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I mean LAURARICHARDSON..... PEACE..... **...KAY IN DC....** | |
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We all have our views, and our opinions, and our tastes. I'm cool with that.
But I'm surprised at the "always considered Adore to be plasticky" comment... and the "fake" comment. I always thought the song was so carefully made... and so carefully put together with a sincere youthfulness. When you're young and in love, you tend to joke and play with your partner. That's what he does in this song with the "Well, maybe not the ride" comment, and the "I'm a man of exquisite taste" comment. To me, he's crazy about her, but he's still tryin' to be cool about it. As a man, you have that "bravado" in you sometimes. Even the way he ties it all together with the heavenly operatic falsetto and the choir choruses, strike of a love that's so amazing... that you're incredibly careful not to damage it. The part "I ain't fuckin' just for kicks"... I would think that that's something you say to your lady, and can smile about it... because it's as though he still "tries" to be macho, but the level of "adore" that he feels for her makes it sort of impossible. It's kind of like saying "I love her, but I don't LOVE her, love her." ... when you know you're really crazy about her. It's an unbelievable level of love that... maybe you're not ready for... or ready to admit... but FLOORS you to the point where you can't deny it... hence the sincere choir finale. I love this song. Period. I could write a 50-page essay breaking down its' brilliance. Adore... to me... is a pure work of art. You don't have to agree with me, and that's what makes this forum so great! We see different views... beliefs... interpretations. But Adore does it. And no... this is not a song that I can fuck to. This is a song that I sit back, look at my lady, hold her hand, squeeze it a few times, give her a peck on the cheek, stare into her eyes once or twice... and appreciate all that I've found in her. Only a genious could write this song and pull it off the way Prince did. Maybe that's why no one has covered it since its release in 1987. No one can pull off what Prince did with this song. And Keith Sweat... Mr. Make it Last Forever... Mr. I Wanna Go Outside in the Rain... those were some cool songs, but we all know he can't hold Prince's miniscule jock! You can write the story of music without Keith Sweat. You can't write it without Prince. The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! |
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sosgemini said: laurarichardson said: ----- Please have the maturity not take this a discussion about a song so seriously. I did read your previous post. I just don't agree. Nothing is wrong with the produciton of the song and I don't know if P was being sincere but, you got to admit it is better lyrically then most of his ballads in that he professes some love for the woman and not just screwing a running off. If seduction ballads grate on you that badly you need to lighten up. We are need a little seduction in our lives. ( Take a deep breath and chill) there goes laurarichardson again...  ----- I know I am too cool for school (LOL) | |
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It sounds to me like the ones here that don't like "Adore" may have heard Carmen Elektra's version entitled "All That" instead?
THAT one was "plasticky" and "drippy" "Adore" is a finely crafted and wonderfully executed piece of croon. Greatest SONG of all time? I'll have to have a brew and think about it...  "Whatever skin we're in
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Nasalhair said: laurarichardson said: ----- Please have the maturity not take this a discussion about a song so seriously. I did read your previous post. I just don't agree. Nothing is wrong with the produciton of the song and I don't know if P was being sincere but, you got to admit it is better lyrically then most of his ballads in that he professes some love for the woman and not just screwing a running off. If seduction ballads grate on you that badly you need to lighten up. We are need a little seduction in our lives. ( Take a deep breath and chill) Laurarichardson... 1. "Having the maturity not to take a discussion about a song so seriously..." My comments were not specifically directed at you - I replied to your message simply because it was a reply to mine, but my comments were directed to the board in general. Why am I taking this so seriously? Read the other comments on here and see how seriously others take this. I am sick to the back teeth of somebody stating their opinion and dozens of other members slapping them down because they don't feel the same way. I am not taking "Adore" seriously, more the attitude of several members on here. It seems as though freedom of speech is not allowed here, and any comments along the lines of "actually Prince has done some rubbish songs" just aren't allowed, and rather than be fans some people here tend to be sycophants who take the opinion that every note and every song Prince has recorded is perfect, and those who disagree are just plain wrong. Clearly you like "Adore", and that is great - I'm happy that you have a song that you like and that means something to you. I have Prince songs I truly love, but many of my favourites are not other peoples' favourites, but that's fine. We all like different things, and that is because we are human. 2. "Nothing wrong with the production of the song" Again, I tend to agree, but if you read my original comments I say that "Adore" sounds overproduced in the context of the rest of the album. "SOTT" has received countless reviews and comments saying how raw it sounds, that songs like "Dorothy Parker", "Starfish and Coffee" and "It" for three sound very much like demos. "Adore", however, is ultra-smooth, and against the rough edges of the other songs it seems out of place, and this is what jars with me the most. In addition, the glossy, over-slick backing makes the lyrics sound syrupy to me and this only makes it worse. Personally, and this is my opinion, I would have preferred "Adore" if it had been either a solo piano backing, or a solo acoustic guitar, which would have made it sound much more raw and intimate, and also truer to the spirit of the rest of the album. Again, my opinion only. 3. "You got to admit it is better than a lot of his other ballads" Lyrically, yes, I agree - better to be saying "I love you" than "bend over, dear - this will blast the wax out of your ears" or words to that effect. 4. "If seduction ballads grate on you that badly you need to lighten up. We are need a little seduction in our lives." Seduction and love don't grate with me, and yes we all need a little seduction in our lives, but I've never liked songs on the subject. Can't you see that we can't all like the same things, the same songs, the same types of music? Do we have to all like the same things? No! 5. "( Take a deep breath and chill)" The same goes to you. Now let this lie. I don't like "Adore" but you do. End of! ----- Your on a open message board. You have freedom of speech at this board but we all got to let you have it on Adore. Sorry that is just the way it goes. | |
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Great song! The funny thing is that people are getting on the original poster for calling Adore the greatest song of all time, then they proceed to correct them by telling them what they think is the greatest song of all time. It's pointless because there is not greatest song of all time because that is subjective.
Now to Adore; exquisite lyrics, flawless musicianship Prince's organ work and bass work are outstanding and work well with Leeds and Bliss, and great vocals. It's a classic track in the history of music and a top tier track in Prince's catalog. I have yet to hear anyone duplicate a ballad that grand and sincere with that amount of power. This is a major fav among casual fans. | |
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nayroo2002 said: It sounds to me like the ones here that don't like "Adore" may have heard Carmen Elektra's version entitled "All That" instead?
THAT one was "plasticky" and "drippy" "Adore" is a finely crafted and wonderfully executed piece of croon. Greatest SONG of all time? I'll have to have a brew and think about it... Yeah... Carmen Electra's "All That" was PLASTICKY. Indeed. You look up PLASTICKY in the dictionary, and right next to Carmen's breasts, you'll see Carmen's "All That". I almost forgot about that piece of dredge. PEOPLE... if you want to hear "plasticky", find that song! GOD it was a disgrace... and talk about cheesy plasticky lyrics... that song TOOK THE CAKE! MY GOD! lol... ... and to all the Adore supporters... ya'll know music! 
(No offense to the haters!) The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! |
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laurarichardson said: Nasalhair said: Laurarichardson... 1. "Having the maturity not to take a discussion about a song so seriously..." My comments were not specifically directed at you - I replied to your message simply because it was a reply to mine, but my comments were directed to the board in general. Why am I taking this so seriously? Read the other comments on here and see how seriously others take this. I am sick to the back teeth of somebody stating their opinion and dozens of other members slapping them down because they don't feel the same way. I am not taking "Adore" seriously, more the attitude of several members on here. It seems as though freedom of speech is not allowed here, and any comments along the lines of "actually Prince has done some rubbish songs" just aren't allowed, and rather than be fans some people here tend to be sycophants who take the opinion that every note and every song Prince has recorded is perfect, and those who disagree are just plain wrong. Clearly you like "Adore", and that is great - I'm happy that you have a song that you like and that means something to you. I have Prince songs I truly love, but many of my favourites are not other peoples' favourites, but that's fine. We all like different things, and that is because we are human. 2. "Nothing wrong with the production of the song" Again, I tend to agree, but if you read my original comments I say that "Adore" sounds overproduced in the context of the rest of the album. "SOTT" has received countless reviews and comments saying how raw it sounds, that songs like "Dorothy Parker", "Starfish and Coffee" and "It" for three sound very much like demos. "Adore", however, is ultra-smooth, and against the rough edges of the other songs it seems out of place, and this is what jars with me the most. In addition, the glossy, over-slick backing makes the lyrics sound syrupy to me and this only makes it worse. Personally, and this is my opinion, I would have preferred "Adore" if it had been either a solo piano backing, or a solo acoustic guitar, which would have made it sound much more raw and intimate, and also truer to the spirit of the rest of the album. Again, my opinion only. 3. "You got to admit it is better than a lot of his other ballads" Lyrically, yes, I agree - better to be saying "I love you" than "bend over, dear - this will blast the wax out of your ears" or words to that effect. 4. "If seduction ballads grate on you that badly you need to lighten up. We are need a little seduction in our lives." Seduction and love don't grate with me, and yes we all need a little seduction in our lives, but I've never liked songs on the subject. Can't you see that we can't all like the same things, the same songs, the same types of music? Do we have to all like the same things? No! 5. "( Take a deep breath and chill)" The same goes to you. Now let this lie. I don't like "Adore" but you do. End of! ----- Your on a open message board. You have freedom of speech at this board but we all got to let you have it on Adore. Sorry that is just the way it goes. I repeat, Now let this lie. I don't like "Adore" but you do. End of! Now stop being immature with comments like "we all got to let you have it on Adore" and grow up. THE END. |
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MantuaPharoah said: Yeah... Carmen Electra's "All That" was PLASTICKY. Indeed. You look up PLASTICKY in the dictionary, and right next to Carmen's breasts, you'll see Carmen's "All That". I almost forgot about that piece of dredge. PEOPLE... if you want to hear "plasticky", find that song! GOD it was a disgrace... and talk about cheesy plasticky lyrics... that song TOOK THE CAKE! MY GOD! lol... ... and to all the Adore supporters... ya'll know music!
(No offense to the haters!) Where did anyone say they hated Adore? I personally said I don't think it's the greatest. Yes, most of the time I skip it or turn off SOTT (since it's the last track) but I don't HATE it; and at the risk of speaking for my fellow orgers that are less than enthusiastic towards Adore, I doubt they all hate it too. Dislike is not equal to hate. (And I reserved my hatred of Prince songs for Peach. Now that song I really I HATE !)
I'm not taking the debate too seriously or offended, just pointing out that there is a difference b/t not thinking something is "the greatest" and hating something.  The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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jone70 said: MantuaPharoah said: Yeah... Carmen Electra's "All That" was PLASTICKY. Indeed. You look up PLASTICKY in the dictionary, and right next to Carmen's breasts, you'll see Carmen's "All That". I almost forgot about that piece of dredge. PEOPLE... if you want to hear "plasticky", find that song! GOD it was a disgrace... and talk about cheesy plasticky lyrics... that song TOOK THE CAKE! MY GOD! lol... ... and to all the Adore supporters... ya'll know music!
(No offense to the haters!) Where did anyone say they hated Adore? I personally said I don't think it's the greatest. Yes, most of the time I skip it or turn off SOTT (since it's the last track) but I don't HATE it; and at the risk of speaking for my fellow orgers that are less than enthusiastic towards Adore, I doubt they all hate it too. Dislike is not equal to hate. (And I reserved my hatred of Prince songs for Peach. Now that song I really I HATE !)
I'm not taking the debate too seriously or offended, just pointing out that there is a difference b/t not thinking something is "the greatest" and hating something. "Hater" is just an expression! lol... I'm not mad at anyone. I LOVE YOU ALL!! lol... Now PEACH... there's a song that I hate! Shit, call me a hater on that one too! But I think my number one PRINCE HATE tune is Everday is a Winding Road... his cover of the Sheryl Crow non-classic. HATE IT! I don't even call that song by it's name. I call it... "Press the > button, QUICK!" The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! |
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HEY!
"Peach" is a cool ditty! For the -fun- factor, anyways 
Check "Adore" on the 'Girl 6' soundtrack for a better quality release (I know that doesn't change the lyrical content, but the delivery of the song is a bit clearer) "Whatever skin we're in
we all need 2 b friends" |
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DorothyParkerWasCool said: Great song! The funny thing is that people are getting on the original poster for calling Adore the greatest song of all time, then they proceed to correct them by telling them what they think is the greatest song of all time. It's pointless because there is not greatest song of all time because that is subjective.
Now to Adore; exquisite lyrics, flawless musicianship Prince's organ work and bass work are outstanding and work well with Leeds and Bliss, and great vocals. It's a classic track in the history of music and a top tier track in Prince's catalog. I have yet to hear anyone duplicate a ballad that grand and sincere with that amount of power. This is a major fav among casual fans. You are so right! The power of Adore lies in its grandeur and ambition. Many musicians have released great three minutes and a half ballads with less ambitious arrangements. It takes a great artist to make this giant musical house of cards stand for so many captivating minutes. One wrong move and the whole thing might collapse, but somehow it does not. Instead it stays majestic till the very last note. My feeling is that any fan that has yet to at least appreciate this song has not listened to it long enough. | |
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MantuaPharoah said: We all have our views, and our opinions, and our tastes. I'm cool with that.
But I'm surprised at the "always considered Adore to be plasticky" comment... and the "fake" comment. I always thought the song was so carefully made... and so carefully put together with a sincere youthfulness. When you're young and in love, you tend to joke and play with your partner. That's what he does in this song with the "Well, maybe not the ride" comment, and the "I'm a man of exquisite taste" comment. To me, he's crazy about her, but he's still tryin' to be cool about it. As a man, you have that "bravado" in you sometimes. Even the way he ties it all together with the heavenly operatic falsetto and the choir choruses, strike of a love that's so amazing... that you're incredibly careful not to damage it. The part "I ain't fuckin' just for kicks"... I would think that that's something you say to your lady, and can smile about it... because it's as though he still "tries" to be macho, but the level of "adore" that he feels for her makes it sort of impossible. It's kind of like saying "I love her, but I don't LOVE her, love her." ... when you know you're really crazy about her. It's an unbelievable level of love that... maybe you're not ready for... or ready to admit... but FLOORS you to the point where you can't deny it... hence the sincere choir finale. I love this song. Period. I could write a 50-page essay breaking down its' brilliance. Adore... to me... is a pure work of art. You don't have to agree with me, and that's what makes this forum so great! We see different views... beliefs... interpretations. But Adore does it. And no... this is not a song that I can fuck to. This is a song that I sit back, look at my lady, hold her hand, squeeze it a few times, give her a peck on the cheek, stare into her eyes once or twice... and appreciate all that I've found in her. Only a genious could write this song and pull it off the way Prince did. Maybe that's why no one has covered it since its release in 1987. No one can pull off what Prince did with this song. And Keith Sweat... Mr. Make it Last Forever... Mr. I Wanna Go Outside in the Rain... those were some cool songs, but we all know he can't hold Prince's miniscule jock! You can write the story of music without Keith Sweat. You can't write it without Prince. Exactly. The song's all about being real and down to earth while still sounding poetic and epic, which it accomplishes seamlessly. That is love. Speaking from the heart and yet not being pretentiously romantic. BTW The line is "I ain't funkin' just for kicks." The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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Aerogram said:[quote] The power of Adore lies in its grandeur and ambition. Many musicians have released great three minutes and a half ballads with less ambitious arrangements. It takes a great artist to make this giant musical house of cards stand for so many captivating minutes. One wrong move and the whole thing might collapse, but somehow it does not. Instead it stays majestic till the very last note.\[quote]
...and all that without a guitar. incredible. This thread made me single out certain parts of the song that I never heard before, particularily the bass. I always took this ballad as a whole and never really broke it down to the sum of it's parts. Very intricate and yet "real" in the sense that it was mostly organic and "from-the-hand." That takes unbelievable focus, especially if it's mostly done by one person.
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BTW The line is "I ain't funkin' just for kicks."[/color][/quote]
Are you sure? I mean, after all... the lyric sheet on the original LP says "playin'" just for kicks... and it's clearly not "playin'". I think many interpret it as "funkin'" so it didn't get "bleeped" during airplay. And also... Erotic City... "funk 'til dawn". Hmmm... we know what he means, and I'd sweare you can clearly hear him say "fuck" at least once or twice... not "funk". And "I ain't fuckin' for kicks" is more consistent with the playful tone. You never want your lady to think of you as "fucking" her... but he pulls it off in a way where she has to laugh. It's relationship comedy. Beautiful comedy. The kind of relationship that all aspire to have. A down-to-earthness. 
And where can I find a woman where I can laugh about "fuckin'" her... but still have the meaning of the "F-word" be innocent, lovely, special, beautiful... and sincere. That's communication. Seeing eye-to-eye. Love. If you're out there... hit me up!
This is a special song. The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! |
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MantuaPharoah said: BTW The line is "I ain't funkin' just for kicks."[/color]
Are you sure? I mean, after all... the lyric sheet on the original LP says "playin'" just for kicks... and it's clearly not "playin'". I think many interpret it as "funkin'" so it didn't get "bleeped" during airplay. And also... Erotic City... "funk 'til dawn". Hmmm... we know what he means, and I'd sweare you can clearly hear him say "fuck" at least once or twice... not "funk". And "I ain't fuckin' for kicks" is more consistent with the playful tone. You never want your lady to think of you as "fucking" her... but he pulls it off in a way where she has to laugh. It's relationship comedy. Beautiful comedy. The kind of relationship that all aspire to have. A down-to-earthness.
And where can I find a woman where I can laugh about "fuckin'" her... but still have the meaning of the "F-word" be innocent, lovely, special, beautiful... and sincere. That's communication. Seeing eye-to-eye. Love. If you're out there... hit me up!
This is a special song. [/quote]
But THEN AGAIN... maybe he does say "funkin'" just for kicks. He's an artist. A song writer. "Funkin'" to Prince could mean "writing music". Perhaps his meaning is "I ain't writin' this song just for fun. Baby I'm serious!" I should write that 50-page essay! The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! |
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I just downloaded Prime Mover by Zodiac Mindwarp from their album Tattooed Beat Messiah. Who here thinks Adore is better? | |
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It's definitely "Funkin' just for kicks." You can hear him pronounce the "n" really clearly.
Swearing in Adore actually would've broken the gentle mood. It's too harsh a word, which is probably why he used "funkin'" instead. [Edited 1/17/06 15:07pm] The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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MantuaPharoah said: BTW The line is "I ain't funkin' just for kicks."[/color]
Are you sure? I mean, after all... the lyric sheet on the original LP says "playin'" just for kicks... and it's clearly not "playin'". I think many interpret it as "funkin'" so it didn't get "bleeped" during airplay. And also... Erotic City... "funk 'til dawn". Hmmm... we know what he means, and I'd sweare you can clearly hear him say "fuck" at least once or twice... not "funk". And "I ain't fuckin' for kicks" is more consistent with the playful tone. You never want your lady to think of you as "fucking" her... but he pulls it off in a way where she has to laugh. It's relationship comedy. Beautiful comedy. The kind of relationship that all aspire to have. A down-to-earthness.
And where can I find a woman where I can laugh about "fuckin'" her... but still have the meaning of the "F-word" be innocent, lovely, special, beautiful... and sincere. That's communication. Seeing eye-to-eye. Love. If you're out there... hit me up!
This is a special song. [/quote]
Other "special" songs where Prince got away with saying FUCK on the radio: "Batdance" -Get the fuck up!- "My Name Is Prince" -I did not come, 2 fuck around!- [Edited 1/17/06 15:14pm] "Whatever skin we're in
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I believe so.. I have a lyric sheet and it reads and it sounds like. "I aint Funkin' just 4 kicks".. Listen to it.
Also in Batdance it is "Get the Funk up" too. That's just Prince for ya. Some people think I'm kinda cute
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I agree!! I think that Adore has the best lyrics ever written. If you don't think so you have never really been in luuuuuvvvvv(like soulmate love). It is the best "ballad" ever written if you want to get real specific.[img]5603 | |
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preciosa863 said: prettymansson said: IF ADORE IS THE GREATEST SONG OF ALL TIME...HOW COME IF YOU ASK 98% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT PRINCE FANS IF THEY KNOW THE SONG ,THEY WILL SAY NO !!!!BUT IF YOU ASK 100% OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PRINCE FANS IF THEY KNOW JOHN LENNONS IMAGINE THEY WILL SAY YES ?????
really, well I don't...so that drops your 100%. HOW DO YOU EAT AND SLEEP WHILE LIVING UNDER A ROCK ???? [Edited 1/17/06 17:13pm] | |
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prettymansson said: preciosa863 said: really, well I don't...so that drops your 100%. HOW DO YOU EAT AND SLEEP WHILE LIVING UNDER A ROCK ???? [Edited 1/17/06 17:13pm] No offense Prettymansson, but based on your logic, New Kids on the Block is the Greatest Band in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD. The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! |
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MantuaPharoah said: prettymansson said: HOW DO YOU EAT AND SLEEP WHILE LIVING UNDER A ROCK ???? [Edited 1/17/06 17:13pm] No offense Prettymansson, but based on your logic, New Kids on the Block is the Greatest Band in the HISTORY OF THE WORLD. no offense taken...I am not saying john lennons song is the GREATEST SONG OF ALL TIME...Im saying everyone has to vote for a statement like that to be true...  | |
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kittylarue2 said: I agree!! I think that Adore has the best lyrics ever written. If you don't think so you have never really been in luuuuuvvvvv(like soulmate love). It is the best "ballad" ever written if you want to get real specific.[img]5603
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Nasalhair said: laurarichardson said: ----- Your on a open message board. You have freedom of speech at this board but we all got to let you have it on Adore. Sorry that is just the way it goes. I repeat, Now let this lie. I don't like "Adore" but you do. End of! Now stop being immature with comments like "we all got to let you have it on Adore" and grow up. THE END. ----- It is the end because someone named "NasalHair" has proclaimed it so. (LOL) You need to find a sense of humor. | |
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Nasalhair said: laurarichardson said: ----- Your on a open message board. You have freedom of speech at this board but we all got to let you have it on Adore. Sorry that is just the way it goes. I repeat, Now let this lie. I don't like "Adore" but you do. End of! Now stop being immature with comments like "we all got to let you have it on Adore" and grow up. THE END. there are all ages on these boards so give everyone some slack Geesh, IQ's don't always equate with the same number of years someone has been alive | |
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One more thing I want to add...
When Prince says "When we be makin' love..." If you listen to the way he sings that line... it's got to be the "prettiest" I've ever heard Prince sing a single line. Listen to it. With the singing of that line, he seems to be trying to get the point across that the love that he and she make is the single most beautiful thing he's ever experienced! Maybe I'm trying to convince those people out there who think it's "plasticky" and/or fake... but to me... throughout the whole song... he seems to be as sincere as he can be... while maintaining his "cool"... until just losing it at the end and being caught up in the rapture of his adore. "For all time I am with you... you're with me. You're my baby." That's what's UP! The public is squeezin' you kiddo. You'd better kick ass on your next album or else! |
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