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Thread started 01/08/06 3:55am

luv2lick

Prince & the Michael's Bad' Video

...(possible) major reasons why Prince declined.

1) height, Michael would have towered over him. he doesn't like that.
2) Michael has some smooth moves, how would they compliment each other, spins?
3) Prince is a bit jealous, I read that in '88 he broadcast on TV in Europe 2 out-do Michael who was also touring at the time.
4) ....who would have come out as the baddest in the end of the video?
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Reply #1 posted 01/08/06 4:00am

Marrk

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neutral
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Reply #2 posted 01/08/06 4:26am

Krystal666

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5) It would have looked completly ridiculous and Prince is smart enough to realise that. biggrin
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Reply #3 posted 01/08/06 5:21am

NouveauDance

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Prince's ego is likely the main reason for Prince turning down the song.

When he works with other artists, it's usually on his terms, this would have been a song written and produced without his input.

Plus, can you imagine the video - it would've been like two drag queens, all eye-twitching powder-puff pouts and handbags at dawn.
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Reply #4 posted 01/08/06 6:11am

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NouveauDance said:

Prince's ego is likely the main reason for Prince turning down the song.

When he works with other artists, it's usually on his terms, this would have been a song written and produced without his input.

Plus, can you imagine the video - it would've been like two drag queens, all eye-twitching powder-puff pouts and handbags at dawn.


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Reply #5 posted 01/08/06 6:27am

3121

maybe he thought the song was a crock.
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Reply #6 posted 01/08/06 7:42am

GoldenGlove

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3121 said:

maybe he thought the song was a crock.


no no no!
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Reply #7 posted 01/08/06 7:51am

ChargingBULL

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I would love to see that ultimate showdown.


rolleyes x bovinity
Everything is bullshit
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Reply #8 posted 01/08/06 9:09am

wonder505

Actually, I believe in the Chris Rock interview, he mentioned when he read the lyrics "Your Butt is Mine" and realized that Michael would be singing that to him, Prince said HELL NO.
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Reply #9 posted 01/08/06 9:28am

tamaranow

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Paaaaaleeeeesssseeee..... rolleyes
typing how about John Cougar Mellencamp being one of Madonna's dancers?
(no disrespect to JCM...i luv him)
i love you for who you are, not the one u feel u need to be.
My star shines bright ....even in the darkest night...star
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Reply #10 posted 01/08/06 11:08am

tonyat

Marrk said:

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MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...BUT HERE'S A BETTER ONE
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I'M STILL TRYNA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S TO BE JEALOUS OF??

I LIKE MICHAEL BUT...COME ON NOW...PRINCE IS ONE OF A KIND

HE DON'T NEED TO BE JEALOUS OF ANYONE wink
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Reply #11 posted 01/08/06 11:15am

luv2lick

tonyat said:

Marrk said:

neutral


MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...BUT HERE'S A BETTER ONE
confused
I'M STILL TRYNA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S TO BE JEALOUS OF??

I LIKE MICHAEL BUT...COME ON NOW...PRINCE IS ONE OF A KIND

HE DON'T NEED TO BE JEALOUS OF ANYONE wink


Jealous wise...Michael was tops. For a long time, he ruled pop music. People identified with him in ways they couldn't w/ Prince. Even though he's a freak, he's music constantly touched people in a mass way.

Now compare that to TRC, the Symbol album.
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Reply #12 posted 01/08/06 11:29am

tonyat

luv2lick said:

tonyat said:



MY THOUGHTS EXACTLY...BUT HERE'S A BETTER ONE
confused
I'M STILL TRYNA FIGURE OUT WHAT'S TO BE JEALOUS OF??

I LIKE MICHAEL BUT...COME ON NOW...PRINCE IS ONE OF A KIND

HE DON'T NEED TO BE JEALOUS OF ANYONE wink


Jealous wise...Michael was tops. For a long time, he ruled pop music. People identified with him in ways they couldn't w/ Prince. Even though he's a freak, he's music constantly touched people in a mass way.

Now compare that to TRC, the Symbol album.


WELL THAS ONLY CAUSE A LOT OF KIDS LIKED HIM...AND WHAT WAYS DID THEY IDENTIFIED WIT MICHAEL??
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Reply #13 posted 01/08/06 11:33am

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ChargingBULL said:

I would love to see that ultimate showdown.




evillol nod

Or.....




The remake is screaming out to star Prince and Michael.
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Reply #14 posted 01/08/06 5:29pm

murph

Mike has put out some great, iconic music in his career...But "Bad' was simply the silliest, most ridiculous track he ever recorded...And the video was even worst..I would guess that this was the main reason Prince declined to collaborate with MJ at the time...
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Reply #15 posted 01/08/06 5:31pm

murph

Not hating....But...
[Edited 1/8/06 17:33pm]
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Reply #16 posted 01/08/06 5:32pm

murph

Zippers man...the zippers....
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Reply #17 posted 01/08/06 5:32pm

Marrk

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NouveauDance said:

ChargingBULL said:

I would love to see that ultimate showdown.




evillol nod

Or.....




The remake is screaming out to star Prince and Michael.



clapping falloff worship
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Reply #18 posted 01/08/06 5:54pm

littlemissG

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NouveauDance said:

ChargingBULL said:

I would love to see that ultimate showdown.




evillol nod

Or.....




The remake is screaming out to star Prince and Michael.


ND YOU CRAZY! biggrin
No More Haters on the Internet.
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Reply #19 posted 01/09/06 4:46am

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NouveauDance said:

Prince's ego is likely the main reason for Prince turning down the song.

When he works with other artists, it's usually on his terms, this would have been a song written and produced without his input.

Plus, can you imagine the video - it would've been like two drag queens, all eye-twitching powder-puff pouts and handbags at dawn.

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He turned down the song because it sucks ass. Ego had nothing to do with it. How about common sense.
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Reply #20 posted 01/09/06 4:48am

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GoldenGlove said:

3121 said:

maybe he thought the song was a crock.


no no no!

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You can't possibly think bad is a good song. (LOL)
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Reply #21 posted 01/09/06 6:06am

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laurarichardson said:

NouveauDance said:

Prince's ego is likely the main reason for Prince turning down the song.

When he works with other artists, it's usually on his terms, this would have been a song written and produced without his input.

Plus, can you imagine the video - it would've been like two drag queens, all eye-twitching powder-puff pouts and handbags at dawn.

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He turned down the song because it sucks ass. Ego had nothing to do with it. How about common sense.


Agreed, it's a terribly weak song, but my point stands.
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Reply #22 posted 01/10/06 10:27am

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NouveauDance said:

laurarichardson said:


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He turned down the song because it sucks ass. Ego had nothing to do with it. How about common sense.


Agreed, it's a terribly weak song, but my point stands.

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It stands but your point is wrong. It is obvious from P's comments to Chris Rock he was not feeling this song or video.
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Reply #23 posted 01/10/06 10:43am

Universaluv

laurarichardson said:

NouveauDance said:



Agreed, it's a terribly weak song, but my point stands.

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It stands but your point is wrong. It is obvious from P's comments to Chris Rock he was not feeling this song or video.


Well Prince has usually been fairly diplomatic when talking about MJ (Bad album cover rumor aside), so I wouldn't expect him to come out and explicitly say the song sucked even if that's what he thought.

And

He never really did seem to like singing other folks tunes back then.

So imho, both of you have good points.

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Reply #24 posted 01/10/06 10:54am

OdysseyMiles

Universaluv said:

laurarichardson said:


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It stands but your point is wrong. It is obvious from P's comments to Chris Rock he was not feeling this song or video.


Well Prince has usually been fairly diplomatic when talking about MJ (Bad album cover rumor aside), so I wouldn't expect him to come out and explicitly say the song sucked even if that's what he thought.

And

He never really did seem to like singing other folks tunes back then.

So imho, both of you have good points.


I'm gonna add to this and say that P probably wasn't feeling the song. I know I wasn't. lol
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Reply #25 posted 01/10/06 11:02am

mjfanatic

I've been a major MJ fan nearly all my life and i was quite surprised when I actually read that "Bad" was meant to be a duet with Prince.
It wud have been real cool.
But I don't think Prince has ever hated Mike out of jealousy or ego.
He even said he'd like to do a duet with MJ as long as it was "mono on mono" back on the radio in 2004...
Only the $$$ can make me happy...Unless you think otherwise baby!
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Reply #26 posted 01/10/06 11:16am

luv2lick

mjfanatic said:

I've been a major MJ fan nearly all my life and i was quite surprised when I actually read that "Bad" was meant to be a duet with Prince.
It wud have been real cool.
But I don't think Prince has ever hated Mike out of jealousy or ego.
He even said he'd like to do a duet with MJ as long as it was "mono on mono" back on the radio in 2004...


2 b honest, it's also hard 4 me 2 picture Prince singing w/ other established artists, leave alone MJ. But that's not positive. This is something he needs 2 work on...not always having 2 do things always on his own terms.

i also feel that Prince's music has been of mediocre standard 4 so many years because of his refusal 2 allow REAL input from others. It doesn't matter how great of a musician u r, after musically isolating urself from others, u will get caught in a pattern, which seems 2 b Prince's case...ya'll can name that pattern.

another thing, i don't really buy the "Prince allows us artistic freedom" from NPG members or others. prince is a control freak who appears 2 b running out of new inspiration.
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Reply #27 posted 01/10/06 12:08pm

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luv2lick said:

mjfanatic said:

I've been a major MJ fan nearly all my life and i was quite surprised when I actually read that "Bad" was meant to be a duet with Prince.
It wud have been real cool.
But I don't think Prince has ever hated Mike out of jealousy or ego.
He even said he'd like to do a duet with MJ as long as it was "mono on mono" back on the radio in 2004...


2 b honest, it's also hard 4 me 2 picture Prince singing w/ other established artists, leave alone MJ. But that's not positive. This is something he needs 2 work on...not always having 2 do things always on his own terms.

i also feel that Prince's music has been of mediocre standard 4 so many years because of his refusal 2 allow REAL input from others. It doesn't matter how great of a musician u r, after musically isolating urself from others, u will get caught in a pattern, which seems 2 b Prince's case...ya'll can name that pattern.

another thing, i don't really buy the "Prince allows us artistic freedom" from NPG members or others. prince is a control freak who appears 2 b running out of new inspiration.

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Who would you have had him work with?
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Reply #28 posted 01/10/06 2:50pm

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mjfanatic said:


He even said he'd like to do a duet with MJ as long as it was "mono on mono" back on the radio in 2004...


where and when did he say this? hmmm
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Reply #29 posted 01/10/06 3:05pm

BlackBuddy

Bullshit dude. Bullshit
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