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Reply #60 posted 12/18/05 10:14pm

jtfolden

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rudeboynpg said:

Wow John, u r a master at misinterperting my posts and twisting my words 2 your view. I never said he has self-confidence issues. He has issues about his height relating 2 being respected by others. Prince never seems timid at all with a shy, bashful demure 2 me. Shy and bashful suggests lack self-consciousness in the presence of others.


Hey, I'm just taking words at face value. If someone was talking to me about someone else and mentioned they were "quiet around strangers", I really wouldn't have to read too much into that to come up with 'shy'.

...and you don't think that "issues about his height relating 2 being respected by others" has something to do with self-confidence? If we can agree that having 'self-confidence' is 'a feeling of trust in one's abilities, qualities, and judgment' then I'd say that being insecure about your height (a quality) shows a lack of same in that area. He can be super confident about his judgment and still have self-confidence issues about his height. Which obviously he does (or at least DID) given the high heels. You didn't really think that statement that "the girls like 'em" was the whole story, did you? lol
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Reply #61 posted 12/19/05 7:06am

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Yes I guess he is shy really. I think it's just very ironic that for such a shy person he is the most outrageous on stage etc.

To be honest I think that's why I've always related to him.

I can be shy until I get to know people and then....it's difficult to get me to shut-up.

Also it makes me smile that he is so shy publicly yet can write the most personal heart-wrenching songs. It's like this is what I want to say so I'll say it in a song!

Also Prince seems to come across as someone who likes to think carefully about what he says. Even a small song like "Nothing Compares 2 U" seems to have every word chosen really carefully.

I do agree that it is about control. But probably more to control himself rather than others. Maybe he doesn't want to say anything flipantly and regret it.
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Reply #62 posted 12/19/05 11:13am

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ehuffnsd said:

offthe top of my head Madonna wrote from her first two albums

Lucky Star
Burning Up
I Know It
Think of Me
Phycisal Attraction NOPE!
Everybody
Ain't No Big Deal
Angel
Over and Over
Shoo-Bee-DooPretender
YES she actually did write this one!
Stay
Into the Groove
Gambler

She wrote all of True Blue, the tracks from Who's That Girl Like A Prayer
All the songs not included in Dick Tracy from I'm Breathless were written by here[

Rescue Me from the Immaculate Collection
All of Erotica and This Used to be My Playgroud
All of Bedtime Stories minus the Title Track, I'll Remember


This is incorrect.

The only song I can find that she wrote herself is Shoo Be Doo! The earlier stuff is hard to decipher, but the 1st album hits (Borderline, Holiday, etc.) were written by Reggi Lucas, and most of the other cuts were with Stephen Bray it seems.

She did NOT write Physical Attraction, and pretty much ALL the later stuff incluidng Ray of Light is CO-Written (which I assume means she wrote the words) by either Patrick Leonard (most of Like A Prayer album; lost of Ray of Light) , Stephen Bray, Dallas Austin (Bedtime stories album) Shep Pettibone, William Orbit etc.


According to US Copyright database:

http://www.loc.gov/cgi-bi...t/locis.pl

Borderline words & music: Reggie Lucas.
Physical attraction words & music: Reggie Lucas.

Crazy for You: words & music: Warner Brothers, Inc., as employer for hire of John Bettis & Jon Lind.

Into the groove : from the Orion motion picture, Desperately seeking Susan / words and music by Madonna Ciccone and Steve Bray.

Papa, don't preach / Brian Elliot ; additional lyrics by aMadonna ; [performed by] Madonna. Pretender / Madonna, Stephen Bray ; [performed by] Madonna.

Open your heart / aMadonna, aGardner Cole, aPeter Rafelson.

Who's that girl?words & music: Madonna Ciccone, Pat Leonard.

Causing a commotion.Madonna Ciccone, acBlack Lion Music as employer for hire of Steve Bray.


The Look of love.words & music: Madonna Ciccone, Pat Leonard.

Can't stop.words & music: Madonna Ciccone, acBlack Lion Music as employer for hire of Steve Bray

El Coco loco (so so bad) Coati Mundi A. Hernandez

Like a prayer / [by Madonna and Patrick Leonard]

Till death do us part / [by Madonna and Patrick Leonard]

Promise to try / [by Madonna and Patrick Leonard]

Cherish / [by Madonna and Patrick Leonard]

Dear Jessie / [by Madonna and Patrick Leonard]

Act of Contrition / [by Madonna and Patrick Leonard]

Spotlight Madonna Ciccone, Curtis Hudson & Black Lion Music, as employer for hire of Steve Bray.

I'm going bananas / Michael Kern, Andy Paley.

This used to be my playground.words & music: Madonna Ciccione, Shep Pettibone.

Rain ; In this life.words & music: Madonna & Shep Pettibone.

Erotica ; Bye bye, baby ; Deeper and deeper ... [et al.]words & music: Madonna, Shep Pettibone & Tony Shimkin.

Bye bye, baby.words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Shep Pettibone & Tony

Bad girl.words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Shep Pettibone & Tony Shimkin

Thief of hearts.words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Shep Pettibone & Tony Shimkin

Words words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Shep Pettibone & Tony Shimkin

Why it's so hard.words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Shep Pettibone & Tony Shimkin

Secret Garden words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Andre Levan Betts.

In this life. words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Shep Pettibone.

Waiting words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Andre Levan Betts.

Where life begins.words & music: aMadonna Ciccione, Andre Levan Betts.

Up down suite.Madonna, Shep Pettibone & Tony Shimkin.

Forbidden love ; Take a bow.words & music: Kenneth B. Edmonds, a.k.a. aBabyface & Madonna

I'll remember : theme from With honors : album version / Patrick Leonard, M. Ciccone, Richard Page.

Secret words & music: Madonna & Dallas Austin.

Survival words & music: aMadonna & Dallas Austin.

Nothing really matters words & music: Madonna Ciccone p.k.a. Madonna, Patrick Leonard.

Frozen words & music: Madonna Ciccone p.k.a. Madonna, Patrick Leonard.

Ray of light. & music: William Mark Wainwright (p.k.a. William Orbit ,
pseud.), Madonna (a.k.a. Madonna Louise Ciccone), Clive Muldoon.


I could keep going but I"m not finding anything written soley boy her except Shoo Be Doo!
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Reply #63 posted 12/19/05 11:58am

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Yes it's sort of like how the Spice Girls wrote their "songs"
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