Snap said:

I figured that's what you were referring to, but, as has already been explained, that post seems to me to merely question how someone could speak so authoratatively about a stranger's intimate religious beleifs.

If I were to go into the P&R forum and start a thread to discuss what I have determined to be the details of Snaps intimate relationship with God, that should at least raise a question from someone as to why I think I know so much about someone I've never met.

That's not supressing free speech, that's questioning the source of that speech.

MickG said:[quote]Twice now I have tried to point out the evermore often sightings of Prince displaying the symbol for the world to see. Although my weak leading questions had quickly been glossed over I had found a couple of others talking about it too. However this doesn’t even begin to examine the deep meaning of this recent turn of events. That’s why I created this Thread.



As we all know, Prince is a JW,prior to his conversion--he did not practice any organized religion. However, he definitely made references to believing in God and in Jesus going all the way back to the eighties. Songs like "4 The tears in your eyes", "GOD", date back to 84-85. He included the lords prayer in "Controversey". He also frequently wore a cross necklace.
The whole symbol thing also has it's roots in the early eighties. Look at the cover of 1999 or Purple Rain, see the symbol? (it is actually the male/female symbols combined.) Prince added the arrow at the bottom and the horn thru the middle when he released the Symbol album in 1992. Later in 1993 he changed his name to the symbol. Was it a spiritual thing or just a ploy to get out of his record deal? I believe the latter. I remember Rosie O'Donnel asking him how he came up witht he symbol and he sayed "thru lots of prayer", but I think that was bologna. Prince was so spiritually confused back then---Remember on Oprah, he talked about how he has another person in him (split personality type thing), that was so wack!
He is clearly a JW now and no longer believes in traditional christian symbols (the cross) and I think his use of the Prince Symbol has nothing to do with his relationship with God at all. It is now just a trademark of his. People see it and associate it with him. That is it.

CandaceS said:

Most of the argument here seems to be from people questioning how the original poster can be so sure of a strangers beliefs. My question is, why are you all so sure that Prince is a stranger to him?

TheEnglishGent said:

Should the question not have been put out there? If he's not a stranger then he can easily answer the question and say

"Prince and I discussed his beliefs and here's what he thinks.."


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TheEnglishGent said:

That's why I asked him to explain himself in the comment above. Which he's yet to do.

has anyone given any thought to the fact that he already owns the jewelry he wears and maybe he just felt like wearing that specific piece again.
i mean those of you that have jewelry, don't you wear it more that once.....

i wish i could afford to wear a 2karot ring and never again and then a new one....

toejam said:

Agreed. The first version of the symbol appeared on the cover of 1999, and, according to some former associates, he actually created it when he was in high school. It was evident all through the PR era, and appeared in the vid to "America", and then pretty much disappeared until the Lovesexy era (and then only briefly). It really didn't become extremely prominent until 1990. So, this recent resurfacing of it is no real big deal. It has always been his trademark, both before and after it was his name.

Prince has stated that it has a spiritual meaning, but that doesn't have anything to do with whether or not he is a JW (he first started studying with the JWs during the NPS era, and was on everything around that time).

Shorty said:

Yes.

TheEnglishGent said:

I could answer that, but it wouldn't be flattering. So I will just for you sir.

MickG said:

so do it then!
do you know Prince personally or don't you? have you actually spoken to him or haven't you?
I'm talking real world here...not some other plain of consciousness that you may lay claim to.
do you have real information or are you just a bullshit artist?

Shorty said:

Per Prince's Request, all question such as that should be directed toward his public relations department.

MickG said:

so bullshit artist it is then.

Shorty said:

And now back to the regularly scheduled programing.

Twice now I have tried to point out the evermore often sightings of Prince displaying the symbol for the world to see. Although my weak leading questions had quickly been glossed over I had found a couple of others talking about it too. However this doesn’t even begin to examine the deep meaning of this recent turn of events. That’s why I created this Thread.


CandaceS said:[quote]

rudeboynpg said:

During the recent Saturday Night Live performance prince made his back up singers pose with Symbol Tambourines. Just the other day pictures were taken of Prince, in Pimping the blingbling, as it would be, of the Symbol around his neck. To those that don’t follow the meaning into things these two events hold no barring even being made into a thread, however to those that wish to or do not the cryptic meanings system consciously or unconsciously, the alignment of these events holds deeply meaningful impact into the state of mind and life of Prince.

First off one must understand the meaning of the symbol to Prince. Not that this can truly be done, but we must try. Prince is loosely quoted as saying that the symbol was given to him by god or was a name given to him by god or was what god called him on several occasions. Thus the two most important elements rise to the top. The Symbol has to do with the relationship Prince and God have.

If you are unaware of Prince’s relationship with God, I would have to ask are you new here? Prince is been singing about his relationship with god for decades. In such songs as Lovesexy and Thunder you get an insight into their relationship and the sense they speak with one another. If you have a hard time believing in such a exchange, hey sorry because it’s been happening to me too since I was a child, and maybe you yourself need to start listening within yourself. However I don’t wish to digress.


So, what we have here is a return to the symbol that God has given to prince in through Prince’s relationship with the voice of god within himself. This event is more frequent. It is very exciting. It has much meaning. However I am not about to spill secrets of prince here, thus discuss.
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Heiress said:

Preach to 'em Heiress!!! Who gives a rat's ass, who, why, when, and how he wears or feels about HIS symbol. Why do some of you in here try to analyze a man and HIS thoughts?? Sit P down have an hour long conversation with him and if he chooses to share that info with you...then feel free to come back here and give your true interpretation about YOUR interview. Until that happens, let all that speculative shit in your mind, out when you squat tonight before bedtime. Like P once said, "When Willie gets on tha mic, everyone knows what time it is". Peeeeace out!!!

NPGman said:

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NPGman said:

maybe the symbol, in relation to God, well there are so many forms of god Symbology and to put it bluntley has nothing to do with us. if Prince wants it then he can have it.

no doubt if Prince wore a bassball hat, what would people say? now thats a question that should be asked!



DONT FLAME ME Because Im Beutiful!!!! (and not very good at spelling)

I would be willing to make a bet it does have meaning.

some people have pieces of jewelry as a sign of wealth.

A brother like Prince doesn't need any bling for that.


Thus It is a sign of something else. Just because you can't read, don't be a hatter of those that can.

MickG said:

HUH?? Are u sure u arent a castoff from the Elton John Board? You have some serious issues my brutha!!! You are the KING of NPG hatin, and you talk about others?? Go away, Mr. Mick...you need some positivity!!!

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NPGman said:

Oh shit. I best respond before you put down that ever ending "." period post.



I hope this is ment as much of as a joke as it seems. Else you be the joke.

I don't hate the npg.

Peace.
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MickG said:

Else, I guess!!!! Too funny.
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BTW: Yes you do hate the NPG....you talk negative shit about EVERYTHING on this board, 95% of the time. At one time, I thought you were the "other" half of EBERT and MICK...lighten up big guy!!!

oldpurple said:

I just figure his symbol is something very personal.

You know how you can go through phases, leaving who you are and coming back to that later... maybe, in the process, you draw closer to God?

Heiress said:

Closer to God is a good thing. So too is self acceptance.

Snap said:

Oh yeah...?!
Well you...
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...misspelling hypocrite!

What a load of old nonsense. the symbol looks cool and he freely admitted he changed his name to it because of the record dispute with Warners, if you believe all that "my spirit (read lawyer) told me to" then you are as sadly deluded as most others on here having Prince make you believe what he wants you to believe.

NPGman said:

LOL classic..agreed 100%

MickG said:

Absolutely. "Love your neighbor as yourself," the second greatest commandment after "Love God," means that you accept yourself.

Maybe Prince is working out some deep-seated issues? For the sake of his own happiness, I sure hope so!