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Thread started 12/11/05 7:52pm

jackuoff81

Chances of Prince albums ever getting remastered?

Just wondering.

Some of those 80s ones could definitely use it. That would make my life if they came out with great sound...pounding bass, etc.
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Reply #1 posted 12/11/05 8:21pm

FrancerulzV99

jackuoff81 said:

Just wondering.

Some of those 80s ones could definitely use it. That would make my life if they came out with great sound...pounding bass, etc.


Well actually the Hits 1 album remastered songs mostly from the 80's, so your wish is partially granted...
http://shopping.yahoo.com...age=tracks
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Reply #2 posted 12/11/05 9:58pm

suomynona

considering that prince has such a wonderful working relationship with wbr, it should be anyday now smile
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Reply #3 posted 12/12/05 12:33am

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suomynona said:

considering that prince has such a wonderful working relationship with wbr, it should be anyday now smile


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Reply #4 posted 12/12/05 12:37am

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FrancerulzV99 said:

jackuoff81 said:

Just wondering.

Some of those 80s ones could definitely use it. That would make my life if they came out with great sound...pounding bass, etc.


Well actually the Hits 1 album remastered songs mostly from the 80's, so your wish is partially granted...
http://shopping.yahoo.com...age=tracks


My guess would be that "Remastered" in this case would mean "Re-released", with no actual sound quality improvement.
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Reply #5 posted 12/12/05 1:04am

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squirrelgrease said:

FrancerulzV99 said:



Well actually the Hits 1 album remastered songs mostly from the 80's, so your wish is partially granted...
http://shopping.yahoo.com...age=tracks


My guess would be that "Remastered" in this case would mean "Re-released", with no actual sound quality improvement.


nod

they don't sound like they're remastered at all.
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #6 posted 12/12/05 3:57am

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squirrelgrease said:

FrancerulzV99 said:



Well actually the Hits 1 album remastered songs mostly from the 80's, so your wish is partially granted...
http://shopping.yahoo.com...age=tracks


My guess would be that "Remastered" in this case would mean "Re-released", with no actual sound quality improvement.


Yes...it was just a compilation album, no remastering was done.
"I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015
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Reply #7 posted 12/12/05 6:27am

softandwet

i know this topic is abit played out for alot of people so i'll reply for you as most people now avoid threads like these.

from what i know prince lowered his demands to full control of masters to a better portion of them, thus making negotiations more likely. i think this had something/alot to do with the influence of his lawyer/advisor londell williams. supposedly they were in talks, and the whole saga with prince asking fans for boots to be sent back to him was supposedly in relation to this, proving that WB released his music illegally (presumably without his consent or something - supposedly scandalous sex suite is one of these but its still sold in shops now) and giving him leverage against them. but nothing was heard of it though i think one of the mods mystically mentioned prince in a meeting using it (in LA) but that was the end of that.

either way, since then nothings been heard of it, though there is a company in america that gets permission to remaster material from bands and so on and releases them remastered on their own label, i think its gold discs or something (the name has something to do with gold from what i rememeber). anyway, fans often request stuff on their website and supposedly when someone requested prince the guy who runs it posted saying they couldn't do prince as the records were already down to be done by WB - leading, i suppose, to speculation that some sort of deal had been done. but again, nothing official has been heard and thats the last rumour i heard about it, and that must be over a year ago now.

my guess would be, that what with the industry the way it is and the currency princes back catalogue has (does anyone have a better unmastered one at the moment - especially with the 80s being back in vogue?) he and WB could easily come to a deal, so i expect its when prince fancies it really. i can't imagine WB being a stick in the mud over it unless prince wants everything back permanently and londell has already said this isn't the case anymore.

we'll see, but i wouldn't hold your breath!
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Reply #8 posted 12/12/05 6:37am

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I don't see what the big deal is...

Every "remastered" CD I have ever heard only had the sound level increased.

I did that to some songs in Cool Edit Pro & they sound just like "remastered" tracks.

I think it's a great big ripoff. Let's boost the sound level of this old ass CD & re-release it so stupid, gullible, fans will buy it up. Be sure to add another picture or 2 & song lyrics to make it seem like a great deal.

Until someone shows me a real difference, that is.
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Reply #9 posted 12/12/05 6:44am

TheRealFiness

eeez nawwwwwt gonnna happppiiiiinggggg
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Reply #10 posted 12/12/05 6:45am

AsianBomb777

TheRealFiness said:

eeez nawwwwwt gonnna happppiiiiinggggg



dude, are you drunk again? eek
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Reply #11 posted 12/12/05 6:46am

TheRealFiness

AsianBomb777 said:

TheRealFiness said:

eeez nawwwwwt gonnna happppiiiiinggggg



dude, are you drunk again? eek



again?
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Reply #12 posted 12/12/05 7:03am

Handclapsfinga
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suomynona said:

considering that prince has such a wonderful working relationship with wbr, it should be anyday now smile

owie, the sarcasm...falloff
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Reply #13 posted 12/12/05 7:39am

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TheMaster said:

I don't see what the big deal is...

Every "remastered" CD I have ever heard only had the sound level increased.

I did that to some songs in Cool Edit Pro & they sound just like "remastered" tracks.

I think it's a great big ripoff. Let's boost the sound level of this old ass CD & re-release it so stupid, gullible, fans will buy it up. Be sure to add another picture or 2 & song lyrics to make it seem like a great deal.

Until someone shows me a real difference, that is.


Thanks, Master, for saying this! This whole "remastered" thing is a big rip off of customers imo. I mean, we're not talking about historical recordings from the Bayreuth festival from the 1920s made with some museum-like equipment here, it is stuff from the 80s!

I was really pissed when I wanted to buy some Sting albums a few years ago and I found out that you could only buy "remastered" or "enhanced" versions of them nowadays. Hell, they even had remastered "Mercury falling" from 1996!!! And they wanted tons of money for those CDs! I didn't buy one.

As long as they wouldn't add one CD to each 80s Prince album with outtakes from the specific era in good quality, I would do the same as I did with the WB "Very best of Prince" rip off - ignore it!
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Reply #14 posted 12/12/05 7:56am

Anxiety

i think once we've all made peace with the fact that his albums will never get remastered, about a year later it'll happen, right in time for us not to give a damn anymore.
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Reply #15 posted 12/12/05 8:31am

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TheMaster said:

I don't see what the big deal is...

Every "remastered" CD I have ever heard only had the sound level increased.

I did that to some songs in Cool Edit Pro & they sound just like "remastered" tracks.

I think it's a great big ripoff. Let's boost the sound level of this old ass CD & re-release it so stupid, gullible, fans will buy it up. Be sure to add another picture or 2 & song lyrics to make it seem like a great deal.

Until someone shows me a real difference, that is.


Ummm, no, they don't just "increase the sound levels". There are a whole lot of things that go into a remaster, not the least of which is equalizing out the sound mix. Prince's early CDs sound tinny, and are lacking much of the proper seperation and mix. You can tweak the knobs, but you still aren't going to get a proper mix.

I HAVE heard remasters that I wasn't impressed with (Shout: The Very Best of Tears For Fears springs to mind), but overall most are actually quite good. The Pink Floyd catalogue remasters are a perfect example of a major correction being made to the orgininal, shitty sound on the first releases (and, in the case of The Wall, they didn't boost the volume much at all. All that was corrected was the seperation and mix).

Hey, you don't want 'em, don't buy 'em, but don't assume that we are all gullible. There are plenty of audiophiles who CAN tell the difference, and want these done properly.
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Reply #16 posted 12/12/05 8:32am

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Anxiety said:

i think once we've all made peace with the fact that his albums will never get remastered, about a year later it'll happen, right in time for us not to give a damn anymore.


Well, I made peace with it about three years ago, so they should drop any day now!!! wink
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Reply #17 posted 12/12/05 9:02am

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TheMaster said:

Until someone shows me a real difference, that is.

Buy the following album http://tds.nin.com/index2.html listen to it and then compare it to the initial release and only then you will understand the true meaning of "remastered"...

Neversin.
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Reply #18 posted 12/12/05 9:09am

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EmancipationLover said:

Thanks, Master, for saying this! This whole "remastered" thing is a big rip off of customers imo. I mean, we're not talking about historical recordings from the Bayreuth festival from the 1920s made with some museum-like equipment here, it is stuff from the 80s!

Do a comparison with the "Sign "O" The Times" vinyl (something you probably don't even own or have even heard considering your post...) and the CD and be sure to use your ears...
It seems to me people like you don't even have a clue as to what kind of half-assed job they did when they released Prince's material on CD, not to mention about 99% of all CD's released in the 1980's and 1990's...

Neversin.
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Reply #19 posted 12/12/05 9:14am

machokitty

i already dont give a damn
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Reply #20 posted 12/12/05 9:23am

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Neversin said:

EmancipationLover said:

Thanks, Master, for saying this! This whole "remastered" thing is a big rip off of customers imo. I mean, we're not talking about historical recordings from the Bayreuth festival from the 1920s made with some museum-like equipment here, it is stuff from the 80s!

Do a comparison with the "Sign "O" The Times" vinyl (something you probably don't even own or have even heard considering your post...) and the CD and be sure to use your ears...
It seems to me people like you don't even have a clue as to what kind of half-assed job they did when they released Prince's material on CD, not to mention about 99% of all CD's released in the 1980's and 1990's...

Neversin.


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Reply #21 posted 12/12/05 10:52am

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EmancipationLover said:

TheMaster said:

I don't see what the big deal is...

Every "remastered" CD I have ever heard only had the sound level increased.

I did that to some songs in Cool Edit Pro & they sound just like "remastered" tracks.

I think it's a great big ripoff. Let's boost the sound level of this old ass CD & re-release it so stupid, gullible, fans will buy it up. Be sure to add another picture or 2 & song lyrics to make it seem like a great deal.

Until someone shows me a real difference, that is.


Thanks, Master, for saying this! This whole "remastered" thing is a big rip off of customers imo. I mean, we're not talking about historical recordings from the Bayreuth festival from the 1920s made with some museum-like equipment here, it is stuff from the 80s!

I was really pissed when I wanted to buy some Sting albums a few years ago and I found out that you could only buy "remastered" or "enhanced" versions of them nowadays. Hell, they even had remastered "Mercury falling" from 1996!!! And they wanted tons of money for those CDs! I didn't buy one.

As long as they wouldn't add one CD to each 80s Prince album with outtakes from the specific era in good quality, I would do the same as I did with the WB "Very best of Prince" rip off - ignore it!


Well guys, at least we know what to send 'em for Xmas now; Q tips!!!!!
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Reply #22 posted 12/12/05 6:09pm

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JediMaster said:

Neversin said:


Do a comparison with the "Sign "O" The Times" vinyl (something you probably don't even own or have even heard considering your post...) and the CD and be sure to use your ears...
It seems to me people like you don't even have a clue as to what kind of half-assed job they did when they released Prince's material on CD, not to mention about 99% of all CD's released in the 1980's and 1990's...

Neversin.


nod


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Reply #23 posted 12/12/05 6:11pm

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BlurredEye said:

EmancipationLover said:



Thanks, Master, for saying this! This whole "remastered" thing is a big rip off of customers imo. I mean, we're not talking about historical recordings from the Bayreuth festival from the 1920s made with some museum-like equipment here, it is stuff from the 80s!

I was really pissed when I wanted to buy some Sting albums a few years ago and I found out that you could only buy "remastered" or "enhanced" versions of them nowadays. Hell, they even had remastered "Mercury falling" from 1996!!! And they wanted tons of money for those CDs! I didn't buy one.

As long as they wouldn't add one CD to each 80s Prince album with outtakes from the specific era in good quality, I would do the same as I did with the WB "Very best of Prince" rip off - ignore it!


Well guys, at least we know what to send 'em for Xmas now; Q tips!!!!!


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Reply #24 posted 12/12/05 9:59pm

suomynona

Handclapsfingasnapz said:

suomynona said:

considering that prince has such a wonderful working relationship with wbr, it should be anyday now smile

owie, the sarcasm...falloff

if his cds get remastered, do you think his face will get reslaved?
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Reply #25 posted 12/13/05 3:18am

Abrazo

Chances are zero as long as Prince and WB don't come to an agreement.
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Reply #26 posted 12/15/05 9:13am

tripp

i say, rerelease them, with a bonus cd.
including all the b-sides from that album
w/ lyrics, and all the remixes of the hits.
plus maybe enhance them all with the offical
videos.
noituloveR lautiripS weN a fo gninwaD eht si sihT
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Reply #27 posted 12/15/05 9:28am

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Neversin said:

EmancipationLover said:

Thanks, Master, for saying this! This whole "remastered" thing is a big rip off of customers imo. I mean, we're not talking about historical recordings from the Bayreuth festival from the 1920s made with some museum-like equipment here, it is stuff from the 80s!

Do a comparison with the "Sign "O" The Times" vinyl (something you probably don't even own or have even heard considering your post...) and the CD and be sure to use your ears...
It seems to me people like you don't even have a clue as to what kind of half-assed job they did when they released Prince's material on CD, not to mention about 99% of all CD's released in the 1980's and 1990's...

Neversin.


Word. So true. With the way Prince used to layer the instruments and sounds, if 1 were 2 hear Parade or Sign O The Times remastered, 1 would hear things they barely perceived before. They R in bad need of remastering... So R all of Stevie Wonders older records, which were originally pressed on Tamla (division of Motown)... shitty quality vinyl.

G.
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Reply #28 posted 12/15/05 9:50am

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Giovanni777 said:

Neversin said:


Do a comparison with the "Sign "O" The Times" vinyl (something you probably don't even own or have even heard considering your post...) and the CD and be sure to use your ears...
It seems to me people like you don't even have a clue as to what kind of half-assed job they did when they released Prince's material on CD, not to mention about 99% of all CD's released in the 1980's and 1990's...

Neversin.


Word. So true. With the way Prince used to layer the instruments and sounds, if 1 were 2 hear Parade or Sign O The Times remastered, 1 would hear things they barely perceived before. They R in bad need of remastering... So R all of Stevie Wonders older records, which were originally pressed on Tamla (division of Motown)... shitty quality vinyl.

G.


nod Agree with all of the above.
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Reply #29 posted 12/15/05 2:31pm

kinke

that would be real nice but he should get some of those old b-sides to us that's never been released
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