I mean happy inside? When I see pictures and interviews with him in 1999 he honestly looked joyous and happy and it seemed like his relationship with Larry really made him excited about life. He always seemed to have such a happy look on his face during concerts. Not like a fake happy but a real inner peace.

Now honestly when I look at pics of him in this year or see him at the award shows he kinda has this dead look in his eye. Hmmmm...maybe he is just stressed out but I don't know he just doesn't look happy to me. I hope he is though.

Krystal666 said:

Lets see? I believe Prince has always had some deep spiritual shit going on inside him. For those that can't understand this, count yourself lucky. Sometimes a "gift" can seem more like a curse. In that, 'happiness' is bland because the happy that can be drawn from the phyical world is very flat.

the dead look in his eyes I would explain away by the blank stair of a bandage he puts on called religion. Is he happy? He is at least as happy as he has ever been. His happyness is momentary, flashing peace that passes through him as he forgets for a moment the battle within and enjoys a fun event or feeling.

But, maybe that's just me.

Sure. The ~Watchtower~ cult has him believing he's going to heaven/paradise when he dies... while all the rest of us apostates are heading for an everlasting eternity of extreme, ultimate torture in hell for even and ever.

NoTime2Hate said:

that's just not true and you know it

you ain't no fool.

prince just enjoys a type of "politeness" that is often only found in those religious fakes. unoffencive self rightous types. The real angelic types are qurkey for lack of a better word.

The happiest Prince has ever appeared to me, was during the "Emancipation" era. He was finished with Warner Brothers, he was married and seemed to be genuinely in love with Mayte, and he was expecting a baby on the way. He hasn't looked happy since.

Who's happy all the time? Just people on morphine and QVC presenters.


Although, if Prince isn't happy, with his jet-set millionaire lifestyle, a certified place in the history of modern popular culture and beautiful lovers throwing themselves at him, well I dunno what his problem is.

vainandy said:

it only seems logical though. that was the first time he allowed the
'real' world to enter his life so deeply. he opened himself up and i
think he genuinely meant it.

however, we all know how it backfired and i think he's never been an
inkling of what he was since that time.

stuff like that is hard to cope with for any normal human but for an
artist of Prince's stature who lived his life in a self created dome
for 90% of the time where he called all the shots and was ultimately
the one who made things happen HIS way, it must've been an experience
he never fully recovered from.

i think if anything, it made him realise just how out of touch he had
become over the years and somehow you can just feel it and see it now
in his manner that he's been trying to catch up with himself and what
he forgot to be over the last decade.

he's just growing up, again. and as an adult, he now makes different
and more safe decisions. the ones he thinks he'll be comfortable with
for the rest of his life. stuff he think's he'll never regret of have
to rethink.

MickG said:

Who are either of you to judge the sincerity of another?

It was written all over his face and you could hear it in his music. Prince seemed to be head over heels in love and extremely happy at the time. This was also the first time he ever remade someone else's songs and look at two of the choices....The Stylistics and The Delfonics. These are two groups that are known for some of the best love songs ever. That's the kind of stuff you turn on a red light in a basement to. I know people that don't even like Prince and they were saying "that little freaky motherfucker is in love".

Prince was floating on Cloud 9 so much it was even affecting his judgement in clothes. I mean, look at that rediculous looking hooded coat he was wearing in the videos at the time. He looked like a gangsta queen.

Heiress said:

are you talking about the guy I was commenting to? because if so I think your judgement of our judgement is off by bias. I thought he was joking around. I was just pointing out some things I felt need to be said. Who are the "two" you are talking about?

vainandy said:

man when I saw that, combined with that haircut and those moonwraps
and the glittery sprinkles all over him, I swear the first thing on
my mind was "Oh my god, it's Lord of the Rings, Gangsta Style" with
a pit of Priscilla thrown in".

I believe Prince is only truely happy when he is up on stage with all that energy flowing around and through him.

MickG said:

You and the person to whom you addressed your comments. Not sure if the guy was joking around... there's an awful lot of goofiness about Prince here, that sounds so absurd you would THINK it's a joke... which is not always the case.

Heiress said:

The sayer spoke of the JW religion prince is curently "into" as the watchtower cult. Cult isn't a good word to use for a religion, although it isn't a bad word to use, Watchtower is a properganda publication that the JW's put out. Thus I assumed sarcasim.

MickG said:

good for you. but some people actually do speak that ignorantly.

i have a feeling happiness means something entirely different to prince than to us...(not me but MOST of us fans/humans) ..I think he lives for peoples approval (even when he was a rebel..dirty mind, controversy,1999...ect) as long as u see/feel life in that way...everyday will be a winding road that can always have some pain just around the bend !

vainandy said:

Once again I think you nailed it Andy. To me that was when he was truly happy and his heart was really open, (I miss that guy). You could see it and hear it in everything he did. I think the subsequent traumas he experienced caused him to second guess himself and put on certain restraints. I believe he hasn't looked that happy since because he placed a set of limitations on himself that while it allows him to feel safer, it doesn't permit him to flow as freely.

Like someone else mentioned, he's now making choices that he feels he can live with the rest of his life. Choice is what life's all about, right?

That's my two-bit armchair analysis.

IstenSzek said:

Agreed.

NoTime2Hate said:

***

Jehovah's Witnesses do not even believe in Hell. They do not accept the doctrine.

And they don't believe in Heaven as a destination for immortal souls or spirits either.

Apart from that your post is completely accurate.


Peace
Mr7

Yep I think there are a lot of good points here.

The era that bothered me most was when he was covering his face up.

It felt like he was hiding or something.

I also agree that I think he realises how out of touch he had become.

I always think that in the 80's he had a lot of stick from the press and when you think about the sheer quality of his work etc it seems really unfair.


I think he may have become quite cynical.

babynoz said:

I'm with you 2 on this....I feel he was head over heels in love with mayte and the baby and was at his happiest (but who knows for sure)...so so sad...I don't think he's ever been the same since...and I hope and pray he doesn't blame himself for what happened. Sometimes I wonder if he was told or convinced of that it was his choices in life that caused things to go wrong? I SO hope that's not the case.... but he's drastic lifestyle changes since then make me wonder.
I hope he's happy inside and out...but unfortunately I don't think he is.

Im sure he is alot happier when he doesnt read the org.

Watch the movie "The Holy Girl".
Seems like there'll always be that struggle between sexuality and spirituality for him.

Mr7 said:

How can you believe in 'salvation' if you don't acknowlede its opposite?

NoTime2Hate said:

Ah Ha! lies lies lies lies...

oh yeah, he's had a wonderful career nuff said!!!

NoTime2Hate said:

Because such an "opposite" in the form of a fiery place of torment is not supported by the bible. That's how.
The true opposite of salvation is everlasting death.

kinke said:

I don't know you, nor do I know your station in life. I can only assume you assume you would be happy with his career. I have come to find happyness isn't what you are doing. I use to think if I was making good money and have a confertable home I would be happy. But I find, that deep down happyness is an illusion perhaps. Don't get me wrong, I am very happy now that I have the money and home, but that doesn't mean I am a happy person.

MickG said:

Wow. Yes. This is so true. I really know where you are coming from.

I just think that when Prince hooked up with Larry he just looked lighter. Actually I think his and Larry's friendship is really a saving grace for him. When you meet someone you really click with and love (whether it is a friend or lover) you really start to feel really postive and optimistic about life. You could just see happiness on his face when he was hanging with Larry in 1999.

Uhh but I don't know. Nowadays he just looks kinda...ehhh...dead.

I can't tell, but I hope so. I wish him much happiness and sweet love.