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Touring Hey guys, sorry U mite think this is one of those "same ol'e threads" but I fink this topic really interesting.
We are hearing that Prince has planned a world tour for next year, we all know that his tour of the US was amazing, he had the biggest tour of the year, Live he was fantastic, you really couldn't beat him. Now 2006 Madonna is also doing a world tour, I've never really seen much of her live, but from what I have seen, she can pack a full house. SO who will have the biggest tour outta the two, U reckon prince could do a stadium gig in the UK? or even Europe? or even top his 2004 tour! Cheers! Keenmeister | |
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Prince had a massive tour of America in 2004 because of several factors - the grammy awards performance and the rock n' roll hall of fame put him back in the American public's eye, and then he followed that up by promising the concert would be full of hits and the last time he would play them. Plus he played a helluva lot of dates.
All that combined to draw in the crowds of non-hardcore fans which is what you really need to fill out arenas. Whereas Madonna doesn't need any hype. She just announces she's going on tour and her tickets sell out. She's still on the top of her game and has never alienated her casual audience by playing too challenging music. Madonna can still sell-out arenas in Europe AND America. I think Prince would find it harder in Europe, but he might just get away with it. I think all in all, it could be a close thing. Madonna made more money, gross, than Prince in 2004, but because of higher production costs, she fell behind Prince by only a few million in terms of profit. Overall, Madonna's still got the edge, from a world-wide perspective. And I doubt Prince can get away with the 'last time playing hits' thing again, plus it's likely that this next tour will be less hit friendly and be a bit more composed of newer material. | |
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Madonnas ticket prices started 50 dollars higher than the most expensive Prince ticket. Give me a break with your madonna logic. Prince has proven over the past 22years that if he wants to play to the big areans and sell them out, he can.Why do you have such a problem with that. If you like madonna better, thats cool. But the logic is silly. | |
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Uh....what? | |
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Plus i reckon it would come to Europe first.
Fuck the funk - it's time to ditch the worn-out Vegas horns fills, pick up the geee-tar and finally ROCK THE MUTHA-FUCKER!! He hinted at this on Chaos, now it's time to step up and fully DELIVER!!
KrystleEyes 22/03/05 | |
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Madonna also toured smaller venues than Prince did and , as was said before, charged much higher ticket prices. "New Power slide...." | |
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Moderator | You know, I forgot all about that "Last time he'll perform the hits" thang ...
Now that's a show I'd love to see! I remember seing him perform songs off the gold experience in Miami waaaay before the album came out. I left that morning feeling like I just witnessed some phenomenon. That show was just amazing because you really had no idea what to expect and boy was that funk saturated. All Rights Reserved. |
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metalorange said: Prince had a massive tour of America in 2004 because of several factors - the grammy awards performance and the rock n' roll hall of fame put him back in the American public's eye, and then he followed that up by promising the concert would be full of hits and the last time he would play them. Plus he played a helluva lot of dates.
All that combined to draw in the crowds of non-hardcore fans which is what you really need to fill out arenas. Whereas Madonna doesn't need any hype. She just announces she's going on tour and her tickets sell out. She's still on the top of her game and has never alienated her casual audience by playing too challenging music. Madonna can still sell-out arenas in Europe AND America. I think Prince would find it harder in Europe, but he might just get away with it. I think all in all, it could be a close thing. Madonna made more money, gross, than Prince in 2004, but because of higher production costs, she fell behind Prince by only a few million in terms of profit. Overall, Madonna's still got the edge, from a world-wide perspective. And I doubt Prince can get away with the 'last time playing hits' thing again, plus it's likely that this next tour will be less hit friendly and be a bit more composed of newer material. Exactly! | |
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Bull said: Madonnas ticket prices started 50 dollars higher than the most expensive Prince ticket. Give me a break with your madonna logic. Prince has proven over the past 22years that if he wants to play to the big areans and sell them out, he can.Why do you have such a problem with that. If you like madonna better, thats cool. But the logic is silly.
You made a really good points here, about the price of Madonnas concert tickets. But that only goes to show, with sell out concerts, and ticket prices that high, she still got it going on. Really!?? Answer me this; do you think Prince would have sold out arena's if he would have sold his tickets for the same price as she did? Because, personally, I don't think so! | |
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No I don't think that P would have sold out as many shows as Modonna at that high a ticket price. Modonna is more commercial, she is going to sell more tickets. Thats cool, I don't have a problem with her doing that. If people want to pay that much for a show, its there money. I just think that P is more into people having a chance to experience the whole vibe as well as a great musical show. If he charges less for a ticket to make sure that more people experience a show , how is that a negative?. And you also received a CD. | |
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i will fuckin be there, with bells on | |
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Bull said: No I don't think that P would have sold out as many shows as Modonna at that high a ticket price. Modonna is more commercial, she is going to sell more tickets. Thats cool, I don't have a problem with her doing that. If people want to pay that much for a show, its there money. I just think that P is more into people having a chance to experience the whole vibe as well as a great musical show. If he charges less for a ticket to make sure that more people experience a show , how is that a negative?. And you also received a CD.
You are right! Nothing negative about that. But, If I was not given the CD (musicology) at the concerts, I would not have bought it. I don't think it was worth my money, to buy. Really! But thats just my own opinion. I did enjoy the Musicology concert only because he performed some really cool songs. And not many at all from the Musicology Album. | |
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TheCatWoman said: Bull said: Madonnas ticket prices started 50 dollars higher than the most expensive Prince ticket. Give me a break with your madonna logic. Prince has proven over the past 22years that if he wants to play to the big areans and sell them out, he can.Why do you have such a problem with that. If you like madonna better, thats cool. But the logic is silly.
You made a really good points here, about the price of Madonnas concert tickets. But that only goes to show, with sell out concerts, and ticket prices that high, she still got it going on. Really!?? Answer me this; do you think Prince would have sold out arena's if he would have sold his tickets for the same price as she did? Because, personally, I don't think so! ONA Live in Hamburg 2002 had incredibly high ticket prices and the show was completely sold out within 2 days. Prince did that without too much public attention, a hit album or whatever, just because he's Prince. He didn't even have to play complete crap like Madonna to get the arena full. And it wasn't playback. | |
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Well catwoman, for whats it's worth, I haven't purchased a Madonna record since1988 and that was a 12inch. I really don't like her music. I have no problem at all with her making a great living nor am I going to diss her because I don't like her music. I guess it just comes down to what kind of music people like. PS, I got free tickets to the last Madonna tour and I didn't go, I gave the tickets to my bro's friends.I personally couldn't imagine sitting thriugh that for 2 hours.Especially the lip singing. | |
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Bull said: Well catwoman, for whats it's worth, I haven't purchased a Madonna record since1988 and that was a 12inch. I really don't like her music. I have no problem at all with her making a great living nor am I going to diss her because I don't like her music. I guess it just comes down to what kind of music people like. PS, I got free tickets to the last Madonna tour and I didn't go, I gave the tickets to my bro's friends.I personally couldn't imagine sitting thriugh that for 2 hours.Especially the lip singing.
I hear you. I wouldn't attend her concert either. I just don't find her entertaining and for the record, I have NEVER bought her albums I just like reading the org, Peeps here are funny as heck and they are entertaining. For what it's worth, I am just running my fingers here .. for the most part, I admire Prince ALOT! .. but don't tell anybody I said that, it's a secret | |
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Bull said: Madonnas ticket prices started 50 dollars higher than the most expensive Prince ticket. Give me a break with your madonna logic. Prince has proven over the past 22years that if he wants to play to the big areans and sell them out, he can.Why do you have such a problem with that. If you like madonna better, thats cool. But the logic is silly.
I was merely waying up the factors that will decide who makes more money next year, which was the original question of the thread. It's nothing to do with who's better. You can argue that it doesn't matter who earns more, which is of course true, but that was the question posed, so I offered my opinion. And, incidently, Prince selling out arenas is not always a guarantee - with Prince actually losing money on the USA stretch of the Lovesexy tour, for instance. | |
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scandalousalan said: i will fuckin be there, with bells on
LOL! Me too!! I'm already putting money into my Prince tickets fund! | |
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