jnoel said:

And I guess your a prime example.

GoldiesParade said:

GoldiesParade said:

I guess it would be too easy to insult you.

jnoel said:

I know a few ppl like this...they are well read on numerous topics but are hopeless at applying their knowledge in 'real life'.

Is this the prince is dumb thread?

randomduck said:

You are talking about emotional intelligence, you may not be, but i think you are

PINGU said:

Yeah; EI, street smarts...whatever you want to call it.

GoldiesParade said:

finally I've changed my mind..., fuck off bitch & goodnight everyone! (it's 1 am here), jn

jnoel said:

Is that the stupid side of you or your "intellectual" side.

Good night.

It depends how you define intellectual. He is not a formally trained intellectual who went through college, etc., but he most definitely IS an organic intellectual--non-traditional and self-trained.

If you focus on what he SAYS, that may confuse you a bit... but if you focus on what he SINGS and PLAYS there is no doubt that he is indeed an organic intellectual--self-trained, self-taught, and very articulate as a musician and lyricist in his ability to reflect on society and make commentary on race, sex, class, and gender.

Prince is his MOST articulate as a musician and when he uses THAT voice (musician's voice), he most certainly is quite an intellectual.

Really! You know what Pisses me off!

Jewish foke act like they don't SIN!

We're ALL Sinners!
Their Greatest SIN is not believing
In their JEWISH Savior Jesus Christ!

Above His head On the Cross in JEWISH
language...

(((KING of the JEWS!)))

sleep with that!

-Jews and gentile All sinners alike!
Jews do bad things too!!
And Yes whe can disagree with what (Bad) Jews
have Done!
Why all this national Pride now days!???
We're all Human! Human..That's all!!
-His Blood covers all!
Like my Pastor once said.
"All Means All and That's All All Means!

-So Now I hate JEWS for Speaking MY MIND???
I hate Blindness!
And Dishonesty!!

Put that under your pillow!

NuPwrSoul said:

Good example, cuz I'm confused after reading this.

Snake said:

You just did a great job of ensuring that people shake their heads in wonder at the idiocy evident here...

PFunkjazz said:

Well Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Duke Ellington, Billie Holliday, and the list goes on... these are all intellectuals. They are not intellectuals in the sense of the academy or politics, but in the sense that their music reflected on and commented upon society, in some cases without lyrics.

In that vein, Prince is very much an intellectual.

Prince is not an "intellectual"... Mmmm... I'm not either, and you still love me, right?

Tom said:

"Prince sounds his smartest when he's not trying to be."

I totally agree! I also agree with your mentioning "Mountains" as an example.

I honestly wouldn't think he would try to target Jewish people in "Family Name." The fact that he used those names, though... I can't explain it. Coincidence? People in the industry? That *is* curious, although probably not intended to offend.

I think Prince is a musical genius, an incredible artist, and even a poet. But an intellectual (in the conventional sense)... not so much.
[This message was edited Mon Jun 24 19:25:23 PDT 2002 by orangesky]

Aerogram said:

The children of the world are dying, the earth is dying, why are we still trippin' on color and creed? IN the name of the father, in the name of the sun, we need to come together, come together as ONE. I am a Jew, I am Black, WHite, Asian, Indian< HMONg, We are ONE, what u feel, I feel...The teacher said, My name is " I am that I am"

cofiko said:

Actually you're quite right. He does lean towards a 'jew bad - black is good - u all owe us - black power trip', but he is able to have his opinions. he does not hold any power other than to express his opinions on a higher profile level. Prince may be anti jewish now, but he was indeed befriended and helped by people of all races, in fact in his early career most of his band and managers were jewish or white. Prince was never discriminated against! Infact he was treated very well racialy, but for unknown reasons, Prince feels the need to identify with so called racial divides. so what is Abraham Lincoln was a racist! This is now! Beside we are all in the same boat racial or otherwise, either people on this planet live together and be tolerant of nonviolent differences or all will parish as one... one planet one truth one enemy... hate and violence... so Prince is far behind on the racial history. This is now. But he is entitled to his perspectives... don't worry no one will ever agree... but a hopeful nonviolent world would be helpful! To each his own. what's yours is yours not his! His is not yours. Respect is a better word. hey have lunch with whoever you wish! don't hate! participate! the past is gone.. welcome to the dawn...

july said:

Please. You don't know that. It's a stretch to say someone of his age has never been discriminated against, no matter what his status. Get a grip.

Prince is a musical genius, no doubt. I think he is very intelligent.

Bladerunner said:

someone of his age? yeah right? He was basicly treated good by whites and people of other races. That's why he wanted his band to be multiracial to protray that he was cool with all races. He has no need to feel he was done wrong, he was done right, and it shows in his music. If black, white and all races get along creativity is heighted.

july said:

Yeah, I'm exactly right. YOU have no idea what his day to day dealings were like with everyone he came into contact with any more than he does of your life. For you to assume such a thing is real silly. And it's naive to think any adult non white person has 'never' experienced discrimination. That's just a dumb thing for anybody to say. The reason you give for him or anyone to have never been discriminated against is weak. A lot of people have been and still have no problem with the people they want to work with. You have a lot to learn.

Bladerunner said:

No! you ain't right! He was encouraged and helped by alot of people of all colors. Discrimination did not play a major role in it. An enviroment of nondiscrimination is what gave him open opportunites. An enviroment where they are validating his creativity as not being black or white or any color, is what made it possible for him to feel comfortable in the mostly white music industry of the early 80's.

Bladerunner said:

Fuck you!

eos23 said:

wtf?...lol

cofiko said:

He's also a product of the disinformation perpetuated in our culture just like so many of the rest of us are. He was a strong-willed, talented young guy who Warner Brother's saw as their version of Shuggie Otis and gave him a deal. Fame followed and swept him into a lot of money. Going from being basically homeless to being the Prince we all knew after Purple Rain fucked with his head just like it would for anyone in that circumstance. He suffers from delusions of grander and all sorts of related quirks. He's as confused as the average shopper to boot... it's just that he has a mic in his face and fanatics hanging on his every next word way too much.

Sorry, I shouldn't try to post when I'm stoned...

MaytesAnus said:

Dont worry, it makes perfect sense to me (although I'm drunk ).

july said:

This is your way of trying to side-step the issue that YOU brought up, "Prince was never discriminated against!" That has NOTHING to do with what you just posted, and it's a STUPID statement. Nobody said a damn thing contrary to what you said aside from that. Nice try, but that statement is just stupid, and plain naive.

MaytesAnus said:

People who make asses of themselves shouldn't post at all.

Bladerunner said:[quote]"Prince was never discriminated against!"quote]

Case closed. Prince was basicly treated very fair, as far as his race.
And was not as a whole discriminated against.

Btw: I Love Prince! Obviously...