You obviously dont get it.
Prince dont give a shit about
record sales and a "so called" career or record deal.
He is about the music,,not the fame.
YOu moron.

DOnt you see...he dont care about being like Madonna or MJ..the ones who care so much about thier image and career and hits.

"FAM" ALERT:

In regards to thepope2the9s comment, I thought that I would share the lovely orgnote that he/she/it sent me:


orgNote: get a clue MORON
From: thepope2the9s (click to see profile)
Subject: get a clue MORON
Sent: Thu Jun 20 12:53pm

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You obviously dont get it.
Prince dont give a shit about
record sales and a "so called" career or record deal.
He is about the music,,not the fame.
YOu moron.

DOnt you see...he dont care about being like Madonna or MJ..the ones who care so much about thier image and career and hits.




Sniff... sniff... I think I smell a "FAM."

Hahahahahahaha!!!

:LOL:
:LOL:
:LOL:
:LOL:

Is it impossible to respect anyone's view other than your own? Hahahaha!

thepope2the9s said:

Yeah, you moron. How stupid you are. He don't care...I mean "he dont care".

Im shocked you did not know that Ice, you MORON.

Also to be a real FAM like me, U need 2 type wordz l(eye)ke this.

thepope2the9s said:

Word to the wise: If you're going to call out somebody's intelligence and call them a "moron", be REEEAAALLL careful about your spelling and grammar.

GoldiesParade said:

You wanna hear something even more humorous?

Here is some personal information from thepope2th9s:

"Dislikes
I dont hate anyone, but i do hate certain types of behavior, including lying,cheating,stealing,killing,racism,discrimination,jealousy,envy,and all negative actions in general."

I find it amusing that he "hates... all negative actions in general" yet calls me a "moron" both on the board and in a private orgnote. Hypocrisy, you say? Nope... hypocrisy takes a brain.


And... dig this... his picture for you all to enjoy:




How do you like that...

AzureStar said:

You're right, it is rather humorous... read below for more of his personal information and tell me if his post makes you think that he is really like he says below:

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Me
Todd Anthony, is me,.I love creative writing--poetry,songs,stories, movie scripts...Im open minded, but I know the truth and hold tight to it...I can dance,make u laugh, and if your a woman I can please u like nobodys business...dig?

Dislikes
I dont hate anyone, but i do hate certain types of behavior, including lying,cheating,stealing,killing,racism,discrimination,jealousy,envy,and all negative actions in general.

LOVE
YOU CAN HAVE EVERYTHING IN THIS WORLD, BUT IF YOU DO NOT HAVE LOVE,,,YOU HAVE NOTHING. SO HOW DOES ONE RECIEVE LOVE? GIVE LOVE!!!,, THAT IS HOW. WHAT YOU GIVE,yOU WILL RECIEVE BACK.

Well, he was right on one point: "WHAT YOU GIVE,yOU WILL RECIEVE BACK."

he certainly got back what he gave...and it wasn't love.

AzureStar said:

People shouldn't try to fuck with each other like that... you are right... he got it back.

He was not wise in his decision to post an attack... maybe he will learn.



BTW: You are still sugar, spice and everything nice!

herbthe4 said:

LOL my thawghtsz eggzactlee

Theres a fam in town - RUN.

Jesus Christ! ROTFLMAO! Now you're just being mean! Resorting to photographic evidence to make a point. I'm glad I never put my fucking picture up, you moron.

For a moron, Ice, you sure are extremely intelligent and full of compliments.

what prince needs is to just be prince. now i know that can be translated in sereral different ways by several different people. who are we to say that he isnt just being prince? i have my issues with some of the decisions that he has made over the past 10 years, but damn when i listen to TRC and when i saw him on tour a few months ago it was one of the tightest shows i had ever seen him do.

i know we are all used to the raw prince in the trench coats and bikini drawers and all, but isnt a man allowed to grow up and mature without people totally writing him off? i mean i love "the old" prince just a much as the next person, but i love the new prince as well. i respect any persons decision to change and to do what he wants and believes in.

he doesnt need any dr. dre or whatever. i do think that he should work with some other artists in the studio...ie...meshell, lenny, sade, etc. maybe even d'angelo or raphael saddiq. who knows. if he does he does, if not he is still the baddest mutha to ever record and the baddest musician that i think this planet will ever see. he has given all of us more than we deserve musically and i think that we should appreciate that. hell if you dont like the new music go back and listen to dirty mind or for you or sign o the times. i mean you have thousands of songs to get enjoyment from.

Musically, I agree with you, djdredd. But, his business sense lacks when it comes to NPGMC...in my opinion.




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[This message was edited Thu Jun 20 13:22:52 PDT 2002 by AzureStar]

GoldiesParade said:

This thread warms my heart... it reminds me of our beloved "general discussion" forum!

AzureStar said:

djdredd said:

he tried that on Rave, with less than satisfactory results.

herbthe4 said:

i think rave was a major label rush job and the people who picked to work with besides maceo, di franco and chuck d, were just popular faces on mtv and pretty much worthless in my opinion. what i mean is that prince should get some folks who can actually play and contibute in the studio and bring a different element to his music and press record and see what happens. i remember years ago there was all this talk of an album with meshell and lenny. now if that were to ever happen i am sure it would be hot!

i just wonder who is going to be the torch bearer after prince? the outlook is very grim if you ask me.

Lets keep Prince all too ourselves. And let Ice be so stupid on his own.

[This message was edited Thu Jun 20 13:43:55 PDT 2002 by GoldiesParade]

kmc said:

Exactly. I agree with you.

Universaluv said:

Because he's not a good businessman - not by himself anyway. I don't know for a fact whether or not he has a manager, but it seems that the way his music club is run and some of the decisions he makes over the recent years are without the advice of a competent manager. Don't you think certain aspects of his career could be going a wee bit smoother? Some of the complaints from club members are justified. It seems he has a drunken crew of salespeople running it. I used to see responses from the NPGMC to a couple of its members and those responses are less than business-like, and sometimes a bit condescending - when there was no condescension about the inquiries that the member(s) had made.



Yes, Clear Channel is the devil. But honestly, radio airplay is big business payola. Independent artists don't get featured like someone who is backed by a major label. The major labels have the money to consistently pay for airplay, so it would be a shock if Prince actually received some airplay with his newer material. The good news (for those who don't like the monopoly that Clear Channel has created) is that CC is under fire, and so is legal payola in general. Changes are afoot, but how fast a change will come, and how much of a change will take place remains to be seen. The music industry is going through changes in other aspects too. And that's a good thing. For Prince it may be good that he got out from under a less than ideal situation anyway.



I agree that he appears that way. I would hope he never chases top 40 again like he did with Rave, because it waters down his music when he does that. And to be totally frank about it; most people of Prince's age and older are discriminated against when it comes to consistent mainstream radio airplay of NEW music.

It's not that I'd like for him to be in the zeitgeist of the moment with performers of much less merit or staying power (I definitely don't because he'd have to conform to certain things), it's just that at the business end I believe he could be doing much better. The days of Cavallo/Ruffalo/Fargnoli are behind Prince.

"thinkin all along that he wanted 2 be rich"

seems to me like prince is doin fine

xenith said:

He might be doing fine, but there is a great amount of irony in that statement...

"Thinkin' all along that he wanted to be rich... never respected the root of all evil and still don't to this day..." - Prince


"I'm number one at the bank!" - Prince

I heard from his own mouth in an interview that he does not consider himself a business man. He says he isnt interested in sales and is a musician, putting out his music. I think it depends on whether a person likes his recent work as to if they think his career is dead, dead, dead. Personally, his music seems very much alive. Seems to me, it's the lyrical content that is alienating so many people.

So I disagree. I think from an outsiders point of view, that it has seemed he has desperately needed things in the past, he certainly doesnt seem desperate in his life at the moment for anything.

Oh... and let us not forget:

IceNine said:

yes he DOES... a real publicist, another PR person for back up - a new PA cause the one's he's had ain't on their toes keeping him on his toes (not being a YES man)

and he needs Fred... did i say that (gasp!!)

djdredd said:

I agree with that. I don't think there is anything of a strictly musical aspect that Prince could learn from Dre.



Come on, those you listed are hardly just popular faces on Mtv considering they're not featured on Mtv. The depth of Prince's material was lacking in a big way on that album. DiFranco happens to be a big fan, as does Maceo. They both have musical merit.



The people you mentioned (Maceo and DiFranco specifically) can definitely play. But I hope to God Prince just stays away from rap with his music. It was part of his creative downfall. Being from my all time favorite hip hop group Public Enemy, Chuck D. will forever have my respect, although Prince and rap is like oil and water.



Lenny. Speaking of popular faces on Mtv.

djdredd said:

I actually like that record more than most, and thought "Undisputed" kicked ass, but maybe I'm just biased because I love Chuck D's voice. He wasted Sheryl Crow, Gwen and Anni. "Prettyman" I like a lot.

Now that last question is great, and one I've asked myself from time to time: who are the musicians performing NOW that we will remember 20 years from now. I can hardly think of any. Alicia's got a shot, if she doesn't fuck it up, and for a while I thought Beck was the real thing; the white Prince or the funky version of Peter Gabriel. But really, no shit, for all the talk of Prince's career being "dead", name 5 other musicians who have lasted this long and STILL command top dollar for thier concerts. I can think of: Dylan, The Dead, The Stones, Sinatra, Elvis, James Brown...who else? And yeah, 2 of those are dead and one's in jail.

You're right...where are the torch bearers?
[This message was edited Thu Jun 20 13:55:33 PDT 2002 by herbthe4]

Therapy said:

He's using NPGMC to put out his music and doing it on his own...so yes, he is attempting to be a business man. He may not be interested in sales, but in order to get the music out there business is involved. I think he should listen to other people who do that sort of thing and he should just do what he does best. None of us can be good at everything and sometimes a little help can bring better results.