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Thread started 12/16/05 6:45am

TheCatWoman

Don't know if I believe him anymore.. especially after his press conference

Here are a few details reveals at the press conference

http://www.startribune.co...83952.html



Prince reveals few details on new album


BEVERLY HILLS, Calif.
"— You sort of wonder why Prince, who has a bad history with big record labels, would sign with the biggest record label of them all.

It's because he could tell them what to do. Prince will release his next album, "3121,'' through Universal Records.

Prince says he got to structure the agreement the way he wanted, as opposed to the other way around. He says he has essentially a handshake deal with just enough signatures to make sure business gets done.

He urges new artists to sit down and have someone explain what everything means before signing anything. Prince is promising a tour but he won't give details, other than to say, "I'm inviting some of my old friends to join us.'' The album comes out early next year."
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That being said;I think he lies alot and I think he is a hypocrite.
He says contracts are not good and he don't believe in them. Didn't he say the same thing when he was married to Mayte, yet married Manuella? Then, he turns around and says he don't do contracts but it was just a little signature here and there. What the heck is that? You either do or you don't, there are no in betweens?

I also don't believe there will be a tour. I think he just says this to keep his fans hanging on as he seems to always do. He had them hanging on by the thought that there would be a 2005 Celebrations and something REALLY super special as in 3121 and the new song Te Amo Corazon, but there was nothing special about, well at least Te Amo. Prince already knows what he fans like and what they don't like. After SST, Brand New Orleans and now Te Amo, I don't think he has it anymore. You can't mix being a Jehovahs Witness, playing footies with Hollywood stars, and making music together. It just won't work. He needs to focus more on one or the other and do what ever it is he decides, RIGHT!

Same thing with his music club. Look at that project, it's a bunch of crap. It's more a fan site than it is a music club. And them PPs been hanging around Prince so much they lie like him. confused

Sorry for the rant, but I guess it's time to just wrap Prince up as a use to be, and just enjoy the OLD music, the beautiful ballads he once made before he became confused with who he is and what he wants. Anyway, I just don't believe anything he has to say anymore. And really, thats okay because one should never expect anything from anybody else, and people change. I just don't like the way he goes about keeping people hanging on.
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Reply #1 posted 12/16/05 6:50am

DavidEye

How long have you been a Prince fan? LOL.He is always contradicting himself,and sometimes not being entirely truthful during interviews/press conferences.You should be used to it by now lol


With that said,I see no reason why there won't be a tour.His last tour was extremely successful and he would be crazy not to tour again,while he has the mainstream audience's attention.
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Reply #2 posted 12/16/05 6:51am

Handclapsfinga
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TheCatWoman said:

That being said;I think he lies alot and I think he is a hypocrite.

you're just now finding this out?


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Reply #3 posted 12/16/05 7:08am

XxAxX

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i think he does contradict himself a lot and i can't say i'd follow the path he's taken spiritually

but i'm not quite ready to wrap him up as a 'use to be'. not just yet
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Reply #4 posted 12/16/05 7:17am

Anji

TheCatWoman said:

I just don't like the way he goes about keeping people hanging on.

U may not like it but wasn't it u, not P, who kept u hanging on?
May b u need 2 quit reflecting on others' 'CONtradictions', n look at ur own.

love
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Reply #5 posted 12/16/05 7:21am

arron

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

TheCatWoman said:

That being said;I think he lies alot and I think he is a hypocrite.

you're just now finding this out?


evil 2nd edit
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I think this is part of his appeal and makes him more interresting. Nobody can ever figure him out, you think he is going to do one thing and he does completely the oposite.
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Reply #6 posted 12/16/05 7:24am

AsianBomb777

Prince ALWAYS SPEAKS THE TRUTH!

First off, the symbol came to him in a dream, and he really felt that Prince was dead. But after 7 years (which is the magic number the the space/time warp continuum for earth shattering changes in reality), he can finally be resurrected as the newer, more boring, Prince and finally put the symbol to rest.

This magic space/time warp continuum is also the reason why he can state that music should be free, yet charge 40 bucks for a semi-polished album (Crystal Ball), often double charging Love4OneAnother customers. It’s not that he’s contradicting himself!
It’s that he’s tapped into universal forces that gives him powers we could never imagine.
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Reply #7 posted 12/16/05 8:03am

Universaluv

Oh lord ya'll act like Prince kicked your dog sometimes. Yeah if you follow stuff he's said over the past 20 years you will find him occasionally contradicting himself.

As long as my dog remains un-kicked, what the hell does it matter to me what some rock star thinks about contracts?



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Reply #8 posted 12/16/05 8:05am

SexyBeautifulO
ne

Universaluv said:

Oh lord ya'll act like Prince kicked your dog sometimes. Yeah if you follow stuff he's said over the past 20 years you will find him occasionally contradicting himself.

As long as my dog remains un-kicked, what the hell does it matter to me what some rock star thinks about contracts?


falloff


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Reply #9 posted 12/16/05 8:08am

SexyBeautifulO
ne

Anji said:

TheCatWoman said:

I just don't like the way he goes about keeping people hanging on.

U may not like it but wasn't it u, not P, who kept u hanging on?
May b u need 2 quit reflecting on others' 'CONtradictions', n look at ur own.

love


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Reply #10 posted 12/16/05 8:32am

DiamondGirl

CatWoman..meet MickG

lol
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Reply #11 posted 12/16/05 8:52am

kisscamille

Prince - a hyprocrite?? You're kidding right wink wink lol

This is nothing new. He's always been a hypocrite. That's why I would never believe anything he'd say if he ever wrote a book about himself. This is also why I don't belong to his music club or take any notice of his religious babble. All his talk about contracts was just a bunch of bullshit because he wasn't getting what he wanted from the record company and he was looking for a way out while still being able to keep all the money.

I love Prince as a musician. He's my all time favourite, but that's about all. Most of his talk is pure BS.
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Reply #12 posted 12/16/05 8:58am

dearlybeloved

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Hey,
No one is mentioning his quote that he will be touring with some old friends! I WANT A GIRLS GROUP, WENDY, LISA, SHEILA, RHONDA, CANDY AND PRINCE. That would be off the chain!!!
1 Thessalonians 5:23
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Reply #13 posted 12/16/05 11:42am

MickG

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DiamondGirl said:

CatWoman..meet MickG

lol


[Flame bait snip - luv4u]
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #14 posted 12/16/05 11:43am

MickG

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If you pealed back all the pettals from a rose would you be ashamed of what you found inside?
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #15 posted 12/16/05 11:49am

DiamondGirl

MickG said:

If you pealed back all the pettals from a rose would you be ashamed of what you found inside?

[Flame bait snip - luv4u]
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Reply #16 posted 12/16/05 11:52am

MickG

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CatWoman: your "rant" is structured very well. You hit on some valid points better then I ever have. Don't listen to [Flame bait snip - BananaCologne] I didn't mean to associate you with her, so I hope you didn't take my comments that way.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #17 posted 12/16/05 12:28pm

prettymansson

his "truth" has always been whatever he feels at that moment....All i want is some badass grooves ....too bad they dont seem to be in him at the moment confused
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Reply #18 posted 12/16/05 12:38pm

Illustrator

You gotta use glitter to make look like gold.
F'rinstance;

He's not a hyporcrite; he's a Gemini.
He's not contradictory; he's complex.
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Reply #19 posted 12/16/05 1:10pm

Moonwalkbjrain

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MickG said:

If you pealed back all the pettals from a rose would you be ashamed of what you found inside?


thats beautiful
Yesterday is dead...tomorrow hasnt arrived yet....i have just ONE day...
...And i'm gonna be groovy in it!
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Reply #20 posted 12/16/05 1:14pm

MickG

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Moonwalkbjrain said:

MickG said:

If you pealed back all the pettals from a rose would you be ashamed of what you found inside?


thats beautiful



it's a loose quote from Prince. I didn't say that, Prince did.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #21 posted 12/16/05 1:43pm

PurpleRein

TheCatWoman said:

Here are a few details reveals at the press conference

http://www.startribune.co...83952.html



Prince reveals few details on new album


BEVERLY HILLS, Calif.
"— You sort of wonder why Prince, who has a bad history with big record labels, would sign with the biggest record label of them all.

It's because he could tell them what to do. Prince will release his next album, "3121,'' through Universal Records.

Prince says he got to structure the agreement the way he wanted, as opposed to the other way around. He says he has essentially a handshake deal with just enough signatures to make sure business gets done.

He urges new artists to sit down and have someone explain what everything means before signing anything. Prince is promising a tour but he won't give details, other than to say, "I'm inviting some of my old friends to join us.'' The album comes out early next year."
-----


That being said;I think he lies alot and I think he is a hypocrite.
He says contracts are not good and he don't believe in them. Didn't he say the same thing when he was married to Mayte, yet married Manuella? Then, he turns around and says he don't do contracts but it was just a little signature here and there. What the heck is that? You either do or you don't, there are no in betweens?

I also don't believe there will be a tour. I think he just says this to keep his fans hanging on as he seems to always do. He had them hanging on by the thought that there would be a 2005 Celebrations and something REALLY super special as in 3121 and the new song Te Amo Corazon, but there was nothing special about, well at least Te Amo. Prince already knows what he fans like and what they don't like. After SST, Brand New Orleans and now Te Amo, I don't think he has it anymore. You can't mix being a Jehovahs Witness, playing footies with Hollywood stars, and making music together. It just won't work. He needs to focus more on one or the other and do what ever it is he decides, RIGHT!

Same thing with his music club. Look at that project, it's a bunch of crap. It's more a fan site than it is a music club. And them PPs been hanging around Prince so much they lie like him. confused

Sorry for the rant, but I guess it's time to just wrap Prince up as a use to be, and just enjoy the OLD music, the beautiful ballads he once made before he became confused with who he is and what he wants. Anyway, I just don't believe anything he has to say anymore. And really, thats okay because one should never expect anything from anybody else, and people change. I just don't like the way he goes about keeping people hanging on.


You seem to feel that Prince is a liar. I disagree with you. I think you've taken things he's said out of context.
"He doesn't believe in contracts, and won't sign them." I think you've taken Prince too literally here. I believe what his meant is long term contracts, like the one he signed way back with Warner. After becoming unhappy with his relationship with them, it left a bad taste long term contract wise, so he won't sign long term contracts. He'd be a fool to make an arrangement with any music company even to distribute this next cd, without a contract detailing all the arrangements. Would you enter a business arrangement without a contract? I didnt think so.
"He was married to Mayte, then married Manuela"..Gee..Prince's marriage was the only one that failed, wasn't it. Who knows what went on with Prince and Mayte?..none of us do. They did suffer a loss of a child, which could impact ANY marriage. He lives in a world we'll never know.
"You can't be a Jehovah's witness, playing footies with Hollywood stars (perhaps you meant footsies), and making music together" Does anyone question Bruce Springsteen's religion, or Bono's, or anyone elses? Shame on you for introducing religion into your arguement. (which by the way has more holes then swiss cheese). From what I've read, the Music Prince makes @ 3121 has been just as brilliant as ever. Doesn't matter where he lives, just what's inside.
"It's time to wrap Prince up as a use to be" Perhaps you meant has been. I disagree with you. That's like someone who gave up on Beethoven when he wrote his 5th symphony. He did write 4 more you know, the last two ever enduring
some Prince fan you are. I feel you're just too immature to understand biggrin
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Reply #22 posted 12/16/05 1:55pm

MickG

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Prince himselfs admits he is a liar in his song "The Truth".

What if HALF the things ever said turned out to be a lie.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #23 posted 12/16/05 2:01pm

PurpleRein

MickG said:

Prince himselfs admits he is a liar in his song "The Truth".

What if HALF the things ever said turned out to be a lie.


"Everything I say is a lie...Mick..Right now I'm lying"
Truth, or lie?
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Reply #24 posted 12/16/05 2:07pm

IstenSzek

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AsianBomb777 said:

Prince ALWAYS SPEAKS THE TRUTH!

First off, the symbol came to him in a dream, and he really felt that Prince was dead. But after 7 years (which is the magic number the the space/time warp continuum for earth shattering changes in reality), he can finally be resurrected as the newer, more boring, Prince and finally put the symbol to rest.

This magic space/time warp continuum is also the reason why he can state that music should be free, yet charge 40 bucks for a semi-polished album (Crystal Ball), often double charging Love4OneAnother customers. It’s not that he’s contradicting himself!
It’s that he’s tapped into universal forces that gives him powers we could never imagine.


don't you have some vagina's to polish or something

smile
and true love lives on lollipops and crisps
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Reply #25 posted 12/16/05 2:12pm

emesem

when he says "contracts" he only means "multi year deals where the record label owns the masters". The thing is no record label will really offer that kinda deal to him anyway. (EMI, SONY and Arista/BMG are not kicking themselves for not owning their respective releases)

For them these distribution deals are just fine as long as the advance is not too steep and the videos dont cost too much. In fact, these deals are sometimes more profitable and less of a headache for them in the long run.
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Reply #26 posted 12/16/05 2:14pm

MickG

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PurpleRein said:

MickG said:

Prince himselfs admits he is a liar in his song "The Truth".

What if HALF the things ever said turned out to be a lie.


"Everything I say is a lie...Mick..Right now I'm lying"
Truth, or lie?


Lie: simply put because the truth behind the lie is a lie. To others not compleatly understanding your words a lie is your truth.


Truth: because everything is based around personal biased perception. You may believe you are telling the truth by lying.


There is no answer to understanding what is a lie and what is the truth. Unless you peal back the layers of the onion and see the root.
News: Prince pulls his head out his ass in the last moment.
Bad News: Prince wasted too much quality time doing so.
You have those internalized issues because you want to, you like to, stop.
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Reply #27 posted 12/16/05 2:20pm

thepope2the9s

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TheCatWoman said:

Here are a few details reveals at the press conference

http://www.startribune.co...83952.html



Prince reveals few details on new album


BEVERLY HILLS, Calif.
"— . I just don't like the way he goes about keeping people hanging on.



Prince is a musical genious and I will always check out his latest release.
He keeps people "hangin on" because he is a musical genious, what he says
about his beliefs or likes/dislikes is not why people attend his concerts or
buy his music/merchandise. It is the music. Sure, you may not like the new
stuff or think it is weak, but some of us like the new and old and realize
he is constantly evolving. For all we know he may have had the song "Te Amo
Corazon" laying around in the vault for 7 or 8 years. We dont know.
All I know is , I will keep on "hangin on", cuz the man is a genious.
Enuff said.
Stand Up! Everybody, this is your life!
https://www.facebook.com/...pope2the9s follow me on twitter @thepope2the9s
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Reply #28 posted 12/16/05 2:31pm

DynamicSavior

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AsianBomb777 said:

Prince ALWAYS SPEAKS THE TRUTH!

First off, the symbol came to him in a dream, and he really felt that Prince was dead. But after 7 years (which is the magic number the the space/time warp continuum for earth shattering changes in reality), he can finally be resurrected as the newer, more boring, Prince and finally put the symbol to rest.

This magic space/time warp continuum is also the reason why he can state that music should be free, yet charge 40 bucks for a semi-polished album (Crystal Ball), often double charging Love4OneAnother customers. It’s not that he’s contradicting himself!
It’s that he’s tapped into universal forces that gives him powers we could never imagine.

[Flame snip - luv4u]
One of Dansa's org hornies woot!
Supa is my gay messiah and he eats homeless dandruff sammitches on the bus.
mad HULK NEED LAID, HULK SMASH!! mad
The reigning queen of GD. All bitches step down.
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Reply #29 posted 12/16/05 2:35pm

DiamondGirl

DynamicSavior said:

AsianBomb777 said:

Prince ALWAYS SPEAKS THE TRUTH!

First off, the symbol came to him in a dream, and he really felt that Prince was dead. But after 7 years (which is the magic number the the space/time warp continuum for earth shattering changes in reality), he can finally be resurrected as the newer, more boring, Prince and finally put the symbol to rest.

This magic space/time warp continuum is also the reason why he can state that music should be free, yet charge 40 bucks for a semi-polished album (Crystal Ball), often double charging Love4OneAnother customers. It’s not that he’s contradicting himself!
It’s that he’s tapped into universal forces that gives him powers we could never imagine.

[Flame snip - luv4u]

He was kidding (sarcastic)
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