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Reply #150 posted 02/12/06 5:48pm

CalhounSq

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I'm trying to read through these 2 main threads on Black Sweat but I can't find the info yet - is the single out or what?

I gotsta bump this shit in my ride immediately! headbang
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Reply #151 posted 02/12/06 6:02pm

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CalhounSq said:

I'm trying to read through these 2 main threads on Black Sweat but I can't find the info yet - is the single out or what?

I gotsta bump this shit in my ride immediately! headbang


The retail single isn't supposed to be out until March 7, but I also heard Feb 21st so I'm not really sure. It's still not on iTunes either.
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Reply #152 posted 02/12/06 6:10pm

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MarcelJ said:

CalhounSq said:

I'm trying to read through these 2 main threads on Black Sweat but I can't find the info yet - is the single out or what?

I gotsta bump this shit in my ride immediately! headbang


The retail single isn't supposed to be out until March 7, but I also heard Feb 21st so I'm not really sure. It's still not on iTunes either.


DAMN, that's too close to when the album drops. I want that single NOW pout
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Reply #153 posted 02/12/06 6:13pm

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CalhounSq said:

MarcelJ said:



The retail single isn't supposed to be out until March 7, but I also heard Feb 21st so I'm not really sure. It's still not on iTunes either.


DAMN, that's too close to when the album drops. I want that single NOW pout

Me too. Unversal needs to get that song out on iTunes on Tuesday. Great day too since it's Valentines Day.
[Edited 2/12/06 18:14pm]
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Reply #154 posted 02/12/06 9:03pm

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isn't it odd that Prince fans seem to like Black Sweat better, but Beautiful, Loved and Blessed is actually getting more airplay. It's the #1 "taking off" on urban AC

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U2

and #5 on the jump list

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U2

a +123 on 20 stations in the past week
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Reply #155 posted 02/12/06 9:49pm

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alandail said:

isn't it odd that Prince fans seem to like Black Sweat better, but Beautiful, Loved and Blessed is actually getting more airplay. It's the #1 "taking off" on urban AC

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U2

and #5 on the jump list

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U2

a +123 on 20 stations in the past week


Well, kinda, Urban AC is tiny compared with Mainstream Hit and Urban formats. But, indeed it looks like BLB could go to top 3 Urban AC.
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Reply #156 posted 02/12/06 9:57pm

alandail

well, i think BL&B is getting more spins on Urban AC right now than Black Sweat is on all of the other formats combined.
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Reply #157 posted 02/12/06 10:21pm

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alandail said:

well, i think BL&B is getting more spins on Urban AC right now than Black Sweat is on all of the other formats combined.


Understood, but those stations tend to fly under the radar enough that they can add new songs more easily than the larger stations. Black Sweat is on pace with what Madonna's new song was doing a week earlier and has a legit shot at being a very big multi-format hit.

But, I'm not missing your point, in fact, BL&B is #444 on the Urban hit chart and climbing, as well. Still, Black Sweat is being added to several video channels this week, as well as most likely iTunes and with a retail cd and 12" on the way, it's the "hit" that Prince hasn't delivered in over a decade.

By the way, Call My Name was the #5 song on Urban AC for all of 2004 and that song still wasn't considered a "hit".
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Reply #158 posted 02/13/06 2:10am

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Black Sweat is really starting to pick up steam i really dont remember Musicology being added to so many Rhyth/chr or Urban stations like Black Sweat is now
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #159 posted 02/13/06 6:43am

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Mazerati said:

Black Sweat is really starting to pick up steam i really dont remember Musicology being added to so many Rhyth/chr or Urban stations like Black Sweat is now



Great points , Maz, Marcel and Alan. Its looking pretty good . like Alan stated a few posts back On the Taking off Charts...here's Mondays report on 3 formats.


Radio & Records 2/13/06:


Top 40 / Rhythmic: Black Sweat - # 1 "Taking Off"


http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=Y0


Urban Mainstream : Black Sweat # 4 Taking Off

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U1


Urban Adult Contemporary : Beautiful , Loved & Blessed # 1 Taking Off

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U2



Yeah, Maz ...Musicology the single got only a handfull of spins on Urban Mainstream and Top 40 Stations it did go to #7 on the Urban AC chart. But the radio attention thus far for the 2 singles on 3121 is far out pacing Musicology.
[Edited 2/13/06 6:45am]
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Reply #160 posted 02/13/06 6:54am

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Mazerati said:

Black Sweat is really starting to pick up steam i really dont remember Musicology being added to so many Rhyth/chr or Urban stations like Black Sweat is now

strange thing though, cuz I heard Call My Name twice last week on urban radio. I was completely surprised! They've been hating on P for a few years now, and then *this* outta the blue...
I'm hoping they catch on to BS....
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Reply #161 posted 02/13/06 6:57am

alandail

yea, black sweat is starting to take off - and those markets are bigger. It still would be nice to see it getting added as quickly relative to market size as BL&B is on Urban AC.
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Reply #162 posted 02/13/06 7:00am

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alandail said:

yea, black sweat is starting to take off - and those markets are bigger. It still would be nice to see it getting added as quickly relative to market size as BL&B is on Urban AC.



Yeah , you will probably see BL&B on the Top 20 of the Urban AC chart in about a week. Its approaching 200 spins quickly.
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Reply #163 posted 02/13/06 7:13am

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alandail said:

well, i think BL&B is getting more spins on Urban AC right now than Black Sweat is on all of the other formats combined.


In answering the question of which song is getting more exposure..its about equal. Looking at the Audience reach on those charts , if you add them up.


Black Sweat :
Top 40/ Main: .074 million
Top 40/ Rhythmic : .774 million
Urban Main ; .408 million

Total : 1.256 milliom


BL&B
Urban AC: 1.247 million
Urban Main : .040 milliom

Total : 1.287 million
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Reply #164 posted 02/13/06 7:19am

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newpower99 said:

Mazerati said:

Black Sweat is really starting to pick up steam i really dont remember Musicology being added to so many Rhyth/chr or Urban stations like Black Sweat is now



Great points , Maz, Marcel and Alan. Its looking pretty good . like Alan stated a few posts back On the Taking off Charts...here's Mondays report on 3 formats.


Radio & Records 2/13/06:


Top 40 / Rhythmic: Black Sweat - # 1 "Taking Off"


http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=Y0


Urban Mainstream : Black Sweat # 4 Taking Off

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U1


Urban Adult Contemporary : Beautiful , Loved & Blessed # 1 Taking Off

http://www.mmr247.com/mmr...p?chart=U2



Yeah, Maz ...Musicology the single got only a handfull of spins on Urban Mainstream and Top 40 Stations it did go to #7 on the Urban AC chart. But the radio attention thus far for the 2 singles on 3121 is far out pacing Musicology.
[Edited 2/13/06 6:45am]



it will be a shame if Prince doesn't release Black Sweat on Itunes because with this airplay this could be his 1st major hit in 10 years
Check it out ...Shiny Toy Guns R gonna blowup VERY soon and bring melody back to music..you heard it here 1st! http://www.myspacecomment...theone.mp3
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Reply #165 posted 02/13/06 10:58am

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Black Sweat is still moving, yes guys Musicology wasn't getting any movement like this.

Black Sweat on Mainstream Hit radio chart.

Feb 8 #205
Feb 9 #193
Feb 10 #177
Feb 11 #167
Feb 12 #150

Mainstream Urban radio.

Feb 9 #188
Feb 11 #126
Feb 12 #116

Rhythmic Hit Radio

Feb 11 #184
Feb 12 #173
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Reply #166 posted 02/13/06 11:01am

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You know, as I was in the elevator at work this morning, I was looking at the screens that flash news headlines....

They actually mentioned Prince and the purple ticket marketing scheme in 3121. It was very interesting to see that. headbang
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Reply #167 posted 02/13/06 11:14am

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Its getting good airplay on Kiss FM.
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Reply #168 posted 02/13/06 1:26pm

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Black Sweat is so funky my grand mother 75yrs. Turns it up and sings along "working with the black sweat". This song is sure to be a hit! I can't wait till i'm at the club and can buss the hard moves.

I'll keep on screamin like a white lady!

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Reply #169 posted 02/13/06 1:51pm

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xpsiter said:

You know, as I was in the elevator at work this morning, I was looking at the screens that flash news headlines....

They actually mentioned Prince and the purple ticket marketing scheme in 3121. It was very interesting to see that. headbang


What's the "purple ticket marketing scheme"?? hmmm
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Reply #170 posted 02/13/06 4:08pm

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Total video spins Spins 4 2/13/06:

MTV Black Sweat Spins: 3

VH1 Black Sweat Spins: 1

VH1 Te Amo Corazon Spins: 1
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Reply #171 posted 02/13/06 4:11pm

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MarcelJ said:

As good as the new songs are, WE are his core audience and we have to be willing to make some calls to radio stations, MTV, etc. It's not just gonna happen because Universal makes it happen. For 3121 to be a hit, fans will have to step up.



This is very true.

You think Mariah's success was all due to her appearances? Nope. Her fan club was all over it. They offer prizes and other things for getting it to number one on TRL and added at radio stations.

Getting an email from them every day was annoying but boy did it work.
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Reply #172 posted 02/13/06 10:32pm

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jseven said:

MarcelJ said:

As good as the new songs are, WE are his core audience and we have to be willing to make some calls to radio stations, MTV, etc. It's not just gonna happen because Universal makes it happen. For 3121 to be a hit, fans will have to step up.



This is very true.

You think Mariah's success was all due to her appearances? Nope. Her fan club was all over it. They offer prizes and other things for getting it to number one on TRL and added at radio stations.

Getting an email from them every day was annoying but boy did it work.



Except We Belong Together was a much better song than Black Sweat....
"Just like the sun, the Rainbow Children rise."



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Reply #173 posted 02/14/06 4:36am

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rainbowchild said:

jseven said:




This is very true.

You think Mariah's success was all due to her appearances? Nope. Her fan club was all over it. They offer prizes and other things for getting it to number one on TRL and added at radio stations.

Getting an email from them every day was annoying but boy did it work.



Except We Belong Together was a much better song than Black Sweat....



I that'l be right then my friend..
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Reply #174 posted 02/14/06 7:03am

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rainbowchild said:

jseven said:




This is very true.

You think Mariah's success was all due to her appearances? Nope. Her fan club was all over it. They offer prizes and other things for getting it to number one on TRL and added at radio stations.

Getting an email from them every day was annoying but boy did it work.



Except We Belong Together was a much better song than Black Sweat....

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Reply #175 posted 02/14/06 7:58am

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still looks like its not on itunes. this is starting to look like a mistake on the part of whomever is doing the marketing of this.
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Reply #176 posted 02/14/06 8:01am

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Look at this article from Hits daily:

SINGING A DIFFERENT ITUNES:
Is the record industry reassessing its relationship with iTunes regarding pre-album-release of singles? Amid widespread fears that sales of individual tracks are cannibalizing album purchases, at least two labels are taking action. Def Jam/IDJ will not make the current Ne-Yo smash, “So Sick,” available on iTunes until after the album is released on Feb. 28. Some industry observers are wondering, for example, how much bigger the first week on Jive/ZLG artist Chris Brown’s debut album might have been without the enormous amount of downloads sold on the radio smash, “Run It.” (2/13p)
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Reply #177 posted 02/14/06 9:24am

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linus4000 said:

Look at this article from Hits daily:

SINGING A DIFFERENT ITUNES:
Is the record industry reassessing its relationship with iTunes regarding pre-album-release of singles? Amid widespread fears that sales of individual tracks are cannibalizing album purchases, at least two labels are taking action. Def Jam/IDJ will not make the current Ne-Yo smash, “So Sick,” available on iTunes until after the album is released on Feb. 28. Some industry observers are wondering, for example, how much bigger the first week on Jive/ZLG artist Chris Brown’s debut album might have been without the enormous amount of downloads sold on the radio smash, “Run It.” (2/13p)



Interesting...This may explain things...
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Reply #178 posted 02/14/06 9:54pm

jseven

Video Spins 4 02/14/06

Black Sweat VH1 spins: 1

Te Amo Corazon VH1 Spins: 1

Black Sweat MTV Spins: 4


MTV played Black Sweat 4 times out of their 6 hour video block.

Total since video debuted on 2/13/06:

Black Sweat VH1 Spins: 2

Te Amo Corazon VH1 Spins: 2

Black Sweat MTV Spins: 7*

(*Cinnamon Girl only received 10 spins in total on MTV in 1 month of play. Black Sweat looks like it will eclipse that total 2morrow in only 3 days of play!)

This is only counting MTV & VH1, the main channels, not MTV Hits or VH1 Soul, just the ones with the most subscribers/viewers, i.e. more impact.
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Reply #179 posted 02/14/06 10:16pm

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jseven said:

MarcelJ said:

As good as the new songs are, WE are his core audience and we have to be willing to make some calls to radio stations, MTV, etc. It's not just gonna happen because Universal makes it happen. For 3121 to be a hit, fans will have to step up.



This is very true.

You think Mariah's success was all due to her appearances? Nope. Her fan club was all over it. They offer prizes and other things for getting it to number one on TRL and added at radio stations.

Getting an email from them every day was annoying but boy did it work.



Shutup it is probably her best album to date.
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