

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I am amazed about you, the ones who get to hear the albums, before they are sold... You always know the weak and strong song weeks ahead of the official release. I wish I could be like you....


Why don't you just wait and c what the album will be?


... and by the way, just ask yourself how many of the "living legends" in music have had their weak moments, too ...

Why is everyone just complaining nowadays? Even if the album is not good as we expect, would it be the end of the world? I guess not...

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Reply #13 posted 02/17/06 5:15am

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now the people who are complaining about the new album not having enough tracks are the same people who will praise prince's early albums, which had like seven or eight songs on average. what's that about? lol
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Reply #14 posted 02/17/06 5:20am

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lspear76 said:

You gotta be kidding me... two years since Musicology and the new album is only 12 songs?

Black Sweat, Te Amo are just average. Beautiful Loved and Blessed is a boring, boring song that belongs on Tamar's album only. That's 3 losers out of 12 already.

One has to think, Prince is a living legend and has almost infinite musical talent, and this is the best he can do?

Give us 15 quality songs at least, 65 to 70 minutes. Something to dig into and enjoy. The days of a 54 minute "album" being meaningful or enjoyable are long gone, especially since the music industry is essentially dead.

Just my opinon.


Simple method: You think you won't like it - DON'T BUY IT!!! wink
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Reply #15 posted 02/17/06 5:21am

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EmancipationLover said:

lspear76 said:

You gotta be kidding me... two years since Musicology and the new album is only 12 songs?

Black Sweat, Te Amo are just average. Beautiful Loved and Blessed is a boring, boring song that belongs on Tamar's album only. That's 3 losers out of 12 already.

One has to think, Prince is a living legend and has almost infinite musical talent, and this is the best he can do?

Give us 15 quality songs at least, 65 to 70 minutes. Something to dig into and enjoy. The days of a 54 minute "album" being meaningful or enjoyable are long gone, especially since the music industry is essentially dead.

Just my opinon.


Simple method.: You think you don't like it - DON'T BUY IT!!! wink


or buy it and give it to me, it might have one of those damn tickets in it. kthnx
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Reply #16 posted 02/17/06 5:25am

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Anx said:

now the people who are complaining about the new album not having enough tracks are the same people who will praise prince's early albums, which had like seven or eight songs on average. what's that about? lol



Exactly! nod

And people wonder why so many albums from the 60's and 70's end up in 'The Best Albums Ever' lists.
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Reply #17 posted 02/17/06 5:26am

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Anx said:

now the people who are complaining about the new album not having enough tracks are the same people who will praise prince's early albums, which had like seven or eight songs on average. what's that about? lol


I guess dude might make a thread next complaining that "Emancipation" contains too much filler... giggle
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Reply #18 posted 02/17/06 5:27am

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lspear76 said:



Honestly, this album is the biggest disappointment of the year. Skip it.



Please post the link where you got it early.
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Reply #19 posted 02/17/06 5:37am

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lspear76 said:

You gotta be kidding me... two years since Musicology and the new album is only 12 songs?

Black Sweat, Te Amo are just average. Beautiful Loved and Blessed is a boring, boring song that belongs on Tamar's album only. That's 3 losers out of 12 already.

One has to think, Prince is a living legend and has almost infinite musical talent, and this is the best he can do?

Give us 15 quality songs at least, 65 to 70 minutes. Something to dig into and enjoy. The days of a 54 minute "album" being meaningful or enjoyable are long gone, especially since the music industry is essentially dead.

Just my opinon.


Btw, isn't there a sticky to discuss "3121"...? eek wink
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Reply #20 posted 02/17/06 6:03am

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Reply #21 posted 02/17/06 6:09am

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EmancipationLover said:

lspear76 said:

You gotta be kidding me... two years since Musicology and the new album is only 12 songs?

Black Sweat, Te Amo are just average. Beautiful Loved and Blessed is a boring, boring song that belongs on Tamar's album only. That's 3 losers out of 12 already.

One has to think, Prince is a living legend and has almost infinite musical talent, and this is the best he can do?

Give us 15 quality songs at least, 65 to 70 minutes. Something to dig into and enjoy. The days of a 54 minute "album" being meaningful or enjoyable are long gone, especially since the music industry is essentially dead.

Just my opinon.


Btw, isn't there a sticky to discuss "3121"...? eek wink


I don't need psychic abilities to tell the 3 released tracks are average, and that a 54 minute album is not acceptable any longer. Plus, Prince has lost the ability to write good songs with a melody and hook. I'd say he lost this ability sometime after The Gold Experience. Aka, Prince's "plastic" period. I wonder how many songs on 3121 are r&bish ballads with meandering spoken lyrics and a slow, canned beat? See Call my Name, Make My Sunshine, Te Amo Corazon, SST, etc... Slow Love and TMBGITW are like Mozart compared to those songs!

My prediction is that 3121 will get an overall thumbs down from an artistic (which matters) and commercial (which doesn't) perspective.
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Reply #22 posted 02/17/06 6:15am

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lspear76 said:

EmancipationLover said:




I don't need psychic abilities to tell the 3 released tracks are average, and that a 54 minute album is not acceptable any longer. Plus, Prince has lost the ability to write good songs with a melody and hook. I'd say he lost this ability sometime after The Gold Experience. Aka, Prince's "plastic" period. I wonder how many songs on 3121 are r&bish ballads with meandering spoken lyrics and a slow, canned beat? See Call my Name, Make My Sunshine, Te Amo Corazon, SST, etc... Slow Love and TMBGITW are like Mozart compared to those songs!

My prediction is that 3121 will get an overall thumbs down from an artistic (which matters) and commercial (which doesn't) perspective.

Btw, isn't there a sticky to discuss "3121"...? eek wink


Just to make that clear, I didn't say that, you inserted your opinion in my post.

My method is pretty simple: I judge stuff AFTER I've heard or seen it. If something keeps my expectations very low from the beginning (for example because I don't like the singles released prior to the album release), I don't buy it and move on to something else (I haven't bought the last two U2 albums though I'm a fan).

You don't like the songs from "3121" known so far (4 I think)? Fine, your opinion! Relax... wink
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Reply #23 posted 02/17/06 6:18am

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lspear76 said:

EmancipationLover said:



Btw, isn't there a sticky to discuss "3121"...? eek wink


I don't need psychic abilities to tell the 3 released tracks are average, and that a 54 minute album is not acceptable any longer. Plus, Prince has lost the ability to write good songs with a melody and hook. I'd say he lost this ability sometime after The Gold Experience. Aka, Prince's "plastic" period. I wonder how many songs on 3121 are r&bish ballads with meandering spoken lyrics and a slow, canned beat? See Call my Name, Make My Sunshine, Te Amo Corazon, SST, etc... Slow Love and TMBGITW are like Mozart compared to those songs!

My prediction is that 3121 will get an overall thumbs down from an artistic (which matters) and commercial (which doesn't) perspective.


Btw, I don't think that either your or my opinion about "3121" are so important that we need an extra thread for exchanging them, so why don't we continue the discussion on the sticky thread?
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Reply #24 posted 02/17/06 6:23am

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>>>>Honestly, this album is the biggest disappointment of the year. Skip it.>>>>>


Dude....nevermind


Boy , Lou Spear. after all these years , you haven't changed a bit.


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Reply #25 posted 02/17/06 6:24am

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lspear76 said:

EmancipationLover said:



Btw, isn't there a sticky to discuss "3121"...? eek wink


I don't need psychic abilities to tell the 3 released tracks are average, and that a 54 minute album is not acceptable any longer.


on average, weezer's albums are usually shy of half an hour. they seem to be doing pretty well for themselves.

i'd rather have a strong 50 minute album than a maxed out disc with tons of crap and segues and filler. i think artists who try to pass off 80 minute albums are doing so out of desperation or folly.
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Reply #26 posted 02/17/06 6:26am

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hmm *digs around in backpack*...now where did i put that damned sign at...err...no, that ain't it, hold up...






































great, i found it! biggrin
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Reply #27 posted 02/17/06 6:29am

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Anx said:

now the people who are complaining about the new album not having enough tracks are the same people who will praise prince's early albums, which had like seven or eight songs on average. what's that about? lol


Purple Rain: 9 tracks
Controversy: 8 tracks
Dirty Mind: 8 tracks

Yeah, people had to be really pissed that these records just weren't long enough.
I can imagine an unparalleled brew-ha-ha erupted.
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Reply #28 posted 02/17/06 6:30am

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Anx said:

now the people who are complaining about the new album not having enough tracks are the same people who will praise prince's early albums, which had like seven or eight songs on average. what's that about? lol


Purple Rain: 9 tracks
Controversy: 8 tracks
Dirty Mind: 8 tracks

Yeah, people had to be really pissed that these records just weren't long enough.
I can imagine an unparalleled brew-ha-ha erupted.


i felt cheated. it wasn't until the symbol album came out that i could finally feel as if i were done justice. five minutes worth of kirstie alley skits? okay. now THAT'S a prince album.
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