I can just imagine what would happen if these guys ever heard "I'm Yours" or "Bambi"... They be like... | |
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coolcat said: "I'm Yours" or "Bambi"... T
I was pumping "I'm Yours" this morning while I did my hair! The Normal Whores Club | |
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FunkMistress said: Ahh, this is how rumors start, folks. From someone who clearly wasn't watching in the first place... There's a blog that reckons Prince was lipsinching on Fury | |
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ConsciousContact said: FunkMistress said: Ahh, this is how rumors start, folks. From someone who clearly wasn't watching in the first place... There's a blog that reckons Prince was lipsinching on Fury funny, 'cause oftentimes during that performance, he was so busy wailing away on his guitar, that some of his vocals faded in and out as he got closer and farther away from the mic. wow, the audio technician must've really been paying close attention to make sure to fade in and out at just the right spots | |
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ConsciousContact said: FunkMistress said: Ahh, this is how rumors start, folks. From someone who clearly wasn't watching in the first place... There's a blog that reckons Prince was lipsinching on Fury Blasphemy!! BTW...where I can I find the tracklist for The Undertaker? The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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coolcat said: Glad Prince is getting some respect... But these threads surprise and frustrate me at the same time! I mean WTF??? How can they not know Prince plays guitar like that? It's not like he crawled out from under a rock... He's been giving great live performances for ages.
- Well, unfortunately I understand them. Prince never really cared to show the world that he could play until recently (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, NACCP and SNL). Most of my friends dont even know he can play bass or drums! Most of the songs in an album don´t have any guitar solo (or very small ones). That´s why people still get surprised when they see him on the cover of a Guitar Magazine, or Bass Player or whatever. And let´s not forget that some of his best playing stuff is on: 1) bootlegs 2) hard to find stuff (like Crystal Ball, ONA Aftershow, Madhouse albums, etc) 3) outtakes (even some fans never heard ´Glass Cutter´, for example, one of his best one-man-band works) 4) album non-hit songs (songs like Live 4 Love, for example, werent as successful as Cream - in the same album) | |
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jamaicanbob said: Snap said: Don't forget... Rolling Stone magazine listed its 100 Best Guitarists, and guess who was missing???
Really? When did this list come out and how often do they do a new one? Not that I give a crap what that magazine thinks but honestly.. 100 people better than Prince? Puh-lease! - That list was ridiculous. They forgot Wes Montgomery, Benson, Joe Pass and Django....not to mention that putting Kirk Hammett above Jeff Beck and Kurt Cobain above Zappa and Van Halen is absurd! Notice that they put some obscure names there just to try to give the list credibility... [Edited 2/7/06 16:06pm] | |
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Aerogram said: Why so surprised? Prince doesn't fit the mold and he's been parcimonious with his mainstream guitar playing. Most people remember Let's Go Crazy and maybe ICNTTPOYM and they figure he's a good rhythm guitarist.. but he's mostly known as a r n b/funk/pop act with some showy riffs here and there. Yes, one day Prince has to make a real, basic rock record and not just to fullfill a contract obligation. He owes to himself and the musical world at large. Until then, guitar-oriented people will gravitate toward conventional guitar heroes who don't sing higher than their backup singers.
- Oh yeah!! A basic rock album with no gimmicks, cheesy keys, etc would be great! Maybe a studio version of some classics + his own songs...wow | |
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GustavoRibas said: coolcat said: Glad Prince is getting some respect... But these threads surprise and frustrate me at the same time! I mean WTF??? How can they not know Prince plays guitar like that? It's not like he crawled out from under a rock... He's been giving great live performances for ages.
- Well, unfortunately I understand them. Prince never really cared to show the world that he could play until recently (Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, NACCP and SNL). Most of my friends dont even know he can play bass or drums! Most of the songs in an album don´t have any guitar solo (or very small ones). That´s why people still get surprised when they see him on the cover of a Guitar Magazine, or Bass Player or whatever. And let´s not forget that some of his best playing stuff is on: 1) bootlegs 2) hard to find stuff (like Crystal Ball, ONA Aftershow, Madhouse albums, etc) 3) outtakes (even some fans never heard ´Glass Cutter´, for example, one of his best one-man-band works) 4) album non-hit songs (songs like Live 4 Love, for example, werent as successful as Cream - in the same album) Hmmm... I thought there was enough guitar playing on his hits... "Purple Rain", "Let's Go Crazy", "When Doves Cry" (I mean how can someone listen to that guitar solo and not get it!!) "I could never take the place of your man", "Batdance"... | |
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setyrmindphree said: That wasn't the Banjo he was playing on Purple Rain or Fury. Not in the top hundred huh.
[Edited 2/6/06 22:18pm] Of course, it's possible that without his exclusion from this list the world may not have seen that bad-ass playing at the RRHOF. Rumour has it he played at full capacity that night because the editor of Rolling Stone was in the front row. P. showed him what's what. "A Watcher scoffs at gravity!" | |
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Snap said: jamaicanbob said: Really? When did this list come out and how often do they do a new one? Not that I give a crap what that magazine thinks but honestly.. 100 people better than Prince? Puh-lease! it was a few years ago... here's the list -- where's PRINCE?!??! 1Jimi Hendrix 2 Duane Allman of the Allman Brothers Band 3 B.B. King 4 Eric Clapton 5 Robert Johnson 6 Chuck Berry 7 Stevie Ray Vaughan 8 Ry Cooder 9 Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin 10 Keith Richards of the Rolling Stones 11Kirk Hammett of Metallica 12 Kurt Cobain of Nirvana 13 Jerry Garcia of the Grateful Dead 14 Jeff Beck 15 Carlos Santana 16 Johnny Ramone of the Ramones 17 Jack White of the White Stripes 18 John Frusciante of the Red Hot Chili Peppers 19 Richard Thompson 20 James Burton 21 George Harrison 22 Mike Bloomfield 23 Warren Haynes 24 The Edge of U2 25 Freddy King 26 Tom Morello of Rage Against the Machine and Audioslave 27 Mark Knopfler of Dire Straits 28 Stephen Stills 29 Ron Asheton of the Stooges 30 Buddy Guy 31 Dick Dale 32 John Cipollina of Quicksilver Messenger Service 33 & 34 Lee Ranaldo, Thurston Moore of Sonic Youth 35 John Fahey 36 Steve Cropper of Booker T. and the MG's 37 Bo Diddley 38 Peter Green of Fleetwood Mac 39 Brian May of Queen 40 John Fogerty of Creedence Clearwater Revival 41 Clarence White of the Byrds 42 Robert Fripp of King Crimson 43 Eddie Hazel of Funkadelic 44 Scotty Moore 45 Frank Zappa 46 Les Paul 47 T-Bone Walker 48 Joe Perry of Aerosmith 49 John McLaughlin 50 Pete Townshend 51 Paul Kossoff of Free 52 Lou Reed 53 Mickey Baker 54 Jorma Kaukonen of Jefferson Airplane 55 Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple 56 Tom Verlaine of Television 57 Roy Buchanan 58 Dickey Betts 59 & 60 Jonny Greenwood, Ed O'Brien of Radiohead 61 Ike Turner 62 Zoot Horn Rollo of the Magic Band 63 Danny Gatton 64 Mick Ronson 65 Hubert Sumlin 66 Vernon Reid of Living Colour 67 Link Wray 68 Jerry Miller of Moby Grape 69 Steve Howe of Yes 70 Eddie Van Halen 71 Lightnin' Hopkins 72 Joni Mitchell 73 Trey Anastasio of Phish 74 Johnny Winter 75 Adam Jones of Tool 76 Ali Farka Toure 77 Henry Vestine of Canned Heat 78 Robbie Robertson of the Band 79 Cliff Gallup of the Blue Caps (1997) 80 Robert Quine of the Voidoids 81 Derek Trucks 82 David Gilmour of Pink Floyd 83 Neil Young 84 Eddie Cochran 85 Randy Rhoads 86 Tony Iommi of Black Sabbath 87 Joan Jett 88 Dave Davies of the Kinks 89 D. Boon of the Minutemen 90 Glen Buxton of Alice Cooper 91 Robby Krieger of the Doors 92 & 93 Fred "Sonic" Smith, Wayne Kramer of the MC5 94 Bert Jansch 95 Kevin Shields of My Bloody Valentine 96 Angus Young of AC/DC 97 Robert Randolph 98 Leigh Stephens of Blue Cheer 99 Greg Ginn of Black Flag 100 Kim Thayil of Soundgarden This list is the biggest joke ever compiled. No room for Prince? Another Warner Brothers conspiracy. | |
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EmancipationLover said: Snap said: it was a few years ago... here's the list -- where's PRINCE?!??! [list was here] Thanks for posting. This list probably is the biggest piece of bs I've ever read by music journalists. Keith Richards at 10??? Have you seen the Super Bowl performance? I wondered if he would manage to HOLD the guitar through the 3 songs, not to talk about playing... Yeah, I was watching him during the Super Bowl. He was pretty bad. | |
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prince is a great guitarist, beaten only by jimi hendrix. ant thats the truth, the whole truth and nothin but the truth | |
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prince's music doesnt just come from one bag. he does all types of music, and he plays the meanest guitar pieces ever. sometimes he sounds even better than hendrix himself. what can i say, PRINCE IS KING
ERNEST | |
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dnaplaya said: xpertluva said: Yes, one day Prince has to make a real, basic rock record and not just to fullfill a contract obligation. He owes to himself and the musical world at large. Until then, guitar-oriented people will gravitate toward conventional guitar heroes who don't sing higher than their backup singers.
Yeah, either that, or finally release The Undertaker album. Prince was going to release Undertaker as a bonus sample disc on the front cover of a guitar magazine that he gave an interview to back in '95, but the WB wouldn't allow it. That would have been perfect for the guitar heads who have ever slept on Prince and his guitar talents to be exposed to his fantastic licks. Im really pissed at Warners for that decision. However, Prince would be in a position today to do it? Wouldn't he?[/quote] Wow, that's an interesting fact. Whatever happened to the jazz album that Prince was supposed to release through that famous jazz label last year? Prince is the most complex musician of our generation. He could easily release material in every genre. Name me an artist who is as diverse as him. One that could compose "Fury" and "Housequake" and "Adore" and "Sometimes It Snows In April." | |
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Ernest said: prince's music doesnt just come from one bag. he does all types of music, and he plays the meanest guitar pieces ever. sometimes he sounds even better than hendrix himself. what can i say, PRINCE IS KING
That's a bold statement Ernest. I like Prince's guitar playing too. But Hendrix was an innovator. He created his own style. I don't think Prince (As good as he is) Has done anything to top Hendrix.ERNEST | |
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GustavoRibas said: jamaicanbob said: Really? When did this list come out and how often do they do a new one? Not that I give a crap what that magazine thinks but honestly.. 100 people better than Prince? Puh-lease! - That list was ridiculous. They forgot Wes Montgomery, Benson, Joe Pass and Django....not to mention that putting Kirk Hammett above Jeff Beck and Kurt Cobain above Zappa and Van Halen is absurd! Notice that they put some obscure names there just to try to give the list credibility... [Edited 2/7/06 16:06pm] I totally agree . . . . . where are the JAZZ PLAYERS...The guys that you mentioned plus Herb Ellis, John Scofield, Kenny Burrell, Grant Green, etc etc etc etc etc etc..... | |
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That list is kinda like the grammys. It features whoever is hot at the moment. Clearly Prince is an exceptional guitarist and would make any reputable list. The only ranking I agree with on the list is Jimi Hendrix. He is number one. The guy changed the way the instrument is played.. | |
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brothaluv said: That list is kinda like the grammys. It features whoever is hot at the moment.
- Very true. If that same list was made in 1984, Eddie Van Halen would be number 2, and Prince would probably be there,,, | |
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You know who should really be on that list? Jimmy bruno!
He has technique on guitar that is simply unmatched. Sadly, i've heard quite recently that he's busted his chops. JV' | |
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and exactly how long had this poster been a prince fan.
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Yngwie Malmsteen's not on there either, or Armen, or that one guy who does that really cool new age type stuff with the acoustic guitar... ...and i never knew Joni was that well known for her guitar playing... songwriting, yes... but a guitar virtuoso? hmm. | |
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What about John Tesh! He can play the guit...oh, right, never mind. | |
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ThePunisher said: Ernest said: prince's music doesnt just come from one bag. he does all types of music, and he plays the meanest guitar pieces ever. sometimes he sounds even better than hendrix himself. what can i say, PRINCE IS KING
That's a bold statement Ernest. I like Prince's guitar playing too. But Hendrix was an innovator. He created his own style. I don't think Prince (As good as he is) Has done anything to top Hendrix.ERNEST Good point. Jimmy did create his own style of play. But isn't there a reasonble argument to be made that to some degree all of the greats have climbed the backs of those who came before them? Most old school rythum amd blues guitarists will tell you about the weight of Robert Johnson's legacy on what they do. I have heard some of his rare recordings myself and while agreeing that there should be due respect given to him for being a pioneer, there are others around today who I'd rather listen to, and have brought the genre much further along. I can see a paralell with the Jimmy/Prince comparison. I submit to you that everything being equal, I believe that P could more successfully reproduce a varying range of Jimmy's riffs and solos than Jimmy could manage of an equally varied swath of Prince licks. P has more color and texture in the complexity of his playing. His flow is so natural and organic that I don't have confidence in anyone really to outshine him, even in the style that yes, Jimmy developed himself. [Edited 2/9/06 22:50pm] [Edited 2/9/06 22:51pm] | |
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true, Prince soaks in everything
and makes it all his own not just one style, but many melted down refined and produced as pure gold 0(+> this makes him one hell of a guitarist to be contended with he can do it all | |
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Not including Prince in that Rolling Stones list has got to be the biggest injustice ever perpertrated. Never has a man's talents been more overlooked or underrated. People are really stupid sometimes. Sorry, I had to vent! Must I become naked? No image at all? | |
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BTW, didn't Rolling Stone magazine classify Dez's guitar solo in Lil' Red Corvette as among the best of all time? | |
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After this post is completed we all should email a few thousand copies to the editors of Rolling Stone along with a list of Rolling Stone subcription cancellations. Even though their subscriber base has shrunk over the years. Where is the good music journalism anymore? | |
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for the musicology tour, i took a friend of mine to the concert, he's a fan but only of the older stuff and doesn't really know that much about prince other that his hits, but by the end of the show, my friend was in awh of our king.
and said that he never relised how much of a great guitar player he is, and performer. he has since become more of a fan. i think some of these na-sayer's just need to see a show, and the will be believers also. noituloveR lautiripS weN a fo gninwaD eht si sihT | |
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