dewalliz said:

Interesting, as I think R,TTR is such a juvenile and embarrassing song. It pretty much ruins the flow of the second half of Controversy for me. Although, Controversy's second half is pretty uneven all around, imo.




Actually, when he made a comment about there being 'nothing else of note' on the album, I think he was putting up a front due to how badly UTCM tanked, and his lousy choice of singles dragged the album down with it. As if saying "I didn't really like it, either" made it's lackluster performance okay. I really love Mountains but there's no way that should have been the 2nd single.

In reality, though, if you look at his actions - he still plays Parade tracks on tour. Sometimes It Snows In April seems to be a concert staple, in particular.




I'd agree that Lovesexy and Batman had issues. I think Graffiti Bridge is a really strong Prince album if you remove the tracks sung by others, though.

Yeah, because for every fan that got pissed off and left, Prince picked up new types of fans that liked that kind of stuff. Also, beginning in the 1990s, a boring "unplugged" trend came about. If Prince had played that song in concert around 1980, 1981, or 1982, he would have been laughed and possibly booed off the stage.

jtfolden said:

But about all of Prince's albums are uneven and Controversy isnt the only one and Parade is also not too much difference with songs are too short or cutting off and going to the next one.

Also I agreed with you on this one that Mountains shouldnt been the next single and Girls and Boys would made a perfect choice followed by anotherloverholeinyohead. You see the pattern of Prince made poor choices of selecting singles and that what he's doing now with Te Amo Corazon.

It seems like the only tracks Prince played from the album is Kiss and Sometimes it snow in april. BUt I could be wrong on that one.
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Aerogram said:

but what is interdenominational Lover.....??

vainandy said:

lol ok i got ya now

vainandy said:[quote]

By 1982, I'd say it's true that Prince's audience was changing quite a bit... Plus, in 1982/1983 he was performing songs like his own "Free" and Joni Mitchell's "A Case Of You", neither of which is very far removed from Sometimes It Snow In April.

dewalliz said:

I don't know, Controversy always sticks in my head as being one of the more uneven and less consistent albums of his from the 80's. The albums that came before (Dirty Mind) and after (1999) are very consistent, imo. Perhaps, with Controversy, Prince was trying to stretch during that second half but didn't quite succeed.



Yes, Girls & Boys would have been a great 2nd single and even had a decent video to tie in with the movie. I never understood why that track wasn't officially released in the US.



I seem to recall Girls & Boys being in recent set lists. I think Venus De Milo and Under The Cherry Moon have gotten a work out every now and then, as well.

jtfolden said:[quote]

dewalliz said:

I dont know either. I agreed and I do like the video and it was better than Mountains--both the song and video.

Anyway Prince is know to choose weaker follow-ups to a strong leading single choice and that goes back to practically when he first starting out. I was just talking about this with another Prince fan. We talked about how Sexy Dancer should been follow up to I wanna be your lover instead of Why you wanna treat me so bad. As much I like WYWTMSB, that wasn't a smart choice for a second single. I even watched how the audience didnt reacted strongly to WYWTMSB toward the end as they had on IWBUL when Prince performed on American Bandstand in '80. Also the same arguement goes to him chosen If I am not your girlfriend instead of Housequake to follow up of You got the look off of SOTT. It's weird that Housequake and Sexy Dancer received more airplay on old school r&b and funk stations than the second singles that Prince chosen.

But I hope this te amo corazon is a backwards thing; a weak single choice and his second single will be a better and stronger choice.

jtfolden said:

this is so true! i've always felt that way about the album. that's the
reason why i don't like it much either, because it seems like an album
made up out of a few good Prince songs, some filler and a couple tracks
for protege acts. it feels uneven and half baked.

i even prefer "Prince" as an album to "Controversy". listening to the
albums that bookend it, dirty mind and 1999, it just falls short imo.

101 said:

Not lover, rover. It's about a guy who changes religion often.

IstenSzek said:

Funny how different peoples tastes are. I always preferred Controversy to Dirty Mind. It's one Prince Album i can never hate!!

dewalliz said:

there is *no* truth when dealing with opinions....can we chill with the arrogance? you peeps aint prince.

sosgemini said:

I was telling what I feel and apparently a few people do find my opinion are the truth that was all so chill no need to get all upset over it dude or preaching about opinions vs fact
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dewalliz said:

who said i was upset?

and once again...nobody found your opinion to be the truth..they simply "agreed" to it.

and im not preaching. and im not going to judge your state of mind like you've attempted to do me in some effort to turn this discussion personal. cause thats not the reason i responded to your comments.

opinions are subjective. there are no truths when discussing them.


(fyi: i wasnt calling you arrogant..i was calling the act of claiming your opinon as fact as an arrogant statement..apologies for not being clear about that up front.)
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sosgemini said:

Trust me sos I am not turning anything personal. you maybe a mod on here but reality you just another anonymous user to me. i dont take anything on the internet personal especially not the org. half of what goes on the internet isnt real to me but that another topic.

and why you keeping on reminding people the difference between fact and opinion? Me and I am pretty sure most of the org knows the difference even sometimes people does go overboard, and keep rehashing it isnt necessary imho.

Like I said several posters agreed with me and in other words they thought what I said was true or in your words agreed with me, never I once said that my truth was right. where you got that from? and if there was misunderstanding then that my fault because I have dont have any intention telling anyone my opinion are facts.

and when I said "thanks baby sometimes the truth shall be known" to vainandy I was saying in a joking way and I wasnt being that serious anyway. I am suprised of receiving a reply over this meaningless matter anyway which to me isnt worth arguing about. I swear sometimes people creat disputes over littlest things.



my goodness.

this is a dispute?

i thought it was a discussion...which is the purpose of this forum, no?

sosgemini said:

i thought this suppose to relates to te amo corazon, senor?