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Reply #30 posted 01/24/06 9:14am

tripp

Don't forget the recent Musiclogy tour saw the 'retiring' of his 'hits' which suggests moving forward rather than looking back. I do believe that is why so many 80s tracks were performed as against the 90s and 00s. In other words rather than Prince believing himself that these were the 'hits' they were the songs that he wished to 'retire'.

yeah, but do we really believe that on this next tour, he won't be playing his famous hits.
look at alllll the other things he said he wont do, then does.
noituloveR lautiripS weN a fo gninwaD eht si sihT
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Reply #31 posted 01/24/06 9:19am

Universaluv

FunkMistress said:

Universaluv said:



Mariah Carey, whether she was too fat to wear that bikini.


I disagree. Lauryn Hill is perfectly sane. Leave her alone! mad


Whatever! talk to the hand You know Lisa and Wendy are soooo overrated!
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Reply #32 posted 01/24/06 9:42am

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Universaluv said:

FunkMistress said:



I disagree. Lauryn Hill is perfectly sane. Leave her alone! mad


Whatever! talk to the hand You know Lisa and Wendy are soooo overrated!


omfg

Anxiety's leaving???
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Reply #33 posted 01/24/06 10:07am

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Hey, don't tell anybody, but some trusted sources have told me that Mani's pregnant...
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Reply #34 posted 01/24/06 11:06am

Universaluv

FunkMistress said:

Universaluv said:



Whatever! talk to the hand You know Lisa and Wendy are soooo overrated!


omfg

Anxiety's leaving???


Stymie's Hetero! thumbs up!
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Reply #35 posted 01/24/06 11:14am

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Universaluv said:

FunkMistress said:



omfg

Anxiety's leaving???


Stymie's Hetero! thumbs up!


disbelief

Low blow.

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Reply #36 posted 01/24/06 11:49am

MIGUELGOMEZ

I agree 100% of Anx's essay.

I also wish that one day I can pick up a new Prince cd and hear funky synth sounds, experimental drumming and beautiful and strange vocal harmonies. I want Ear Candy. I don't want something that sounds like an all jazz revue. I want funky, weird, experimental Prince music. He can do it.


M
MyeternalgrattitudetoPhil&Val.Herman said "We want sweaty truckers at the truck stop! We want cigar puffing men that look like they wanna beat the living daylights out of us" Val"sporking is spooning with benefits"
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Reply #37 posted 01/24/06 11:52am

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Universaluv said:

XxAxX said:

i'm sorry - what was this thread about again?


Mariah Carey, whether she was too fat to wear that bikini.




well, bikini or not i just WISH she'd keep her hands off of other womens' men. i mean, just look at what she did to poor brad pitt's marriage disbelief
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Reply #38 posted 01/24/06 12:11pm

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tripp said:

Don't forget the recent Musiclogy tour saw the 'retiring' of his 'hits' which suggests moving forward rather than looking back. I do believe that is why so many 80s tracks were performed as against the 90s and 00s. In other words rather than Prince believing himself that these were the 'hits' they were the songs that he wished to 'retire'.

yeah, but do we really believe that on this next tour, he won't be playing his famous hits.
look at alllll the other things he said he wont do, then does.


True. He's been talking about retiring the hits for ten years. I've never been to a concert where he didn't play Purple Rain and I wish he would retire it--though I was surprised how good it still was in 2004!

His live stuff is in need of attention, too. He could release that without WB participation, right? Lovesexy tour. Nude tour. Come on Prince!

Good post!
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Reply #39 posted 01/24/06 12:34pm

XxAxX

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FunkMistress said:

Universaluv said:



Mariah Carey, whether she was too fat to wear that bikini.


I disagree. Lauryn Hill is perfectly sane. Leave her alone! mad



well, personally the fact that she insists on wearing a vial of her lover's blood around her neck just seems a tad.....eccentric imo. maybe even insane
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Reply #40 posted 01/24/06 12:59pm

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XxAxX said:

FunkMistress said:



I disagree. Lauryn Hill is perfectly sane. Leave her alone! mad



well, personally the fact that she insists on wearing a vial of her lover's blood around her neck just seems a tad.....eccentric imo. maybe even insane


All I know is, I'd never recommend her book to anyone. disbelief
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Reply #41 posted 01/24/06 1:01pm

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XxAxX said:




well, personally the fact that she insists on wearing a vial of her lover's blood around her neck just seems a tad.....eccentric imo. maybe even insane


All I know is, I'd never recommend her book to anyone. disbelief



i know! and when she was jumping up and down on that couch on oprah well~! SUCH an exhibition. i don't care HOW in love a person is, that kinda of madness should be contained imho nod
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Reply #42 posted 01/24/06 1:04pm

Universaluv

XxAxX said:

FunkMistress said:



All I know is, I'd never recommend her book to anyone. disbelief



i know! and when she was jumping up and down on that couch on oprah well~! SUCH an exhibition. i don't care HOW in love a person is, that kinda of madness should be contained imho nod



If you ask me, she never got over the sand dollar incident. Damn you Prince! mad
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Reply #43 posted 01/24/06 1:06pm

XxAxX

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Universaluv said:

XxAxX said:




i know! and when she was jumping up and down on that couch on oprah well~! SUCH an exhibition. i don't care HOW in love a person is, that kinda of madness should be contained imho nod



If you ask me, she never got over the sand dollar incident. Damn you Prince! mad




you gotta admit - there's a lot about prince that bugs us nod
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Reply #44 posted 01/24/06 2:08pm

origmnd

What can u expect from someone who LIVES to be contradictory?

He gets off or lives off the internal male/female struggle within his mind and
soul.

Let's hope the little man & woman in his mind get into a ferocious screaming match and then have incredible make-up sex.
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Reply #45 posted 01/24/06 2:08pm

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Universaluv said:

XxAxX said:




i know! and when she was jumping up and down on that couch on oprah well~! SUCH an exhibition. i don't care HOW in love a person is, that kinda of madness should be contained imho nod



If you ask me, she never got over the sand dollar incident. Damn you Prince! mad


It's time people forgave her for abandoning folk & going electric, though.
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Reply #46 posted 01/24/06 2:38pm

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You certainly put it more diplomatically than I have Anx.

I agree, and the song Musicology was a case in point, which I said before, but just briefly reiterate: The song talks about missing the feeling music used to bring, yet the song itself doesn't give those qualities that we all miss from popular music, because the song is set in the past - and it's not the past music we miss, it's the feeling it gave us - Which Prince says himself.

No good giving us a James Brown pastiche, when 20 years ago it would've been some ass-kicking groove with a *nod* to James Brown, but didn't ape that style to the point of parody. Surely we all see the irony here?

Maybe it's a phase Prince is going through, exploring his heros and influences for inspiration (because that stuff used to inspire him as a kid?) - I dunno.

I think I just don't wanna see him fluff up his legacy by being a brat or a penny-pincher. That legacy is his 80s albums, it always will be, so it would be a shame if he stood in the way of any remasters or unreleased material or live shows getting released, just to prove a point. Because that stuff from that period should have the right to shine it's brightest.


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Reply #47 posted 01/24/06 4:59pm

XxAxX

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andyman91 said:

Universaluv said:




If you ask me, she never got over the sand dollar incident. Damn you Prince! mad


It's time people forgave her for abandoning folk & going electric, though.


i think she was pressured into it. hanging around with tommy and the other heavy metal types something had to give
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Reply #48 posted 01/24/06 5:28pm

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Obviously, Prince dwells in the past more then we do. His need to reach that top of the charts again is one obvious fact. His use of old style music and old moves seems mired in the dinosaur age. He is the one who cannot look forward, since his music doesn't become more futuristic, like it used to. His is a backwards time travel scene; the wicked witch is flying into the cyclone, instead of away from it. Prince becoming a big time record company shill again proves this fact out. And frankly, putting out the old stuff does help him move forward, because without dropping away the chains of the past, how can one walk free into the light of new beginnings?
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #49 posted 01/24/06 5:29pm

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Anxiety just likes to have his name on here a lot.lol
All you others say Hell Yea!! woot!
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Reply #50 posted 01/24/06 6:17pm

Posthumous

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Anxiety just likes to have his name on here a lot.lol


watch yer filthy mouth, o double-posting one. lol
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Reply #51 posted 01/24/06 7:36pm

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MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I agree 100% of Anx's essay.

I also wish that one day I can pick up a new Prince cd and hear funky synth sounds, experimental drumming and beautiful and strange vocal harmonies. I want Ear Candy. I don't want something that sounds like an all jazz revue. I want funky, weird, experimental Prince music. He can do it.


M



worship Anx

worship MIGUELGOMEZ

rose
I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #52 posted 01/24/06 7:57pm

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Nothinbutjoy said:

MIGUELGOMEZ said:

I agree 100% of Anx's essay.

I also wish that one day I can pick up a new Prince cd and hear funky synth sounds, experimental drumming and beautiful and strange vocal harmonies. I want Ear Candy. I don't want something that sounds like an all jazz revue. I want funky, weird, experimental Prince music. He can do it.


M



worship Anx

worship MIGUELGOMEZ

rose

I 2nd that. Ever since Te Amo Corazon dropped I've thought a lot about what I don't want in a Prince record and Anx brought it all out with this thread and Miguel said everything I want in a Prince CD. The 3121 album is the first CD that I'm not as excited about getting as before. I'm tired of Prince sticking to a formula. He still has it in nim to continue creating his his own formula, I just don't know why he plays it safe. Is he greedy? Is he complacent? Is he both or neither one? Who knows but what I do know is that Prince needs to just do what he does best: he needs to be him. Not Sly, James, Larry G or anyone else. Just Prince. And if he wants them big sales so bad, being himself is gonna bring it. My 2 cents on the issue.
I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that
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Reply #53 posted 01/24/06 8:11pm

murph

Anx said:

Universaluv said:


New fans? Just a bunch of ogg vorbis audiophile snobs more likely wink

Actually, you're probably right, but absent a serious renegotiation between him and WB, I just don't see practically how you convince him to go back to workin with them. On old stuff no less!

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ok, well, let's focus on the other side of the issue, then. if it's not about dwelling on the past, how about keeping an ear tuned to sounds yet to be made, instead of languishing in the 'old skool' and reminding people of old classic soul music of which we're already quite well aware?


Well, i think the answer is evident...Prince is no different from any other aging music artist...When you have been on the cutting edge and so in-your-face throughout much of your career, what's the most logical next step? You go back to your roots; you go back to what made you want to record music in the first place...For Prince, this is his way of doing something entirely different: By being normal.As much as us fans don't like to admit it, Prince is human, y'all...It's the same thing as Bruce Springsteen making a folk album...We all look back at the past sooner or later...It happens people...
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Reply #54 posted 01/24/06 8:34pm

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murph said:

Anx said:



ok, well, let's focus on the other side of the issue, then. if it's not about dwelling on the past, how about keeping an ear tuned to sounds yet to be made, instead of languishing in the 'old skool' and reminding people of old classic soul music of which we're already quite well aware?


Well, i think the answer is evident...Prince is no different from any other aging music artist...When you have been on the cutting edge and so in-your-face throughout much of your career, what's the most logical next step? You go back to your roots; you go back to what made you want to record music in the first place...For Prince, this is his way of doing something entirely different: By being normal.As much as us fans don't like to admit it, Prince is human, y'all...It's the same thing as Bruce Springsteen making a folk album...We all look back at the past sooner or later...It happens people...
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Sure it does but WHEN WILL IT END?????


pray Let it be now...let it be now...
I'm firmly planted in denial
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Reply #55 posted 01/24/06 8:40pm

murph

Nothinbutjoy said:

murph said:



Well, i think the answer is evident...Prince is no different from any other aging music artist...When you have been on the cutting edge and so in-your-face throughout much of your career, what's the most logical next step? You go back to your roots; you go back to what made you want to record music in the first place...For Prince, this is his way of doing something entirely different: By being normal.As much as us fans don't like to admit it, Prince is human, y'all...It's the same thing as Bruce Springsteen making a folk album...We all look back at the past sooner or later...It happens people...
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Sure it does but WHEN WILL IT END?????



pray Let it be now...let it be now...


It ends when Prince leaves this earth and when we decide to move on from our own obsession of the past...There are plenty of other artists out there that can take your mind to new places...Putting the burden on a damn near 50-year-old legend, practicing Jehova Witness is a little ridiculous...
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Reply #56 posted 01/24/06 8:59pm

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murph said:

Nothinbutjoy said:




Sure it does but WHEN WILL IT END?????



pray Let it be now...let it be now...


It ends when Prince leaves this earth and when we decide to move on from our own obsession of the past...There are plenty of other artists out there that can take your mind to new places...Putting the burden on a damn near 50-year-old legend, practicing Jehova Witness is a little ridiculous...
[Edited 1/24/06 20:40pm]


Yeah you're so right...none of us will be happy until Prince is writhing around in a trench and legwarmers, swearing and bumping and grinding.

And he's approaching 50 so he can't possible have anything worthwhile to contribute anymore...we should let him go out the pasture and stud.


(Actually, I kinda like that last idea....)
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Reply #57 posted 01/24/06 11:05pm

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Anx said:

Universaluv said:


New fans? Just a bunch of ogg vorbis audiophile snobs more likely wink

Actually, you're probably right, but absent a serious renegotiation between him and WB, I just don't see practically how you convince him to go back to workin with them. On old stuff no less!

.
[Edited 1/24/06 8:37am]


ok, well, let's focus on the other side of the issue, then. if it's not about dwelling on the past, how about keeping an ear tuned to sounds yet to be made, instead of languishing in the 'old skool' and reminding people of old classic soul music of which we're already quite well aware?


clapping


Agree 100%
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Reply #58 posted 01/24/06 11:15pm

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origmnd said:

What can u expect from someone who LIVES to be contradictory?

He gets off or lives off the internal male/female struggle within his mind and
soul.

Let's hope the little man & woman in his mind get into a ferocious screaming match and then have incredible make-up sex.

drooling
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Reply #59 posted 01/24/06 11:21pm

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purplecam said:

Nothinbutjoy said:




worship Anx

worship MIGUELGOMEZ

rose

I 2nd that. Ever since Te Amo Corazon dropped I've thought a lot about what I don't want in a Prince record and Anx brought it all out with this thread and Miguel said everything I want in a Prince CD. The 3121 album is the first CD that I'm not as excited about getting as before. I'm tired of Prince sticking to a formula. He still has it in nim to continue creating his his own formula, I just don't know why he plays it safe. Is he greedy? Is he complacent? Is he both or neither one? Who knows but what I do know is that Prince needs to just do what he does best: he needs to be him. Not Sly, James, Larry G or anyone else. Just Prince. And if he wants them big sales so bad, being himself is gonna bring it. My 2 cents on the issue.


And there we have it. No one sane wants Purple Rain pt. 2, and no one sane is going to try saying Prince should be doing this or that.

Just Prince, whatever that may be at this week. That's all we're asking for, little man. We'll still be here when you come back. smile
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