ChristopherTracyParade said:

My point exactly. Thanks for helping me prove it once again. That has NOOOOTHING to do with the fact that his music matters to me and tons of his other fans.

JasonStar said:

Well, if it's JUST his MUSIC that MATTERS TO YOU, why did YOU go to SUPPORT HIM at his CHILD MOLESTATION TRIAL?...It's JUST his MUSIC you're into...remember?

U R comparing chalk and cheese there, the only similarities Prince ND mJ may have had, is that they were both black, successful in the 80s and they wore make up and could dance, but Princes fans have a lot more maturity and discerning taste in what they listen too. Come on!!!Who took Invincible seriously, it was shit (altho same year as dreadful TRC). Prince is more a REAL PERSON and he has TALENT!!!, SOmething Jacko lost a long time ago.
But some fans are a bit loopy I guess some of our hardcore orgers maybe, but we love em so and I believe these are geniunely cool people.

ChristopherTracyParade said:

BECAUSE WHO MADE THE MUSIC? HE DID!
You can't have music without the artist. Without MJ - I wouldn't have those songs that are so near and dear to my heart. Same as, without P - none of us orgers would have 1999, SOTT, and all of it, (heck we wouldn't even have this site without P.) The point is.....
I wanted to support and see out of my own eyes, the person who brought all that music into the world. His music has been by my side for aslong as I can remember, and so this was my chance to be by his side, in some form, so I did it, and I don't regret it.
[Edited 1/29/06 0:50am]

prettymansson said:

Hey, you said a lot of shit I can agree with...props!!!

BUT!!!! Can we stop with the "you are a talented hack because you sample" bullshit...It's getting a little tired folks...I'm a musical snob like the next person on the Org....But I also understand that the brilliance of an artist like Tupac (who I respect, but I'm far from ride-or-die fan...) as fucked up and contradictory as he was, is not whether or not he is rhyming over samples or can't tell you a chord from a E Flat for Christ sakes!!!...It's because the man touched a lot of folks across-the-board with his emotional lyricism...you guys are the same folks who couldn't distinguish Nelly from Rakim....Lumping hip-hop artists together as talentless hacks shows a lack of vision...It's like folks will give the Sex Pistols (Who i dig by the way!) props just because they "played" instruments (the cats only knew two cords, but I, like any fair-minded individual understands that musicianship wasn't a part of the appeal of the lads) and dismiss someone like DJ Premier, Prince Paul or Juicy J, Just Blaze ect because they can't play a guitar...give it a rest and open your minds folks...Now back to the discussion....
[Edited 1/29/06 2:16am]

skywalker said:

How is it different? That's an easy one. It isn't. They're all just as bad.

(wanted to use this somewhere ever since I've seen this one)

Mazerati said:

Though I'm sure the most eccentric Prince fans can give Michael's fans a run for their money. But MJ fans probably only win in sheer numbers. I would guess that MJ has more worldwide fans. As huge as Prince is, Michael still has more diehards. Damn, they'd have to be. His catalogue is nowhere near as large as Prince's but he is still "arguably" the greatest entertainer that ever lived. I'm not comparing talents because I think they are both amazingly talented in different ways. Prince has never seen the heights of Thriller, and all the media frenzy that came with it (lucky for him). As much as MJ has been exposed to the highs and lows of the industry, he is entitled to eccentricity in my opinion.

i totally thought this thread was in non-prince: music..



well, my statement still stands..im watching this thread and if someone gets out of line im reporting you to the moderators of this forum..

:mrgeen:

JasonStar said:

But you don;t get it: You can actually support the music without supporting the man. Yet YOU choose to to support the man that made the music. You're contradicting yourself and it's ridicuously obvious.

sosgemini said:

Can we say something like...?

Michael Jackson is pathetic.

Because it is the truth and it isn't like I am calling another orger pathetic, or am I

PurpleKnight said:

I was there. Knight is speaking the truth. I distictly recall reading "that's pathetic" not "your pathetic" althought I was thinking the second one. Maybe we all were.

nurse said:

Hit the nail on the head.Of course u will have ur wacked out fans 4 both artists hell even other bands or artists but an artist's fans r his fans and should b respected 4 that reason.Was this topic raised becuz of the allegations towards mj and the coverage it was getting????.No matter what ppl believe about these allegations toward mj it would seem that most of the planet had him guilty b4 his trial neway.His fans were there 2 support him and i ponder if that was the reason y this question was raised as maybe the person who asked this question was 1 of those who mj guilty b4 his trial...But those r just my thoughts

oh MJ fans are more whacked out, no doubt.

you'd have to be whacked out to even tolerate him or his music for a single second let alone obsess over him.

his music is totally over-rated.
he has about 3 dance moves that havent changed in 20 years (all of which suck, btw).
and why is he a pioneer? because he made a bunch of music videos that looked like really bad broadway shows?

i wish this site wouldnt be so littered with references to him..in fact, i wish the org would just abolish them already.
lets stop perpetuating the Prince and mj comparison, it just brings down Prince's name to be constantly put in the same category as mj.

sosgemini said:

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"I think the difference is none of those artists you mentioned, were on trial for child molestaion, none of those people got their skinned whitened, hung out with little boys, slept with little boys in his bed and thought it was "ok", had animals all over his house, created Disneyland on his fuckin' property, hung out with a fuckin' chimp named Bubbles, had 4,976 nose jobs, tried to make themselves look like Peter fuckin' Pan, and thinks that they are STILL a child...basically, none of those artists were as fucked up in the head as MJ is.

There. I HOPE that explains the differences between THOSE FANS and MJ FANS."

1st of all--- Michael Jackson isn't the ONLY rock star who is down right bizaare. Elvis was right up there with him- if you've read anything or know anything about elvis in the 70's the dude was right up there with MJ as far as odd behavior goes. Most educated Elvis fans can tell you- he had sex with Pricilla before she was 18 and married her as soon as she was of age. One could easily make a strong case that Elvis was as fucked in the head as MJ. Other rock stars as well. I mean, read up on Mick Jagger and David Bowie. A lot of rock stars have done some freakish things. Basically anything MJ has done-other rock stars have done before him. Jerry Lee Lewis, Cher, Elvis, etc. Look into it.

2ndly, I am not defending MJ's actions-just saying a lot if rock stars are bizaare and they all have dangerously devoted fans.
[Edited 1/29/06 13:44pm]

Uh, yeah, you keep believing that.

Again, this is MORE proof that MJ fans are pretty fuckin' out there and thus making CONFIRMATION that they are more fucked up in the head than Prince fans.

ChristopherTracyParade said:

ChristopherTracyParade , why all the hostility? Read my post. Did I say I thought MJ was sane and an all around swell guy? Nope. Just said famous rock stars are often very bizaare and they inspire odd and scary fans. MJ isn't the only example of this. Was I defending MJ or his fans? Not really. Just saying their are tons of out there fans for everything. The way you jumped on me and decided to hold me up as proof of anything suggests that you have some kind of angry agenda. Don't like MJ ? That's fine-he's not my favorite either. However, you are acting very confrontational towards me for no apparent reason. I was trying to have a mature conversation with you (NOT defend MJ or his fans) sorry if that was too much for you.
[Edited 1/29/06 17:31pm]

skywalker said:

Wow, I didn't know you had the power to be able to tell if someone is angry over the internet from just a post? What makes you think I'm angry? My use of CAPITAL LETTERS? Does that SCARE YOU? BOO! LOL!

All I did was show where wacked out MJ fans try and make excuses for his bizarre behavior by mentioning that OTHER artists are odd. THAT'S my point: MJ fans try and make excuses for a man that is OBVIOUSLY in need of PSYCHIATRIC TREATMENT. The day you can show me an artist that sleeps in bed with kids, thinks it's OK to sleep in bed with kids, has an amusement park on his/her premises, had a pet chimp, whitened his skin, destroyed his face through plastic surgery, and still thinks he's a kid...THEN you can PROPERLY defend MJ.

(I sure hope my CAPITAL LETTERS DIDN'T SCARE THIS PERSON TOO MUCH... )

scrambledeggsaresoboring said:

well, I guess we can no longer discuss Life O' The Party. Tell Prince to stop mentioning him or referencing old J5 songs.

I'm so tired of all the sensitive MJ fans that I'm this close from suggesting we give 15 to the next person who starts a thread remotedly about him in this here Prince forum.
[Edited 1/30/06 14:07pm]

ChristopherTracyParade said:

Again, where am I defending MJ???? All I am saying is that MANY rockstars are freaks and bizaare. Did I say that makes illegal behavior or scary fan worship okay? No. I simply was asking you to compare the fanaticism of OTHER rock stars to that of MJ and give me your thoughts. Obviously you haven't been to the South where you are likely to find a picture of Elvis hanging up next to a picture of Jesus in a living room. I am disappointed that instead of discussing this aspect of rock star worship you decided to jump down my throat and accuse me of being a MJ defender. Thanks for showing you how much you hate MJ--- I don't care---I don't really dig him either. You insist on trying to paint me as a big MJ supporter-I was simply trying to ask you about other rock stars and fan bases who show just as much oddness and devotion, not trying to defend MJ.

skywalker said:

Obviously you're an avid MJ fan trying to front like you aren't. I will pose this question to you rhn adn we'll see if you can answer it:

Show me an artist that tops this:

Sleeps in bed with kids, thinks it's OK to sleep in bed with kids, has an amusement park on his premises, had a pet chimp, whitened his skin, destroyed his face through plastic surgery, wants to look like Peter Pan, REFUSES to use HIS OWN SPERM to have kids, and still thinks he IS a kid.

Can you? No. Case closed. They don't call him WACKO JACKO for nothing.
[Edited 1/29/06 20:29pm]

.....yall wanna kno why there is no such threads like this at mjboards?










.....guess.....



























shamone! guess!

Nvncible1 said:

They've got bigger things to worry about

Nvncible1 said:

Because the answer is even more obvious to them?

This is not a general statement on every single person that happens to be a MJ fan. It just so happens MJ has collected more than his per capita share of deranged fans worldwide. With the kind of career he had, it's hardly a surprise.