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Reply #30 posted 02/07/06 8:58am

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I can just imagine what would happen if these guys ever heard "I'm Yours" or "Bambi"... They be like... eek
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Reply #31 posted 02/07/06 9:00am

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coolcat said:

"I'm Yours" or "Bambi"... T


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Reply #32 posted 02/07/06 9:14am

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FunkMistress said:


Ahh, this is how rumors start, folks. From someone who clearly wasn't watching in the first place... lol


There's a blog that reckons Prince was lipsinching on Fury rolleyes
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Reply #33 posted 02/07/06 9:56am

Snap

ConsciousContact said:

FunkMistress said:


Ahh, this is how rumors start, folks. From someone who clearly wasn't watching in the first place... lol


There's a blog that reckons Prince was lipsinching on Fury rolleyes


funny, 'cause oftentimes during that performance, he was so busy wailing away on his guitar, that some of his vocals faded in and out as he got closer and farther away from the mic. wow, the audio technician must've really been paying close attention to make sure to fade in and out at just the right spots

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Reply #34 posted 02/07/06 10:20am

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ConsciousContact said:

FunkMistress said:


Ahh, this is how rumors start, folks. From someone who clearly wasn't watching in the first place... lol


There's a blog that reckons Prince was lipsinching on Fury rolleyes



eek disbelief Blasphemy!!

BTW...where I can I find the tracklist for The Undertaker?
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Reply #35 posted 02/07/06 4:00pm

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coolcat said:

smile Glad Prince is getting some respect... But these threads surprise and frustrate me at the same time! I mean WTF??? How can they not know Prince plays guitar like that? It's not like he crawled out from under a rock... He's been giving great live performances for ages.


- Well, unfortunately I understand them. Prince never really cared to show the world that he could play until recently (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, NACCP and SNL).

Most of my friends dont even know he can play bass or drums! Most of the songs in an album don´t have any guitar solo (or very small ones). That´s why people still get surprised when they see him on the cover of a Guitar Magazine, or Bass Player or whatever.


And let´s not forget that some of his best playing stuff is on:

1) bootlegs
2) hard to find stuff (like Crystal Ball, ONA Aftershow, Madhouse albums, etc)
3) outtakes (even some fans never heard ´Glass Cutter´, for example, one of his best one-man-band works)
4) album non-hit songs (songs like Live 4 Love, for example, werent as successful as Cream - in the same album)
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Reply #36 posted 02/07/06 4:02pm

GustavoRibas

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jamaicanbob said:

Snap said:

Don't forget... Rolling Stone magazine listed its 100 Best Guitarists, and guess who was missing???


Really? When did this list come out and how often do they do a new one? Not that I give a crap what that magazine thinks but honestly.. 100 people better than Prince? Puh-lease!


- That list was ridiculous. They forgot Wes Montgomery, Benson, Joe Pass and Django....not to mention that putting Kirk Hammett above Jeff Beck and Kurt Cobain above Zappa and Van Halen is absurd! Notice that they put some obscure names there just to try to give the list credibility...
[Edited 2/7/06 16:06pm]
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Reply #37 posted 02/07/06 4:03pm

GustavoRibas

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Aerogram said:

Why so surprised? Prince doesn't fit the mold and he's been parcimonious with his mainstream guitar playing. Most people remember Let's Go Crazy and maybe ICNTTPOYM and they figure he's a good rhythm guitarist.. but he's mostly known as a r n b/funk/pop act with some showy riffs here and there. Yes, one day Prince has to make a real, basic rock record and not just to fullfill a contract obligation. He owes to himself and the musical world at large. Until then, guitar-oriented people will gravitate toward conventional guitar heroes who don't sing higher than their backup singers.


- Oh yeah!! A basic rock album with no gimmicks, cheesy keys, etc would be great! Maybe a studio version of some classics + his own songs...wow
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Reply #38 posted 02/07/06 4:39pm

coolcat

GustavoRibas said:

coolcat said:

smile Glad Prince is getting some respect... But these threads surprise and frustrate me at the same time! I mean WTF??? How can they not know Prince plays guitar like that? It's not like he crawled out from under a rock... He's been giving great live performances for ages.


- Well, unfortunately I understand them. Prince never really cared to show the world that he could play until recently (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, NACCP and SNL).

Most of my friends dont even know he can play bass or drums! Most of the songs in an album don´t have any guitar solo (or very small ones). That´s why people still get surprised when they see him on the cover of a Guitar Magazine, or Bass Player or whatever.


And let´s not forget that some of his best playing stuff is on:

1) bootlegs
2) hard to find stuff (like Crystal Ball, ONA Aftershow, Madhouse albums, etc)
3) outtakes (even some fans never heard ´Glass Cutter´, for example, one of his best one-man-band works)
4) album non-hit songs (songs like Live 4 Love, for example, werent as successful as Cream - in the same album)


Hmmm... I thought there was enough guitar playing on his hits... "Purple Rain", "Let's Go Crazy", "When Doves Cry" (I mean how can someone listen to that guitar solo and not get it!!) "I could never take the place of your man", "Batdance"...
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Reply #39 posted 02/07/06 6:53pm

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setyrmindphree said:

That wasn't the Banjo he was playing on Purple Rain or Fury. Not in the top hundred huh. eek
[Edited 2/6/06 22:18pm]

Of course, it's possible that without his exclusion from this list the world may not have seen that bad-ass playing at the RRHOF. Rumour has it he played at full capacity that night because the editor of Rolling Stone was in the front row. eek


P. showed him what's what. biggrin
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Reply #40 posted 02/07/06 7:38pm

jdcxc

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jamaicanbob said:



Really? When did this list come out and how often do they do a new one? Not that I give a crap what that magazine thinks but honestly.. 100 people better than Prince? Puh-lease!


it was a few years ago... here's the list -- where's PRINCE?!??!

1Jimi Hendrix
2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band
3 B.B. King
4 Eric Clapton
5 Robert Johnson
6 Chuck Berry
7 Stevie Ray Vaughan
8 Ry Cooder
9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin
10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones
11Kirk Hammett of Metallica
12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana
13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead
14 Jeff Beck
15 Carlos Santana
16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones
17 Jack White of the White Stripes
18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers
19 Richard Thompson
20 James Burton
21 George Harrison
22 Mike Bloomfield
23 Warren Haynes
24 The Edge of U2
25 Freddy King
26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave
27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits
28 Stephen Stills
29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges
30 Buddy Guy
31 Dick Dale
32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service
33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth
35 John Fahey
36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's
37 Bo Diddley
38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac
39 Brian May of Queen
40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival
41 Clarence White of the Byrds
42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson
43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic
44 Scotty Moore
45 Frank Zappa
46 Les Paul
47 T-Bone Walker
48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith
49 John McLaughlin
50 Pete Townshend
51 Paul Kossoff of Free
52 Lou Reed
53 Mickey Baker
54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane
55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple
56 Tom Verlaine of Television
57 Roy Buchanan
58 Dickey Betts
59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead
61 Ike Turner
62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band
63 Danny Gatton
64 Mick Ronson
65 Hubert Sumlin
66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour
67 Link Wray
68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape
69 Steve Howe of Yes
70 Eddie Van Halen
71 Lightnin' Hopkins
72 Joni Mitchell
73 Trey Anastasio of Phish
74 Johnny Winter
75 Adam Jones of Tool
76 Ali Farka Toure
77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat
78 Robbie Robertson of the Band
79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997)
80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids
81 Derek Trucks
82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd
83 Neil Young
84 Eddie Cochran
85 Randy Rhoads
86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath
87 Joan Jett
88 Dave Davies of the Kinks
89 D. Boon of the Minutemen
90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper
91 Robby Krieger of the Doors
92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5
94 Bert Jansch
95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine
96 Angus Young of AC/DC
97 Robert Randolph
98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer
99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag
100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden


This list is the biggest joke ever compiled. No room for Prince? Another Warner Brothers conspiracy.
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Reply #41 posted 02/08/06 2:03am

VanitySixx

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Snap said:



it was a few years ago... here's the list -- where's PRINCE?!??!

[list was here]


Thanks for posting. This list probably is the biggest piece of bs I've ever read by music journalists. Keith Richards at 10??? Have you seen the Super Bowl performance? I wondered if he would manage to HOLD the guitar through the 3 songs, not to talk about playing...


Yeah, I was watching him during the Super Bowl. He was pretty bad.
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Reply #42 posted 02/08/06 2:36am

Ernest

prince is a great guitarist, beaten only by jimi hendrix. ant thats the truth, the whole truth and nothin but the truth
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Reply #43 posted 02/08/06 2:46am

Ernest

prince's music doesnt just come from one bag. he does all types of music, and he plays the meanest guitar pieces ever. sometimes he sounds even better than hendrix himself. what can i say, PRINCE IS KING








ERNEST
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Reply #44 posted 02/08/06 6:50am

jdcxc

dnaplaya said:

xpertluva said:

Yes, one day Prince has to make a real, basic rock record and not just to fullfill a contract obligation. He owes to himself and the musical world at large. Until then, guitar-oriented people will gravitate toward conventional guitar heroes who don't sing higher than their backup singers.


Yeah, either that, or finally release The Undertaker album.


Prince was going to release Undertaker as a bonus sample disc on the front cover of a guitar magazine that he gave an interview to back in '95, but the WB wouldn't allow it. That would have been perfect for the guitar heads who have ever slept on Prince and his guitar talents to be exposed to his fantastic licks. Im really pissed at Warners for that decision. However, Prince would be in a position today to do it? Wouldn't he?[/quote]

Wow, that's an interesting fact. Whatever happened to the jazz album that Prince was supposed to release through that famous jazz label last year? Prince is the most complex musician of our generation. He could easily release material in every genre. Name me an artist who is as diverse as him. One that could compose "Fury" and "Housequake" and "Adore" and "Sometimes It Snows In April."
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Reply #45 posted 02/08/06 7:37am

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Ernest said:

prince's music doesnt just come from one bag. he does all types of music, and he plays the meanest guitar pieces ever. sometimes he sounds even better than hendrix himself. what can i say, PRINCE IS KING








ERNEST
That's a bold statement Ernest. I like Prince's guitar playing too. But Hendrix was an innovator. He created his own style. I don't think Prince (As good as he is) Has done anything to top Hendrix.
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Reply #46 posted 02/08/06 8:51am

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GustavoRibas said:

jamaicanbob said:



Really? When did this list come out and how often do they do a new one? Not that I give a crap what that magazine thinks but honestly.. 100 people better than Prince? Puh-lease!


- That list was ridiculous. They forgot Wes Montgomery, Benson, Joe Pass and Django....not to mention that putting Kirk Hammett above Jeff Beck and Kurt Cobain above Zappa and Van Halen is absurd! Notice that they put some obscure names there just to try to give the list credibility...
[Edited 2/7/06 16:06pm]



I totally agree . . . . . where are the JAZZ PLAYERS...The guys that you mentioned plus Herb Ellis, John Scofield, Kenny Burrell, Grant Green, etc etc etc etc etc etc.....
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Reply #47 posted 02/08/06 8:29pm

brothaluv

That list is kinda like the grammys. It features whoever is hot at the moment. Clearly Prince is an exceptional guitarist and would make any reputable list. The only ranking I agree with on the list is Jimi Hendrix. He is number one. The guy changed the way the instrument is played..
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Reply #48 posted 02/09/06 2:48pm

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brothaluv said:

That list is kinda like the grammys. It features whoever is hot at the moment.


- Very true. If that same list was made in 1984, Eddie Van Halen would be number 2, and Prince would probably be there,,,
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Reply #49 posted 02/09/06 4:02pm

jazzvirtuoso

You know who should really be on that list? Jimmy bruno!



He has technique on guitar that is simply unmatched. Sadly, i've heard quite recently that he's busted his chops. sad




JV'
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Reply #50 posted 02/09/06 6:29pm

machokitty

and exactly how long had this poster been a prince fan.
eek
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Reply #51 posted 02/09/06 7:40pm

Snap

Yngwie Malmsteen's not on there either, or Armen, or that one guy who does that really cool new age type stuff with the acoustic guitar... lol ...and i never knew Joni was that well known for her guitar playing... songwriting, yes... but a guitar virtuoso? hmm.
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Reply #52 posted 02/09/06 7:47pm

setyrmindphree

What about John Tesh! He can play the guit...oh, right, never mind. biggrin
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Reply #53 posted 02/09/06 10:46pm

Yeshua4all

ThePunisher said:

Ernest said:

prince's music doesnt just come from one bag. he does all types of music, and he plays the meanest guitar pieces ever. sometimes he sounds even better than hendrix himself. what can i say, PRINCE IS KING








ERNEST
That's a bold statement Ernest. I like Prince's guitar playing too. But Hendrix was an innovator. He created his own style. I don't think Prince (As good as he is) Has done anything to top Hendrix.



Good point. Jimmy did create his own style of play. But isn't there a reasonble argument to be made that to some degree all of the greats have climbed the backs of those who came before them? Most old school rythum amd blues guitarists will tell you about the weight of Robert Johnson's legacy on what they do. I have heard some of his rare recordings myself and while agreeing that there should be due respect given to him for being a pioneer, there are others around today who I'd rather listen to, and have brought the genre much further along.

I can see a paralell with the Jimmy/Prince comparison. I submit to you that everything being equal, I believe that P could more successfully reproduce a varying range of Jimmy's riffs and solos than Jimmy could manage of an equally varied swath of Prince licks. P has more color and texture in the complexity of his playing. His flow is so natural and organic that I don't have confidence in anyone really to outshine him, even in the style that yes, Jimmy developed himself.
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Reply #54 posted 02/09/06 10:56pm

Snap

true, Prince soaks in everything
and makes it all his own
not just one style, but many
melted down
refined
and produced as pure gold
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this makes him one hell of a guitarist to be contended with
he can do it all
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Reply #55 posted 02/09/06 10:59pm

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Not including Prince in that Rolling Stones list has got to be the biggest injustice ever perpertrated. Never has a man's talents been more overlooked or underrated. People are really stupid sometimes. Sorry, I had to vent! mad
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Reply #56 posted 02/10/06 7:18am

brothaluv

BTW, didn't Rolling Stone magazine classify Dez's guitar solo in Lil' Red Corvette as among the best of all time?
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Reply #57 posted 02/10/06 7:36am

jdcxc

After this post is completed we all should email a few thousand copies to the editors of Rolling Stone along with a list of Rolling Stone subcription cancellations. Even though their subscriber base has shrunk over the years. Where is the good music journalism anymore?
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Reply #58 posted 02/10/06 9:18am

tripp

for the musicology tour, i took a friend of mine to the concert, he's a fan but only of the older stuff and doesn't really know that much about prince other that his hits, but by the end of the show, my friend was in awh of our king.
and said that he never relised how much of a great guitar player he is, and performer.
he has since become more of a fan.
i think some of these na-sayer's just need to see a show, and the will be believers also.
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