txladykat said:

Well, heaven is suppose to be on earth. Being one of the chosen 144K is about serving on the right hand of God; his helpers for instance. Although I can understand that is few, I guess this is a position they can only HOPE for?

If I remember correctly, there are over 6 million JW's - What happens to the rest of them, do they burn down here with the rest of us.

If so, won't it be fun to point and laugh at them!!!

NouveauDance said:

JW's don't believe in burning in hell. Hell is mankind's common grave- the dead don't feel or know anything- so they are not tormented.They believe what the Bible says at Psalm 37:9,10- that those who are righteous will posess the earth- once all wickedness is destroyed the earth will be returned to a paradise condition- and humans will be brought back to perfection; ie: no sickness, etc. Even those asleep in death will be ressurected to enjoy life in paradise as well- if they have led a life that pleases God- and only God knows this.

The 144,000 who will be serving in heaven at Jesus' Right hand are chosen by God from the earth and they will rule in his heavenly kingdom with the knowleadge of how it was to be human. They don't believe that you go to heaven to lounge around and do nothing. As angels in heaven- you are a spirit body thus giving up all earthly desires.

Not everyone wants to give up their desires of the flesh - humans were created with the desire to be together and procreate.

NouveauDance said:

Since a burning hellfire doesn't exist, and Jah has promised to keep the earth standing to time indefinite, we can take to heart what is said at Proverbs 2:21: "For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it."

OKAY.....I've been wanting to ask this question forever but was afraid of y'all makin' a d*ck outta' me, but WHO IS LARRY GRAHAM? I know who Billy Graham is, but not Larry.

liz5353 said:

I dunno' but I checked out watchtower.org, and what I'm getting out of it is that they believe Jesus was created by God (his son) just like Christians do, but they don't think he is eqaul to God, and they don't think he should be worshiped.

liz5353 said:

Hence the reason he changed the lyrics of The Cross into The Christ. It became a song of testimony to Jesus, and not a song of worship.

txladykat said:

And it should get to you, because it is taken out of context. That number doesn't account for the souls mentioned in Rev. 6:9, or the souls in Rev. 20:4 that were witnessed to be in heaven.

No, if you read the Bible, it teaches your soul will live on in heaven, if you accept Jesus as your savior.

luv4all7 said:

musician...bass player, formerly of Sly & The Family Stone and Graham Central Station. Several hits in the early 80's, couple albums (not hits) in the 90's. Toured with Prince in 2000.

txladykat said:

Thanks, what does he have to do w/JW's?

luv4all7 said:

He IS a JW. During the tour with Prince, Prince became very close with Larry Graham, shortly thereafter, Prince became a JW.

TheBatman said:

From what I understand, these 144K "slots" can already be filled.

TheCatWoman said:

That is indeed a possibility, which is why JWs don't go around promising heaven to people who are obedient to God. The Earth is here forever, and Jehovah has always had a purpose for it.

nurse said:

Prince's Religion is always been and will always be the love from within prince. That love has a voice in him. He is trying to find understanding in the phyical reality to accept it. He's looking in all the wrong places, but it is his journy to journal.

this shit'll be moved, soon enough...

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

OdysseyMiles said:

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

Hi, sugar...

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

what's the shit that will be moved and where will it be moved to?

I don't believe any of us have a right to question anyone elses religious beliefs, as long as those beliefs do not violate the laws of civilization..such as human sacrifice, stealing, etc.

i dont believe anyone is questioning anyone else's belief so to speak, some of has just raised questions as to the beliefs of JW's, and that we may not agree with some of those beliefs. But that is not to be construed as "questioning someone else's belief", that is merely are right as a citizen to have an opinion or disagree with a specific religion.

Are we still talking about this?

txladykat said:

blah blah, you know how it is. You got the defenders, the posters, the accusers, the fantasizers, the wannabe's, the questioners, the lurkers, the groupies, the fansite groupies.....and all calling each other pot/kettle, only thing is they don't know what they are ; the kettle or the pot. But THEY ARE one or the other

Me? I'm all

AQUABOOGIE said:

As far as I´m well informed it was George Benson, also a JW, who convinced Prince 4 this religion. George Benson was a client of Paysley Park. It was b4 Larry Graham. So thats what I know about it.

thEfRIeNdChiP said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

nah....keep this ova here.....we have enough of this over in P&R