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Billboard Review of Black Sweat
Prince's "Te Amo Corazon," the first release from his imminent Universal debut, "3121," was a pleasant melodic ballad that restored faith on the charts in Spain, Canada, Norway, Italy and elsewhere. Follow-up "Black Sweat," however, is sure to stall whatever momentum Prince may have regained; one can imagine that Universal and hopeful fans must be gritting their collective teeth. This song sounds like a reluctant B-side, recorded late one night when inspiration was running low. Prince squawks, chants the chorus ("Working up a black sweat") and speaks the verses in a monotone. As much as we continue to hope for a real Prince comeback to help inspire an increasingly stagnant R&B scene, "Black Sweat" is disappointing, if not irritating. —Chuck Taylor http://www.billboard.biz/...1001994929 |
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cryndove said: Billboard Review of Black Sweat
Prince's "Te Amo Corazon," the first release from his imminent Universal debut, "3121," was a pleasant melodic ballad that restored faith on the charts in Spain, Canada, Norway, Italy and elsewhere. Follow-up "Black Sweat," however, is sure to stall whatever momentum Prince may have regained; one can imagine that Universal and hopeful fans must be gritting their collective teeth. This song sounds like a reluctant B-side, recorded late one night when inspiration was running low. Prince squawks, chants the chorus ("Working up a black sweat") and speaks the verses in a monotone. As much as we continue to hope for a real Prince comeback to help inspire an increasingly stagnant R&B scene, "Black Sweat" is disappointing, if not irritating. —Chuck Taylor http://www.billboard.biz/...1001994929 This reviewer and Gavroche are both on crack: Is the song funky and danceable? The keyboard lick is the shit!- check Does it have a hook? - simple chorus and simple squealing keyboard phrase- check Does it have some princely innovation? - pure keyboards to construct a funk track, the stop start middle coda, assured simple delivery, the oozing of delight when he sings 'this is a groove'- check. I understand if you it ain't your thing but in terms of an accessible Prince groove with touches of brilliance this blows everything from Musicology back to Diamonds and Pearls out of the water..... And as long as you don't listen to it too many times in one go it doth grow on you....like any good Prince tune. | |
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Prince's "Te Amo Corazon," the first release from his imminent Universal debut, "3121," was a pleasant melodic ballad that restored faith on the charts in Spain, Canada, Norway, Italy and elsewhere. Follow-up "Black Sweat," however, is sure to stall whatever momentum Prince may have regained; one can imagine that Universal and hopeful fans must be gritting their collective teeth. This song sounds like a reluctant B-side, recorded late one night when inspiration was running low. Prince squawks, chants the chorus ("Working up a black sweat") and speaks the verses in a monotone. As much as we continue to hope for a real Prince comeback to help inspire an increasingly stagnant R&B scene, "Black Sweat" is disappointing, if not irritating. —Chuck Taylor http://www.billboard.biz/...1001994929 Surprisingly harsh. I wonder what kind of reviews he usually gets from Billboard. | |
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I can only think of two explanations for this review:
1. Chuck Taylor's a crackhead who sold his taste (and his mama's TV) for a rock. 2. Prince stole Chuck Taylor's woman and this is payback. Peace, David [Edited 2/10/06 19:01pm] | |
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It may take a while for Black Sweat to get traktion, but I thought the same thing when I saw the Billboard writer's comments (that he's on crack, that is).
Kiss was a bit slow to catch on, but boy when it did... We've got to remember, some of these writers were in elementary school when Prince was on fire. His best songs have always taken a while to take off. So far, the radio play BS has received has been mostly in the south, which makes sense since this is a warm/hot weather track. It'll take off, I'll be very surprised if it doesn't. But, will take a few weeks. It's not even on iTunes yet and doesn't go into rotation until next week on the video channels and the video is hot. By the time points from iTunes sales and the retail single hits, this will push into the top 40, maybe top 10. What would really help is a great extended version along with remixes. [Edited 2/10/06 19:09pm] | |
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That Billboard review is right on target.
Perfect review. [Edited 2/10/06 20:01pm] | |
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murph said: Gavroche said: Black Sweat is good but it honestly lacks the sheer brillance of the true classic Prince stuffs. I mean, come down everybody, there isn't anything new going on in this track. It's basicly Prince making ultra classic Prince music... and actually i like it, but nothing to go mad about either.
Hey guys....Sometimes music is not rocket science...Sometimes it's about having fun...People on this site make Prince out to be Mozart 24/7...the dude has released some pretty fun, check your brain at the door tracks over the years..."Black Sweat" is in the same tradition as "Irresitable Bitch," "Horny Toad," "Get Off," ect...I think Prince fans can a be bit too serious about the man...Before I heard "Fury," "Black Sweat" featured as much bad ass energy from the man that I've heard in a long time...I mean, what are we talking about people...It's just a fun song...it's not that serious...Lighten up people.... [Edited 2/10/06 10:49am]  I'm happy for a song like this. If for nothing else, it's something to really get down and drop it like it's hot to for once. Let's just have fun with this.I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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cryndove said: Billboard Review of Black Sweat
Prince's "Te Amo Corazon," the first release from his imminent Universal debut, "3121," was a pleasant melodic ballad that restored faith on the charts in Spain, Canada, Norway, Italy and elsewhere. Follow-up "Black Sweat," however, is sure to stall whatever momentum Prince may have regained; one can imagine that Universal and hopeful fans must be gritting their collective teeth. This song sounds like a reluctant B-side, recorded late one night when inspiration was running low. Prince squawks, chants the chorus ("Working up a black sweat") and speaks the verses in a monotone. As much as we continue to hope for a real Prince comeback to help inspire an increasingly stagnant R&B scene, "Black Sweat" is disappointing, if not irritating. —Chuck Taylor http://www.billboard.biz/...1001994929 Black Sweat is Prince by numbers, sure, but compared to the aimless meandering crap that was Te Anus Cornhole, it's a masterpiece to rival Kiss.  There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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I don't think it's so bad at all, but the ways you guys find to show you're dislike of Te Amo Corazon is priceless! | |
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homeandmantel said: That Billboard review is right on target.
Perfect review. [Edited 2/10/06 20:01pm] Home and Mantel sounds a bit on crack too. The review is not 'right on target'. It's fine if the reviewer doesn't dig the song BUT judging by the org response, fans are not 'grinding their teeth' about this song and nor does Prince speak the verses of Black Sweat in monotone. Chuckie-boy sounds like he got his Billboard gig by being the tone-deaf son of a Warners executive from the mid-90s who's pissed cuz Prince couldn't come up with a song like this back when Dad's biz needed it most. 
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Gavroche said: Black Sweat is good but it honestly lacks the sheer brillance of the true classic Prince stuffs. I mean, come down everybody, there isn't anything new going on in this track. It's basicly Prince making ultra classic Prince music... and actually i like it, but nothing to go mad about either.
I'll stand by my statement. Black Sweat makes Musicology sound like a masterpiece. The song lacks musical and lyrical content. Even his b-sides were stronger back in the day. It's time for Prince to check his ego and start writing with bandmembers or collab with the likes of Jam and Lewis etc. All the praise in the world can't help the reality of what is taking place. | |
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'I don't want to break your pride, but I got to'
This to me is the most offencive part of the song. I find the thought of such arogance, and pride, hypocritical in such a line. If the person who this line is writen about is anything like me, prince best not hold his breath because he will pass out. It kinda reminds me of those males/females who upon finding someone beautiful in their life go about sabotaging themself in the vane of "changing" this one they have begun to love.  News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so. You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop. | |
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What the f*ck?  | |
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This critic certainly disagrees with Billboard.
http://www.twincities.com...821662.htm Posted on Thu, Feb. 09, 2006 Prince popped on 'SNL,' but his upcoming single is going to explodeBY ROSS RAIHALA Pioneer Press Prince made a stunning comeback in 2004 with his induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the largest-grossing tour of the year. His "Musicology" CD was pretty sweet, too, but one key element was missing. A single. A killer single. Not a minor hit, nor a respected genre entry, but the sort of song that leaves an instant, indelible impression. Well, it has arrived in the form of "Black Sweat," the second single from his upcoming album "3121," due in stores March 21. Reminiscent of his string of minimalist '80s hits — "Kiss," "Alphabet St." and "Sign 'O' the Times" — "Black Sweat" is built on a bed of taut electronic drums, squealing synthesizer and a magnificent vocal performance from the Purple One that gracefully glides between whispers and screams. It's both seemingly effortless and breathtaking. It sounds like a long-lost nugget from his commercial peak yet comes across as utterly contemporary. It's funky, sexy and cocky (sample lyric: "You'll be screaming like a white lady when I count to three"). Most important, it's still weird in that way that makes Prince at his finest unlike anyone else on the planet. And after little more than three minutes, it's over, leaving the listener gasping for more. Even the video — now available for streaming online at MTV, VH1 and other music Web sites — is a hoot. In it, Prince mostly ignores the co-starring bootylicious model (who is, indeed, working up a black sweat), instead choosing to adjust his immaculate cuffs and sip tea while seducing the viewer with the swaggering sex appeal of a man half his age. Prince being Prince, he didn't perform "Black Sweat" on his "Saturday Night Live" appearance last week. Instead, he tore through the new tracks "Fury" — a reminder that, oh yeah, this skinny little guy hasn't forgotten about guitar-based pyrotechnics — and "Beautiful, Loved and Blessed," a launching pad for Tamar, the latest in a long line of Prince protégés. Yup, Prince is back. Yet again. Pop Music Critic Ross Raihala can be reached at rraihala@ pioneerpress.com or 651-228-5553. Read more about the local music scene on his blog, "The Ross Who Knew Too Much," at www.twin cities.com. [Edited 2/11/06 12:52pm] [Edited 2/11/06 15:55pm] | |
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Thumparello said: Gavroche said: Black Sweat is good but it honestly lacks the sheer brillance of the true classic Prince stuffs. I mean, come down everybody, there isn't anything new going on in this track. It's basicly Prince making ultra classic Prince music... and actually i like it, but nothing to go mad about either.
I'll stand by my statement. Black Sweat makes Musicology sound like a masterpiece. The song lacks musical and lyrical content. Even his b-sides were stronger back in the day. It's time for Prince to check his ego and start writing with bandmembers or collab with the likes of Jam and Lewis etc. All the praise in the world can't help the reality of what is taking place. Are you comparing Prince to Jam and Lewis? All of there material especially from Janet sounds so industrialized. Their sound has not changed. It's time they took some chances. At least Prince has taken some chances. Take "Black Sweat", with it's sound. He has not done something like that in years. Musicology while not a great album, made it's point. Prince still knows how to make music and take chances. What ever happened to a artist's right to speak his mind through his music? Jam and Lewis needs to take a cue from Prince and get away from their usual sound and try something new "Love is like peeing in your pants, everyone sees it but only you feel its warmth" |
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shorttrini said: Thumparello said: I'll stand by my statement. Black Sweat makes Musicology sound like a masterpiece. The song lacks musical and lyrical content. Even his b-sides were stronger back in the day. It's time for Prince to check his ego and start writing with bandmembers or collab with the likes of Jam and Lewis etc. All the praise in the world can't help the reality of what is taking place. Are you comparing Prince to Jam and Lewis? All of there material especially from Janet sounds so industrialized. Their sound has not changed. It's time they took some chances. At least Prince has taken some chances. Take "Black Sweat", with it's sound. He has not done something like that in years. Musicology while not a great album, made it's point. Prince still knows how to make music and take chances. What ever happened to a artist's right to speak his mind through his music? Jam and Lewis needs to take a cue from Prince and get away from their usual sound and try something new Yeah but Jam and Lewis aren't writing songs that sound like they have completely run out of steam. Jam and Lewis aren't the same anymore but Prince sounds worse. He needs assistance, the lps are getting worse and worse. I don't have to hear this lp to know whats coming. | |
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Thumparello said: I'll stand by my statement. Black Sweat makes Musicology sound like a masterpiece. blablabla zzzzz. You are really pissed off that so many of us who have disliked Prince's recent singles love this one and find it as great as his good old 80s single. Ppoo you, you are so frustrated. Il n'y a pas de sentiment plus exaltant que celui d'appartenir à une nation si diverse, si libre et si douée pour le bonheur. | |
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Thumparello said: shorttrini said: Are you comparing Prince to Jam and Lewis? All of there material especially from Janet sounds so industrialized. Their sound has not changed. It's time they took some chances. At least Prince has taken some chances. Take "Black Sweat", with it's sound. He has not done something like that in years. Musicology while not a great album, made it's point. Prince still knows how to make music and take chances. What ever happened to a artist's right to speak his mind through his music? Jam and Lewis needs to take a cue from Prince and get away from their usual sound and try something new Yeah but Jam and Lewis aren't writing songs that sound like they have completely run out of steam. Jam and Lewis aren't the same anymore but Prince sounds worse. He needs assistance, the lps are getting worse and worse. I don't have to hear this lp to know whats coming. Have you heard Jam & Lewis' "These Boots Are Made For Walking?" (And I like Jimmy & Terry...) I'll say it again, "Black Sweat" is not designed to change the world...It's not "In All My Dreams," it's not "When Doves Cry," it's not "The Ballad Of Dorthy Parker"...However, "Black Sweat" is an energetic, fun dance song, no more no less...It's one thing to say that you don't like the song because of its contempoary sound (there are a lot of fans on here that are not fans of the straight-ahead R&B groove that's prevelant on the radio today) and I can respect that...To me, this is a justified reaction..However, the keyboards on "Black Sweat" still exude the classic "Prince" sound... .I think most of the hate for the song comes from fans who are pining away from Prince to rock out, which explains the justified buzz "Fury" has receieved from the Org...But to say that "Black Sweat" is uninspired, is a bit knee jerk and missing the point...I'm beginning to think that some of the Prince fans on here have forgetten that our boy's base is R&B...Yes, he is certainly capable of expanding his sound, but let's get real here..."Black Sweat" is no different from "Irresistable Bitch" or "Kiss..." It's not that serious people.... [Edited 2/11/06 16:11pm] | |
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murph said: Thumparello said: Yeah but Jam and Lewis aren't writing songs that sound like they have completely run out of steam. Jam and Lewis aren't the same anymore but Prince sounds worse. He needs assistance, the lps are getting worse and worse. I don't have to hear this lp to know whats coming. Have you heard Jam & Lewis' "These Boots Are Made For Walking?" (And I like Jimmy & Terry...) I'll say it again, "Black Sweat" is not designed to change the world...It's not "In All My Dreams," it's not "When Doves Cry," it's not "The Ballad Of Dorthy Parker"...However, "Black Sweat" is an energetic, fun dance song, no more no less...It's one thing to say that you don't like the song because of its contempoary sound (there are a lot of fans on here that are not fans of the straight-ahead R&B groove that's prevelant on the radio today) and I can respect that...To me, this is a justified reaction..However, the keyboards on "Black Sweat" still exude the classic "Prince" sound... .I think most of the hate for the song comes from fans who are pining away from Prince to rock out, which explains the justified buzz "Fury" has receieved from the Org...But to say that "Black Sweat" is uninspired, is a bit knee jerk and missing the point...I'm beginning to think that some of the Prince fans on here have forgetten that our boy's base is R&B...Yes, he is certainly capable of expanding his sound, but let's get real here..."Black Sweat" is no different from "Irresistable Bitch" or "Kiss..." It's not that serious people.... [Edited 2/11/06 16:11pm] I agree except for the last part. Kiss and IB are dead serious in their funkiness and not easy to pull off. That's why they tower over the mountain of funk songs Prince has released over the years. I'm not sure if BS is worthy of those two, but it is certainly a fun song and video. [Edited 2/11/06 17:11pm] | |
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Aerogram said: murph said: Have you heard Jam & Lewis' "These Boots Are Made For Walking?" (And I like Jimmy & Terry...) I'll say it again, "Black Sweat" is not designed to change the world...It's not "In All My Dreams," it's not "When Doves Cry," it's not "The Ballad Of Dorthy Parker"...However, "Black Sweat" is an energetic, fun dance song, no more no less...It's one thing to say that you don't like the song because of its contempoary sound (there are a lot of fans on here that are not fans of the straight-ahead R&B groove that's prevelant on the radio today) and I can respect that...To me, this is a justified reaction..However, the keyboards on "Black Sweat" still exude the classic "Prince" sound... .I think most of the hate for the song comes from fans who are pining away from Prince to rock out, which explains the justified buzz "Fury" has receieved from the Org...But to say that "Black Sweat" is uninspired, is a bit knee jerk and missing the point...I'm beginning to think that some of the Prince fans on here have forgetten that our boy's base is R&B...Yes, he is certainly capable of expanding his sound, but let's get real here..."Black Sweat" is no different from "Irresistable Bitch" or "Kiss..." It's not that serious people.... [Edited 2/11/06 16:11pm] I agree except for the last part. Kiss and IB are dead serious in their funkiness and not easy to pull off. That's why they tower over the mountain of funk songs Prince has released over the years. I'm not sure if BS is worthy of those two, but it is certainly a fun song and video. [Edited 2/11/06 17:11pm] Never said they were on the same level...But they do come from the same school....I do, however, dig where you are coming from...My response was more for the Prince fans who take his music much too seriously.... [Edited 2/11/06 17:50pm] | |
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XxAxX said: 'scream like a white lady'?
i'll take a 'pass' when it comes to this song. thanks anyway [Edited 2/10/06 10:24am] You must have taken a pass on "DMSR" from the 1999 album, also... all the white people clap your hands on the 4, now.... 1-2-3... 1-2-3... He was basically saying white folks ain't got no rhythm (he was teasing of course, but I'm sure you'll accuse him of being serious)...  [Edited 2/11/06 17:52pm] "I'll be the first one to admit that I am many things, but one thing I am not is ungrateful...thank you..." - Prince | |
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murph said: Aerogram said: I agree except for the last part. Kiss and IB are dead serious in their funkiness and not easy to pull off. That's why they tower over the mountain of funk songs Prince has released over the years. I'm not sure if BS is worthy of those two, but it is certainly a fun song and video. [Edited 2/11/06 17:11pm] Never said they were on the same level...But they do come from the same school....I do, however, dig where you are coming from...My response was more for the Prince fans who take his music much too seriously.... [Edited 2/11/06 17:50pm] Don't mind me, I'm very protective of IB and Kiss. I agree that they are from the same school. In terms of quality, I'm inclined to compare BS to 319 or Come On, which are fun unpretentious songs that are not terribly original but still great. | |
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murph said: Thumparello said: Yeah but Jam and Lewis aren't writing songs that sound like they have completely run out of steam. Jam and Lewis aren't the same anymore but Prince sounds worse. He needs assistance, the lps are getting worse and worse. I don't have to hear this lp to know whats coming. Have you heard Jam & Lewis' "These Boots Are Made For Walking?" (And I like Jimmy & Terry...) I'll say it again, "Black Sweat" is not designed to change the world...It's not "In All My Dreams," it's not "When Doves Cry," it's not "The Ballad Of Dorthy Parker"...However, "Black Sweat" is an energetic, fun dance song, no more no less...It's one thing to say that you don't like the song because of its contempoary sound (there are a lot of fans on here that are not fans of the straight-ahead R&B groove that's prevelant on the radio today) and I can respect that...To me, this is a justified reaction..However, the keyboards on "Black Sweat" still exude the classic "Prince" sound... .I think most of the hate for the song comes from fans who are pining away from Prince to rock out, which explains the justified buzz "Fury" has receieved from the Org...But to say that "Black Sweat" is uninspired, is a bit knee jerk and missing the point...I'm beginning to think that some of the Prince fans on here have forgetten that our boy's base is R&B...Yes, he is certainly capable of expanding his sound, but let's get real here..."Black Sweat" is no different from "Irresistable Bitch" or "Kiss..." It's not that serious people.... [Edited 2/11/06 16:11pm] yes absolutely...this post is right on target. It is difficult reading the org sometimes for me becausse P's rock fans dominate...and they dismiss his RB roots and base. In any case Black Sweat its clearly a contemporary dance record with a Prince stamp on it. The falsetto voice and edge with it seperates it from mistaking it from anything else however. Its his classic sound (one of them) just with a 00s spin. The thing that gets me is that people use words like uninspired for Black Sweat and then will claim that Chaos and Disorder and the song Gold are some of his best work. Thats the thing for me...if you like his rock stuff only then at least like the good stuff. I love how Prince does so many different styles well. Its why when I took on listen to the opening synth to Fury last Saturday night and smiled from ear to ear...I knew the rest would be rockin. Its that kind of ear that allows me to seperate a Fury from Cinamin Girl. A Purple Rain from Gold, a Kiss from Glass Cutter..and yes a Black Sweat from Sex Me Sex Me Not [Edited 2/11/06 18:36pm] Dance... Let me see you dance | |
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Alexandernvrmind said: murph said: Have you heard Jam & Lewis' "These Boots Are Made For Walking?" (And I like Jimmy & Terry...) I'll say it again, "Black Sweat" is not designed to change the world...It's not "In All My Dreams," it's not "When Doves Cry," it's not "The Ballad Of Dorthy Parker"...However, "Black Sweat" is an energetic, fun dance song, no more no less...It's one thing to say that you don't like the song because of its contempoary sound (there are a lot of fans on here that are not fans of the straight-ahead R&B groove that's prevelant on the radio today) and I can respect that...To me, this is a justified reaction..However, the keyboards on "Black Sweat" still exude the classic "Prince" sound... .I think most of the hate for the song comes from fans who are pining away from Prince to rock out, which explains the justified buzz "Fury" has receieved from the Org...But to say that "Black Sweat" is uninspired, is a bit knee jerk and missing the point...I'm beginning to think that some of the Prince fans on here have forgetten that our boy's base is R&B...Yes, he is certainly capable of expanding his sound, but let's get real here..."Black Sweat" is no different from "Irresistable Bitch" or "Kiss..." It's not that serious people.... [Edited 2/11/06 16:11pm] yes absolutely...this post is right on target. It is difficult reading the org sometimes for me becausse P's rock fans dominate...and they dismiss his RB roots and base. In any case Black Sweat its clearly a contemporary dance record with a Prince stamp on it. The falsetto voice and edge with it seperates it from mistaking it from anything else however. Its his classic sound (one of them) just with a 00s spin. The thing that gets me is that people use words like uninspired for Black Sweat and then will claim that Chaos and Disorder and the song Gold are some of his best work. Thats the thing for me...if you like his rock stuff only then at least like the good stuff. I love how Prince does so many different styles well. Its why when I took on listen to the opening synth to Fury last Saturday night and smiled from ear to ear...I knew the rest would be rockin. Its that kind of ear that allows me to seperate a Fury from Cinamin Girl. A Purple Rain from Gold, a Kiss from Glass Cutter..and yes a Black Sweat from Sex Me Sex Me Not [Edited 2/11/06 18:36pm] I wish more people would understand this point (Bravo...and thanks for the kind words...)...Newsflash people:You are allowed to dislike any song you want...Hell, you can hate the fuck out of "Black Sweat" for all I care...But if you are going to rationalize your hate for "Black sweat" by saying it's as lazy as say "Sex Me..." or any of the post 90's funk work, you are not listening with unbiased ears...Just say you don't like Prince's straight-no-chaser R&B work and I can respect that...Say that you want him to rock out or experiment, and I can respect this as well...But just because the man is showing his funk/R&B side doesn't mean he's uninspired...it just means you are not willing to face the fact that Prince doesn't easily fit into one box... | |
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murph said: Alexandernvrmind said: yes absolutely...this post is right on target. It is difficult reading the org sometimes for me becausse P's rock fans dominate...and they dismiss his RB roots and base. In any case Black Sweat its clearly a contemporary dance record with a Prince stamp on it. The falsetto voice and edge with it seperates it from mistaking it from anything else however. Its his classic sound (one of them) just with a 00s spin. The thing that gets me is that people use words like uninspired for Black Sweat and then will claim that Chaos and Disorder and the song Gold are some of his best work. Thats the thing for me...if you like his rock stuff only then at least like the good stuff. I love how Prince does so many different styles well. Its why when I took on listen to the opening synth to Fury last Saturday night and smiled from ear to ear...I knew the rest would be rockin. Its that kind of ear that allows me to seperate a Fury from Cinamin Girl. A Purple Rain from Gold, a Kiss from Glass Cutter..and yes a Black Sweat from Sex Me Sex Me Not [Edited 2/11/06 18:36pm] I wish more people would understand this point (Bravo...and thanks for the kind words...)...Newsflash people:You are allowed to dislike any song you want...Hell, you can hate the fuck out of "Black Sweat" for all I care...But if you are going to rationalize your hate for "Black sweat" by saying it's as lazy as say "Sex Me..." or any of the post 90's funk work, you are not listening with unbiased ears...Just say you don't like Prince's straight-no-chaser R&B work and I can respect that...Say that you want him to rock out or experiment, and I can respect this as well...But just because the man is showing his funk/R&B side doesn't mean he's uninspired...it just means you are not willing to face the fact that Prince doesn't easily fit into one box... yep we are on the same page Dance... Let me see you dance | |
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murph said: Alexandernvrmind said: yes absolutely...this post is right on target. It is difficult reading the org sometimes for me becausse P's rock fans dominate...and they dismiss his RB roots and base. In any case Black Sweat its clearly a contemporary dance record with a Prince stamp on it. The falsetto voice and edge with it seperates it from mistaking it from anything else however. Its his classic sound (one of them) just with a 00s spin. The thing that gets me is that people use words like uninspired for Black Sweat and then will claim that Chaos and Disorder and the song Gold are some of his best work. Thats the thing for me...if you like his rock stuff only then at least like the good stuff. I love how Prince does so many different styles well. Its why when I took on listen to the opening synth to Fury last Saturday night and smiled from ear to ear...I knew the rest would be rockin. Its that kind of ear that allows me to seperate a Fury from Cinamin Girl. A Purple Rain from Gold, a Kiss from Glass Cutter..and yes a Black Sweat from Sex Me Sex Me Not [Edited 2/11/06 18:36pm] I wish more people would understand this point (Bravo...and thanks for the kind words...)...Newsflash people:You are allowed to dislike any song you want...Hell, you can hate the fuck out of "Black Sweat" for all I care...But if you are going to rationalize your hate for "Black sweat" by saying it's as lazy as say "Sex Me..." or any of the post 90's funk work, you are not listening with unbiased ears...Just say you don't like Prince's straight-no-chaser R&B work and I can respect that...Say that you want him to rock out or experiment, and I can respect this as well...But just because the man is showing his funk/R&B side doesn't mean he's uninspired...it just means you are not willing to face the fact that Prince doesn't easily fit into one box... thanks to both of y'all for putting into words the things I wanted to say. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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ok...i'm 33, been listening 2 Prince since 'delirious' came out.
i dig the song. 4 those of us who have been waiting 4 him 2 hit the commercial thang; he DID it in his OWN way. talkin' about 'take my clothes off!' i feel almost uncomfortable listening 2 the lyrics coz of the Prince we've had of late.
but he's singing about sweat.
& ya'll know he's gonna tear this THANG up on the live tip, blue angel style the interlude 'scream like a...' was awkward @ 1st...but..damn...that's Prince...the whole "break u off" line is sexy ya'll. & after only recently hearing it, 'te amo corezon' is not that bad; i could play it endlessly & chill  | |
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NouveauDance said: GoldenGlove said: It's good. however, Prince has TALENT. So why waste himself on poppy computerised RnB when he could be making proper music. Remember Bambi? Everlasting Now? Joy In Repetition? Reflection? Endorphinmachine? PURPLE RAIN??
It is a good song, and with the correct promotion it WILL be a hit!! but Prince should leave this stuff to the black eyed peas. he has nothing to proove. But overall 7 out of 10 = good. Let's hope he keeps the deeper/real stuff for the album.
BTW: it reminds me of something off "Rave Un2 The Joy fantastic" 
Yeah, this is generally what I feel - It's got the Rave/High/2000 sound. And like you say, Prince is genre chasing, this sounds very current - and I'm not a fan of current US chart music. For which reason it will probably do well. Bloody Hell !
What are you lot listening to - this sounds absolutely shitall like stuff off rave - and genre chasing - are you insane - the whole stripped down pharell sound was done by Prince 20 years ago. I sometimes think that Prince could produce the most amazing shit ever and some of you guys would bring it down for some reason or another - this tune is very very cool indeed - in fact I can't stop playing it - it kicks like a mule - PS Pharell is shite! lol | |
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murph said:
Hey guys....Sometimes music is not rocket science...Sometimes it's about having fun...People on this site make Prince out to be Mozart 24/7...the dude has released some pretty fun, check your brain at the door tracks over the years..."Black Sweat" is in the same tradition as "Irresitable Bitch," "Horny Toad," "Get Off," ect...I think Prince fans can a be bit too serious about the man...Before I heard "Fury," "Black Sweat" featured as much bad ass energy from the man that I've heard in a long time...I mean, what are we talking about people...It's just a fun song...it's not that serious...Lighten up people....
All i was basicly saying is that, in my opinion, Black Sweat is good but not great. Why would it mean i'm taking it too seriously?? And believe me, what i think of this song has nothing to do with being rock orientated, well at least in my case... and i personnaly can't see how someone could be a Prince fan without liking his R'n'B stuffs... | |
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Gavroche said: murph said:
Hey guys....Sometimes music is not rocket science...Sometimes it's about having fun...People on this site make Prince out to be Mozart 24/7...the dude has released some pretty fun, check your brain at the door tracks over the years..."Black Sweat" is in the same tradition as "Irresitable Bitch," "Horny Toad," "Get Off," ect...I think Prince fans can a be bit too serious about the man...Before I heard "Fury," "Black Sweat" featured as much bad ass energy from the man that I've heard in a long time...I mean, what are we talking about people...It's just a fun song...it's not that serious...Lighten up people....
All i was basicly saying is that, in my opinion, Black Sweat is good but not great. Why would it mean i'm taking it too seriously?? And believe me, what i think of this song has nothing to do with being rock orientated, well at least in my case... and i personnaly can't see how someone could be a Prince fan without liking his R'n'B stuffs... You make some great points...But my comments were not directed at you...cool? I suggest you read my previous post on my thoughts on "Black Sweat".....Peace... [Edited 2/12/06 13:28pm] | |
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