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Bad Single choices I wasn't around when Prince was relseing popular singles but I'm sure you guys were what do you think were some bad single choices, what would you have rather had as a single, rember not your favorite song but as a single, that means pop appeal. You can do as many as you want, even if the album wasn't relesed. I will say...
From Musicology Cinnimon Girl was a terrible choice, Illusion or Marrying Kind WOuld have worked perfectly and would have made fantastic videos have fun | |
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Let's start wayyyy back with ...
Parade: Girls & Boys should have been the 2nd single instead of Mountains (which could have been 4th single). SOTT: Housequake Should have been released as 2nd single, instead of IIWYG, and Adore should have been released as 5th single. Lovesexy: Glam Slam should have remained an album track in favor of the Lovesexy song itself. : This album was teeming with potential hits, imo, but the single/order released were mind numbingly bad... I would have gone with something like 1) Seven 2) The Max 3)The Morning Papers/Damn U (Double A-side/TMP sent to pop radio & DU sent to R&B radio) 4) Blue Light or I Wanna Melt With U The Gold Experience: Should have released Dolphin and Shhh before resorting to Gold. | |
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hey jtfolden,I agree with everything you said
"If I Was Your Girlfriend" was a poor single choice.Great song,but it should have remained an album track.There was no way it could have become a big hit. The catchy "Girls and Boys" should have been the second single from 'Parade' instead of "Mountains",which fizzled on the charts. and yes,"Glam Slam" was a poor single choice.The song is too boring for pop radio.The second single from 'Lovesexy' should have been the exciting title track. | |
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Am I the only one who doesn't think Girls and Boys ever would've been a hit? I really don't hear any hits on Parade other than Kiss. It's just not a commercial album.
These are my choices for Prince songs that should've been singles (I may be wrong with a lot of them, and some might've already been released): For You - I'm Yours, Baby Prince - Bambi, I Feel For U Dirty Mind - No complaints Controversy - Let's Work (was this released?) 1999 - No complaints Purple Rain - The Beautiful Ones Around the World in a Day - No complaints Parade - No complaints Sign 'O' the Times - Housequake, Adore Lovesexy - Anna Stesia Batman - No complaints Graffiti Bridge - Elephants & Flowers, Still Would Stand All Time Diamonds and Pearls - No complaints - Blue Light Come - Pheromone Chaos and Disorder - I Like It There The Gold Experience - Dolphin, Endorphinmachine, Shhh Emancipation - Soul Sanctuary NewPower Soul - No complaints Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic - So Far, So Pleased, Baby Knows The Rainbow Children - 1+1+1 is 3, Last December N.E.W.S. - N/A Musicology - A Million Days 3121 - Anything but Te Amo Corazon The world is a comedy for those who think and a tragedy for those who feel.
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For You - Soft & Wet, I'm Yours, Baby
Prince - Bambi instead of Still Waiting, With You or It's Gonna Be Lonely as 4th Dirty Mind - When You Were Mine as 1st single, Dirty Mind, Uptown, Partyup Controversy - Private Joy as 2nd or 3rd single 1999 - Something in the Water instead of Delirious Purple Rain - The Beautiful Ones & Computer Blue instead of I Would Die 4 U & Take Me With U Around the World in a Day - Paisley Park as 3rd single (in US) before America Parade - New Position as 2nd single, Girls & Boys as 3rd (no one could understand words to Mountains) Sign 'O' the Times - Sign to Pop, Girlfriend to R&B, Hot Thing to Pop, Housequake to R&B, Adore to Adult Contemp, It to Pop, Dorothy to R&B, Starfish to Pop, Forever in My Life Lovesexy - Lovesexy as 2nd single Batman - Electric Chair instead of Arms of Orion Graffiti Bridge - Thieves, Joy in Repetition Diamonds and Pearls - also Walk Don't Walk (fit well with the style at the time) - also And God Created Woman to Adult Contemp & The Continental to Pop Come - Pheromone, Papa, Dark (to Adult Contemp), Loose Chaos and Disorder - I Like It There & Zannalee instead of Dinner & December The Gold Experience - 319 as 1st, Eye Hate U as 2nd, Now to R&B, Dolphin to Pop, and Gold as 4th Emancipation - Face Down as 1st, Damned if Eye Do, The Human Body, The Love We Make NewPower Soul - Come On as 1st Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic - So Far as 1st, Strange But True as 2nd, Beautiful Strange (while promoting Rave In2) The Rainbow Children - Family Name, 1+1+1 is 3, Everywhere, Last December Musicology - If Eye Was the Man In Ur Life, Dear Mr. Man 3121 - (Te Amo Corazon -- off to a bad bad start) | |
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"Private Joy" should have been released as a single from 'Controversy'.It's the best track on the album.In fact,it should have been the third single instead of "Do Me Baby",which I think is very overrated.
Why was the sappy "Arms Of Orion" released as a single,instead of "The Future"? A few of the singles from 'Love Symbol' are questionable.Why wasn't "And God Created Woman" and "The Continental" released as singles? Those are two of the strongest tracks."The Morning Papers" was a poor choice for a single. | |
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DavidEye said: hey jtfolden,I agree with everything you said
"If I Was Your Girlfriend" was a poor single choice.Great song,but it should have remained an album track.There was no way it could have become a big hit. The catchy "Girls and Boys" should have been the second single from 'Parade' instead of "Mountains",which fizzled on the charts. and yes,"Glam Slam" was a poor single choice.The song is too boring for pop radio.The second single from 'Lovesexy' should have been the exciting title track. Totally agree. Here's my idea of what singles he should've released from '86-'89, and in what order... Kiss Girls & Boys Mountains Anotherloverholenyohead Sign O' The Times U Got The Look Housequake I Could Never Take The Place Of Your Man Adore Strange Relationship Alphabet St. Lovesexy Eye No I Wish U Heaven Batdance Partyman The Future Scandalous | |
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A Million Days shouls STILL be a single IMO. (BUT ONLY WITH THE RIGHT PROMOTION!!) | |
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XVI said: I wasn't around when Prince was relseing popular singles but I'm sure you guys were what do you think were some bad single choices, what would you have rather had as a single, rember not your favorite song but as a single, that means pop appeal. You can do as many as you want, even if the album wasn't relesed. I will say...
From Musicology Cinnimon Girl was a terrible choice, Illusion or Marrying Kind WOuld have worked perfectly and would have made fantastic videos have fun Cinnimon was a good choice. bad choice- call my name (for a slow song he should of released A million days or Reflection) The greatest romance ever sold (So far so pleased would have been a better choice) | |
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Dirty Mind
Uptown Dirty Mind Partyup Parade Kiss New Position Anotherloverholenyohead Girls & Boys Mountains Sign 'O' the Times Sign 'O' the Times Housequake Adore U Got the Look Hot Thing I Could Never Take the Place of Your Man Lovesexy Alphabet St. Lovesexy Anna Stesia Batman Batdance Partyman Electric Chair Scandalous Graffiti Bridge Thieves in the Temple We Can Funk New Power Generation Can't Stop This Feeling I Got The Question of U Diamonds & Pearls Gett Off Cream Diamonds And Pearls Live 4 Love Money Don't Matter 2night Sexy M.F. The Continental 7 Blue Light My Name is Prince Come Pheromone Space Come (Edited to 3-4 mins) The Gold Experience The Most Beautiful Girl In The World P Control Endorphinmachine Eye Hate U Gold Emancipation Sleep Around Somebody's Somebody Face Down Right Back Here in My Arms La, La, La Means Eye Love U Rave Un2 the Joy Fantastic Baby Knows Prettyman (B-Side, possibly) Hot Wit U The Greatest Romance Ever Sold So Far, So Pleased Musicology Illusion, Coma, Pimp & Circumstance Musicology Call My Name Cinnamon Girl If Eye Was The Man In Ur Life Ooh, little darlin' if you're
free 4 a couple of hours (Free 4 a couple of hours) If U ain't busy 4 the next 7 years (Next 7 years) Say, let's pretend we're married and go all night | |
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What has always bothered me the most the past nearly 20 years
Why thieves and why not joy in repetition? Why i wish u heaven and not anna stesia? | |
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Something in the wate is a great song but not a single worthy song, Delirous was a great choice. Call My Name need to be a single because Sleep On the couch was stupid and the album needed a ballad as a single. Was international lover a single? Did it have a video? I think that would have been a great single for 1999 as a slow song (anything but Free) | |
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LillianLaughs said: What has always bothered me the most the past nearly 20 years
Why thieves and why not joy in repetition? Why i wish u heaven and not anna stesia? because even though they're great songs, they're definitely not hit singles. There's a big difference. | |
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The Morning Papers
1999 (the new master) [Edited 1/2/06 17:38pm] | |
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XVI said: Something in the wate is a great song but not a single worthy song, Delirous was a great choice. Call My Name need to be a single because Sleep On the couch was stupid and the album needed a ballad as a single. Was international lover a single? Did it have a video? I think that would have been a great single for 1999 as a slow song (anything but Free)
i think "something in the water" would've been cool to hear on the radio at the time -- especially after the success of the 1st 2 singles -- it's different and would've drawn a more diverse interest in the album "international lover" was never released as a single (and no video as far as i know); though, interestingly enough, it was nominated for a grammy award btw, i really like "on the couch" but i agree that "call my name" was the better single choice | |
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What were the singles from ATWIAD? I'm guessing/know Rasberry, Pop Life, Tamborine(?) | |
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DavidEye said: "Private Joy" should have been released as a single from 'Controversy'.It's the best track on the album.In fact,it should have been the third single instead of "Do Me Baby",which I think is very overrated.
Yeah, Private Joy is probably the most radio ready cut from that disc. I wonder whether it was Prince or WB that was picking singles at that time. A few of the singles from 'Love Symbol' are questionable.Why wasn't "And God Created Woman" and "The Continental" released as singles? Those are two of the strongest tracks."The Morning Papers" was a poor choice for a single.
The album is, I think, more diverse than most people give it credit for... If Prince or WB had been a little more aggressive / adventurous they could have pimped out several promo only singles in a variety of formats to the appropriate stations. It really is a major marketing disaster, imo, that this album didn't do as well as D&P. | |
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jtfolden said: DavidEye said: "Private Joy" should have been released as a single from 'Controversy'.It's the best track on the album.In fact,it should have been the third single instead of "Do Me Baby",which I think is very overrated.
Yeah, Private Joy is probably the most radio ready cut from that disc. I wonder whether it was Prince or WB that was picking singles at that time. A few of the singles from 'Love Symbol' are questionable.Why wasn't "And God Created Woman" and "The Continental" released as singles? Those are two of the strongest tracks."The Morning Papers" was a poor choice for a single.
The album is, I think, more diverse than most people give it credit for... If Prince or WB had been a little more aggressive / adventurous they could have pimped out several promo only singles in a variety of formats to the appropriate stations. It really is a major marketing disaster, imo, that this album didn't do as well as D&P. I'm so glad that someone feels the same way that I do about the single choices for . I always believed that should have been one of Prince's biggest albums but Prince and WB fucked up royally on this. Songs like Blue Light, The Max, The Continental, Damn U and And God Created Woman were BEGGING to be singles and I think they would have been huge smashes. And then with the choices they made, they jacked it up. 7 should have been first, My Name is Prince could have been released later than it was, Sexy MF could have gone either way and The Morning Papers shouldn't have been released. It's criminal that this CD isn't bigger than it is. I'm not a fan of "old Prince". I'm not a fan of "new Prince". I'm just a fan of Prince. Simple as that | |
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XVI said: What were the singles from ATWIAD? I'm guessing/know Rasberry, Pop Life, Tamborine(?)
In America,the singles were "Raspberry Beret","Pop Life" and "America".The song "Paisley Park" was released as a single in other countries,if I'm not mistaken. Without question,"Paisley Park" is the best track on the album and really should have been a single here in America too. | |
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purplecam said: jtfolden said: The album is, I think, more diverse than most people give it credit for... If Prince or WB had been a little more aggressive / adventurous they could have pimped out several promo only singles in a variety of formats to the appropriate stations. It really is a major marketing disaster, imo, that this album didn't do as well as D&P. I'm so glad that someone feels the same way that I do about the single choices for . I always believed that should have been one of Prince's biggest albums but Prince and WB fucked up royally on this. Songs like Blue Light, The Max, The Continental, Damn U and And God Created Woman were BEGGING to be singles and I think they would have been huge smashes. And then with the choices they made, they jacked it up. 7 should have been first, My Name is Prince could have been released later than it was, Sexy MF could have gone either way and The Morning Papers shouldn't have been released. It's criminal that this CD isn't bigger than it is. I heard that Warners wanted "7" to be the first single.They went nuts when they heard it and felt that it could become a huge hit.But Prince had other ideas.He wanted to release the hip-hop styled "My Name Is Prince" as the lead-off single.It only became a minor hit,but the next single "7" quickly reached the Top 10,as Warners had predicted it would. | |
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purplecam said: I'm so glad that someone feels the same way that I do about the single choices for . I always believed that should have been one of Prince's biggest albums but Prince and WB fucked up royally on this.
Right. D&P was considered a commercial comeback at the time and, imo, they were scraping the bottom of the barrel for good singles there. In fact, I'd even be so bold to say that the album had more hit single possibilities than any disc before it, if handled right. It could have easily been given a major long-term push if a few heads had come together and banged out a marketing plan that made some sense (and $$$). Songs like Blue Light, The Max, The Continental, Damn U and And God Created Woman were BEGGING to be singles and I think they would have been huge smashes. And then with the choices they made, they jacked it up. 7 should have been first, My Name is Prince could have been released later than it was, Sexy MF could have gone either way and The Morning Papers shouldn't have been released. It's criminal that this CD isn't bigger than it is.
Yup, pop out 4 or 5 mainstream singles...promo out a few other tracks to other radio formats, etc... Damn U actually was released as a single but was directed at R&B stations only, IIRC. | |
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I agree , was chalk full of hits. But when you release the rap/hip-hop flavored Sexy MF and My Name is Prince as the first two singles, you are dooming the project from the start. "7" still went on to be a big hit , but you can only imagine what would have been if they lead off with this as the first single.
We often praise Prince being ahead of the curve, but in this case his insistance of releasing rap songs as singles because it was the thing to do and following the rap trend...bad move. My picks for Singles in order: 7 The Continental And God Created Woman (pop) / Damn U (r&b) My Name is Prince Blue Light (as 5th single if the album still had steam) | |
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A lot of people suggested "So Far So Pleased" as a single, but wasn't there a problem with getting Gwen's label to okay it? | |
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Tamborine was full of pop potentail I wonder why it wasn't relsed, maybe it was too short | |
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XVI said: Tamborine was full of pop potential I wonder why it wasn't relsed, maybe it was too short
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sextonseven said: A lot of people suggested "So Far So Pleased" as a single, but wasn't there a problem with getting Gwen's label to okay it?
That rings a bell. I seem to remember that the record company didn't want Gwen on another single so close to a No Doubt release. . | |
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If my memory serves me correctly, Prince has had the final choice of singles on every album except For You and Rave Un2 The Joy Fantastic.
We know his single choices suck. To me it falls into two categories, the great singles than never were, and the bad choices that should have remained great album tracks. Should have been singles: When you were mine Private Joy The Ladder Strange Relationship Housequake Lovesexy When 2 R In Love Electric chair Walk Don't Walk The Continental Dolphin Interactive Lovesign My Computer So far so pleased Baby Knows The last December Illusion Coma A Million Days . | |
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SquirrelMeat said: sextonseven said: A lot of people suggested "So Far So Pleased" as a single, but wasn't there a problem with getting Gwen's label to okay it?
That rings a bell. I seem to remember that the record company didn't want Gwen on another single so close to a No Doubt release. Even so the powers that be should of made that a single | |
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kpowers said: SquirrelMeat said: That rings a bell. I seem to remember that the record company didn't want Gwen on another single so close to a No Doubt release. Even so the powers that be should of made that a single I think that was the point, the powers that be blocked the single release! The only way it could have been a single was if someone else sang in place of Gwen on the single. | |
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sextonseven said: kpowers said: Even so the powers that be should of made that a single I think that was the point, the powers that be blocked the single release! The only way it could have been a single was if someone else sang in place of Gwen on the single. that was not my point | |
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