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Thread started 01/17/06 10:20pm

XVI

RIAA certifications

Can we get a list?

Thanks
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Reply #1 posted 01/17/06 10:30pm

NPG2045

Scroll 2 the bottom there's a pretty good list:

http://www.rockonthenet.c...e_main.htm

XVI said:

Can we get a list?

Thanks
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Reply #2 posted 01/19/06 1:01am

shaomi

RIAA suck!
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Reply #3 posted 01/19/06 1:11am

Edu

You can find (almost) everything you need to know about Prince sales in US in this thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/174573

including the last RIAA certification given to each album and the correspondent certification year.
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Reply #4 posted 01/19/06 11:09am

talk2bill2

Edu said:

You can find (almost) everything you need to know about Prince sales in US in this thread:

http://www.prince.org/msg/7/174573

including the last RIAA certification given to each album and the correspondent certification year.


that is not true by a long way,., thoes are ONLY soundscan and that started in the 90's... it is about 25% correct.
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Reply #5 posted 01/19/06 4:24pm

Edu

You can believe it or not, i say it again, it includes all his latest certifications for each album. Now if each latest certification gives the acurate sales of each album till the present it's another story.
People should read everything that it's written there before making comments.

What i presented there it's Prince COMPLETE Soundscan sales of the last 15 years (like you said since 1991), as given to me by Billboard Online as a reply to my email (i'm the Eduardo from Portugal), please see : http://www.billboard.com/.../index.jsp , with some missing sales given by a friend from a charts forum who has access to some Soundscan data. The certifications from RIAA correspond to what you can find in the RIAA database and they refer to sales since 1978. If you really have doubts about Soundscan methods or RIAA way of certifying sales, please ask me about your doubts instead of saying that i'm not saying the truth neutral
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Reply #6 posted 01/19/06 6:28pm

talk2bill2

Edu said:

You can believe it or not, i say it again, it includes all his latest certifications for each album.


I did say you were lying and i did not mean to attack you. ALl i said that data is far from complete. It dosn't say how many albums he really has sold. Sure the certifications give some idea as to how many but even they are not accurate (PR is Diamond for one thing and that is left off).

it also leaves off all the non-soundscan sales as well as other outlets for songs and albums. in other words the assertion that it "all you need to know" (almost or not) is not true. as the data is flawed and incomplete.
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Reply #7 posted 01/20/06 1:05am

Edu

All the rest you maybe want to know about Prince sales (USA and Worldwide) it's being constructed by me for a forum about charts and sales, as soon as i finish it i will present here all the data i have. Then i believe you will feel more satisfied (i can say right away that some 80's Prince albums could be upgraded by RIAA). But you should be happy with the Soundscan sales for Prince. IT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT "BILLBOARD ONLINE" GIVES COMPLETE SOUNDSCAN FIGURES FOR AN ARTIST COMPLETE DISCOGRAPHY, they never did that before and probably will never do again (i hope i'm wrong), and this kind of information you couldn't find anywhere else, i can say that because i have been searching for Prince data for more than 10 years now. And it was in reply to an email of me. At least we know that in the last 15 years Prince sold more than 18 MILLION albums in USA, outside USA and before 1991 worldwide it's what i will talk about soon. I need some time, i'm having exams. I Collect Prince information (besides music) for more than 20 years, it's not that i'm making up things out of my mind. I hope you understand that i have a passion about this side of Prince career and i'm very interested in finding the most realistic picture of Prince success in commercial terms.

Purple Rain is Diamond and i left it off??? Please read again :

"Purple Rain" (1984; 2.3 million; 13xPlatinum in 1996)

Diamond is 10xPlatinum, 13xPlatinum its 3 more Platinum awards than a Diamond, how can you say it's not accurate?
It received a Diamond in 1999 but that was for its sales till 1989. Its latest sales certification was in 1996, the above mentioned 13xPlatinum for 13 million sales (higher than Diamond's 10 million).
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Reply #8 posted 01/20/06 5:56am

talk2bill2

i have to say i may have over reacted. i just hate soundscam... i am sure you will remember when they started that mess.
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Reply #9 posted 01/20/06 8:25am

scrambledeggsa
resoboring

i thought it was weird that parada and sott are so close to eachother in sales... i definitely would have thought that sott would outpace anything else in the catalog, not only because its great, but because of the acclaim it still gets.
also, i thought the guy from billboard said that he doesnt think the albums need to be recertified.. but im not sure about that... i remember in the 80's reading about how prince's sales have eroded from purple rain and i remember seeing sales of parade and sott around 1.8 million each... so, if they have sold a couple hundred thousand copies in the last few years, then they should be certified double platinum.
i have no idea why this matters in my life.
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Reply #10 posted 01/20/06 9:40am

PurpleRein

Who's number five, and who's number six on this list...huh..?...huh?...anyone?...bueller?...ferris beuller?
http://www.rockonthenet.c...oppop1.htm
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Reply #11 posted 01/20/06 10:59am

Edu

hi talk2bill2,

i know people who are new in this matters of certifications and sales get confused many time, and i reality things at the beginning are real a bit confuse.

Yes, the (nice) guy from Billboard said he thinks Prince doesn't need upgrades but he is wrong because he doesn't have the figures i have for Prince sales before 1991. Even a 90's album, "The Hits 1" is candidate to an upgrade, it sold 1.4m by Soundscan figures, it sold an additional 500,000 in the BMG Record Club (whose sales ARE NOT covered by Soundscan) and we don't know its sales at Columbia House (another mail music seller) and because RIAA certifies shipments i'm sure that with the CDs already in shops, "The Hits 1" must be very very close or already above 2 million copies shipped (we are sure about 1.9m real sales)

I'm curious talk2bill2, why do you "hate" Soundscan? wink
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