Number 1 at the bank just means I think he is now making more money than he did with Warners because he is naturally taking a larger royalty through direct sales. A stat says like 95% of your business is through 2% of your customers. So you dont need leagions of fans to make tons of $$$

Prince is laughing at these no-talent ass clowns.What is money when you sell your soul for it? Prince found out that his beliefs were more important. Sure, there are good record companies out there, especially a few out of Nashville who are independent of all the corporate nonsense...however, most are all operated by people who have hidden agendas. These agendas are to stifle creativity, reduce rebellion against the upper class, and make themselves richer in the process.

If they knew what was fair and right, they would give up the car keys this very night.

God is alive, we will survive.


Peace,

JD
[This message was edited Wed Jun 26 14:08:40 PDT 2002 by JDODSON]

Prince actually made the top ten of this (or perhaps a list put together by Forbes I think) list in 1998. I remember the MTV story. The story said that he made $23 million that year. The story said that this was the most that Prince had ever made in a single year.

Most of this was made through sales of Crystal Ball which they say generated him 9 million. The other interesting thing I remember is that they said that Prince made 5 million dollars a year in royalties from his back catalogue.

So unless he is an idiot the boy is not hurting for cash.
[This message was edited Wed Jun 26 12:01:57 PDT 2002 by lovemachine]

Let's face it, although we love Prince to death, he really has'nt had a hit since TMBGITW, so what were u all expecting, all his monetary gains go into his musical muse, so of couse he's going to have a cash-flow issue. He even admitted he was broke in the authorized biography purple reign..keep yo' eyez on the riches!

I think the point is that Prince is doing exactly what he wants, how he wants, when he wants, and is making a decent living at it. It may be detrimental in some aspects to fans as to the uncertainty of releases, quality etc, but for the most part he is doing his thing and it works for him. In the future he will adjust and fix things that arent kosher Im sure.

Nep2nes said: Irish, u dont have 2 prove urself 2 anyone on this site...everyone knows Prince is a has-been whether they admit it or not, we just like the has-been a lot and think he's better than whoever's "in" at the moment. "


Just curious, if Prince is such a "has been" why were you posting comments regarding his recent album "One Nite Alone" being so great?

It's funny how one individual can speak for "everyone" by saying that Prince is a has-been.

I know that some people post comments on this site to simply get under people's skin, but come on.
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PaisleyPrincess said:

Purple Reign WAS NOT AUTHORIZED nor was it very accurate.

The "interview" that she did with him was under the muse of an interview for his new album. You notice that she has about 3 quotes directly from him in the book. The rest of the time she uses quotes that he made on Oprah or other interview.

That book is a joke to say the least.

..... if an artist like Britney Spears is happy making all that money and being a puppet, more power to her...She probably fully understands that she needs to big marketing pushes to get her where she is..She realizes she needs big name producers and songwriters to get her the hits...Why knock her for it? Why should Prince knock her for it?

This is another huge problem that I have with Prince (and his crazy fams here), the lack of positivity...So, other people use the big Record Companies and are more *entertainers* then musicians...So, Prince doesnt want to walk down that path anymore...Do what you want, with whom you want, whatever way you want to do it...Just dont knock your neighbor for doing the same thing.

ITS ONLY MUSIC!!!
[This message was edited Wed Jun 26 15:09:39 PDT 2002 by SkletonKee]

p3r1i9nce said:

being a movie freek I must digress from the topic at hand and respond to this ignorant ass post. Blair Witch earned 28.5 million doallars in it's first week of wide release and went on to earn nearly two hundred million total, thus it's success was not based merely on it's cost but the fact that it made a shitload of money. it's low production cost only added to the profit. get your fucking facts staright!

and to add to the topic, Prince more than likely made the comment to not only refer to his current financial position, which was pretty nice in 98, but to refer to his future earnings, which he figured his would continue in the same manner. thus, the comment can be used to judge his current success, which to be quite frankly, is less than stellar.

IrishEcho said:

You thought he meant that after the road he took he'd be at #1 on the Forbes list? Hahahahahahahahahahahaaa.

No offense intended, I edited the post. I just think that the rich are enslaving all of us in a way. I am an ally Skelton...


Peace,

JD

Facts:

Prince has used Pepsi, Coca Cola, and ClearChannel to support his tour.

Prince will never be #1 at the bank. Why? because while he may be the #1 account at the MPLS Po Man Savings Club Bank and #1000 on the Forbes list, he will never have the status that Bill gates enjoys. I don't think I will ever hear of Prince earning more than a dozen or so million a year ever again. The only wy would be for him to make a SWEET distribution deal (5-8 dollars on the cd) and go platinum. And I don't mean "my three cd disk set shipped 400,000" platinum. I mean "My shit sold 1,000,000 per disk on Sound Scan."

I'LL ASK ONE MORE TIME!!!

WHEN DID PRINCE MAKE THIS COMMENT, AND WHERE?

WAS IT IN A SONG, AN INTERVIEW, WHERE?

IrishEcho said:

But they wouldn't be able to get any figures on Prince. He has no record company, agent, or manager. I doubt if his lawyer would divulge financial information on Prince, and his publicist would be completely in the dark about Prince's finances.

I'm pretty sure I saw Prince on the Forbes lists a couple years ago when he was with Arista.

IrishEcho said:

...and all of this suprises you?

doeineffect said:

the knowledge you seek has been distributed throughout this discussion. perhaps you should reread the posts and piece your answer together.

The key to being Number 1 at the bank is to get there early.

It's quite simple really.

bkw said:

ROFL! Classic.

With all due respect, he earns more than anyone who visits here so who gives a fuck?

Therapy said:

and your knowledge of this is based on?...

The "Number 1 at the bank" quote was about him not having a number 1 hit in a while (at the time) and he said he didn't care cuz he was "number 1 at the bank" meaning he didn't need to have a number 1 hit cuz he had already made his money. He wasn't broke and he didn't need a hit in order to eat his next meal

Janfriend said:

that's an awful liberal interpretation of the statement. number 1 does not mean enough, it means the best. that interpretation can be seen in it's many uses:

#1 single = top single
#1 team = best team
#1 movie = highest grossing movie
#1 at the bank = tops at the bank, not just enough to get by

doeineffect said:

Prince first made this comment at a 1998 press conference in New York,where he was announcing his 'Jam Of The Year' world tour.This interview was aired on MTV.A reporter asked him about the less-than-spectacular sales of 'Emancipation',and Prince got a little defensive and said something like "I may not be # 1 on the charts,but I am Number One at the bank".

It's pretty sad to keep dragging up that one comment Prince made all those years ago and throwing it in his face. And I fail to see the point of this harping on. Who here cares how much money Prince makes? Not I, that's for sure.

The statement was made in the context of how independently distributing his work (without WB) gives him a better share of the profits. Also, I think he was being more humble than boastful - he at least recognises that he does have an awful lot of money. Which he does, no doubt.

How about we start making a list of the stupid things IrishEcho says and keep complaining about how he/she is "full of shit" for the next 4 years on the basis of that single statement? Oh wait, I forgot, in 4 years time you'll be using another new fake username.

Gosh I'm so happy I have someone like IrishEcho to do my thinking for me and tell me that Prince is "full of shit". Without your help, I don't know what I'd do!

I'd like to initiate a vote to remove the "Irish" from IrishEcho because (a) you aren't Irish and (b) you're a fucking embarrassment.

Ian

By the way, I'm aware that the true intention of this thread was to get people to say "hey stop judging Prince on the basis of one statement" so that IrishEcho can reply "oh but Prince himself is judging Abe Lincoln on the basis of one statement".

Sorry IrishEcho to spoil your cleverness. Sorry no one cares enough to respond to your supposedly "controversial" and attention-seeking sig (and aveter). And I'm sorry no one is sufficiently interested in what you have to say, or what Prince thinks of Abraham Lincoln, to actually pay any further attention to your attention whore tactics.

Ian

ian said:

Oooo Whooo! Ian! I curtsy before you in admiration! Very well said!

ian said:

Curtsy, bow, curtsy...damn you're good!

I second the vote to remove "Irish" from his name! Only 1st or 2nd generation Irish Americans have any real claim to that label--otherwise it's just posing and feeble attempts on the part of identity-seeking Americans to claim heritage...

Ian,you do know that "IrishEcho" is really Kellyanne,right?.No matter how many times she changes her usernames,she still spends all her time being negative and controversial.For those of you who don't believe that they are the SAME person,check out these striking similariites...


***On the old site,Kellyanne once mentioned that her purse was stolen by a Black guy near the subway.Recently,Irish mentioned that he was getting on the train,and noticed a Black guy stealing a hubcap.

***On the race threads,Kellyanne would get vicious,highlighting most of her comments.Check the recent race threads and Irish is there,getting vicious and highlighting most of his comments too.

***On Kellyanne's old profile,she listed Sting and Van Morrison as two of her favorite artists.Recently,IrishEcho admitted that Van Morrisson is one of his favorites too.

***Same posting times---Kellyanne used to post in the early morning hours(East Coast time),the way Irish Echo is doing now.

***Same anti-Prince attitude---Remember when Kellyanne used to say things like "Prince hasn't done a decent album since the late 80s"? Recently,Irish Echo said "Be sure to wait by the mailbox for your next crappy Prince CD".

Yep, when IrishEcho first turned up at this site he/she/it was fairly normal, but then something cracked and all of a sudden it was a total Kellyanne clone. For whatever reason there was a huge disparity between how it first behaved and how it acts now. I reckon that came about because Kellyanne was trying to find out if she was slagged because of her reputation, or if she really is obnoxious. Guess the experiment failed, huh?

Anyway, she used to think she had some claim to Irish nationality, so that's another giveaway.

Also, her willingness to use some bald bloke in her profile pic indicates that that ginger-slapper she used previously wasn't her either.

DavidEye said:

First of all, you chucklehead, I was nowhere near the grassy area in Dallas, so let's make sure you can't accuse me of that.

Second, I did not write that I was on the way to a train when I saw the juvenile delinquent stealing the hubcap. Believe it or not, those things do happen in inner cities. Oh, & while I'm not familiar with the redhead's purse stealing story, I imagine that it's quite possible someone can steal a purse & be black.

Third, about race. Nothing I've ever said has been racist. Contrary to what you may believe, refusing to accept blame for slavery is not racist. Refusing to spread my cheeks & say 'here you go, big black stud, punish me for the transgressions of my people' is not racist. Pointing out that it's absurd to criticize Abraham Lincoln for one or two quotes while praising Malcolm X & ignoring his several negative comments about white people is not racist. Just because I don't like 1) criminals 2) beggars 3) ghetto queens & 4) doesn't mean I don't like civilized, reasonable black people who can just get on with their lives.

I am only "vicious" when provoked. And if you think that I am wrong to do that, that's just hypocritical nonsense.

Fourth. Wow - two people of Irish ancestry like Van Morrison? Sweet Jesus! Do you think you could find two British people who like The Beatles? Wait, isn't Ian Irish? Maybe he IS Van Morrison. And Sting? Well, who doesn't like him?

Fifth. Same posting times? I post when I have the time. That happens to be in the morning. I don't happen to know her schedule when she was here, but I remember she was a college student, right? And wow - we live in the same hemisphere, same coast. We're both on the East Coast! I post at the same time as MKevon, & NuPwerSoul too. I'm certainly neither one of those chuckleheads. Next theory, Sherlock.

Finally. A similar growing lack of apathy toward Prince? Wow - I think that's a little more common among visitors of this site than you're willing to admit.

This is silly. Really. So much so that I'm not even going to address the absurdity of it anymore. Kellyanne, whoever she was, was a hot chick & she's gone now. If I were her, I doubt I'd spend my time posting here at all, I'd be so busy feeling myself up. I would rather look at her profile picture all day than read half of the nonsensical ravings of people like DavidEye, but alas. That's no longer possible.