Forget Wendy and Lisa...It was all about Dr. Fink...

Zelaira said:

Only foolish fans would think that Prince still has it and that he doesn't need anyone.

He does need great musicians like Wendy & Lisa.

FrancerulzV99 said:

Although I agree he did some great synthesizer work I don't think he is that much of a genius. Have you listened to his solo stuff? I have, and I didn't like it at all...

Same goes for Wendy and Lisa. They are fine musicians but I don't think they were that much of an influence on Prince as some of you around here think.

I just wish Prince would go into the studio with the single aim to make the hardest hitting electrofunk album of all time. Doesn't matter which musicians he chooses to help him out, he doesn't really need that cuz he can play most instruments himself.

I wouldn't mind a good dance/hip hop producer creating the beats though, as he seems to have lost his drum machine programming abilities somewhere in the early nineties.

funkaholic1972 said:

But why? Why does he have to try and be something that he isn't anymore? Prince is not Madonna, trying to hold onto what she used to be, and being phony all along the way. Prince is Prince, plain and simple. He grew up. What 47 year old is dancing at the clubs to electrofunk? Come again? No one in their late 40's is, unless they just don't have a life and are trying to hold onto what they used to be...20 years ago.

I've said this before, but I'm more than happy to accept what Prince wants to be. He doesn't have to knock me on my ass anymore with out-of-this-world music. I'm more than happy to grow up with Prince. I'm 36, with a wife and kids. It's nice to be able to listen to Prince with my kids in the room.
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But why? Why does he have to try and be something that he isn't anymore? Prince is not Madonna, trying to hold onto what she used to be, and being phony all along the way. Prince is Prince, plain and simple. He grew up. What 47 year old is dancing at the clubs to electrofunk? Come again? No one in their late 40's is, unless they just don't have a life and are trying to hold onto what they used to be...20 years ago.

I've said this before, but I'm more than happy to accept what Prince wants to be. He doesn't have to knock me on my ass anymore with out-of-this-world music. I'm more than happy to grow up with Prince. I'm 36, with a wife and kids. It's nice to be able to listen to Prince with my kids in the room.


I couldn't have said it better myself.

I don't think Prince needs 2 call up any1 and do anything. He can do whatever he pleases, and he'll still b Prince and I'll still b interested in what he has 2 say. But I feel the same way about Wendy and Lisa, as well. They've all got their own thing, and they all seem 2 b happy, and that's great. If they worked on something 2gether, then I would b right there in line at the wrecka stow 2 get it. But I don't expect that.

But 2 those who say that nothing W&L have done on their own has mattered, I disagree completely. Girl Bros. is a better album than any of Prince's records since Lovesexy. In terms of consistency, songwriting, passion, and genre collapse, it resonates in the soul. Actually, I want 2 listen 2 "Let's Say" right now...

NouveauDance said:

WENDY & LISA WOULD LITERALLY BE A MAJIC POTION TO PRINCE'S MUSIC IF HE'D WAKE UP AND REALIZE HOW GOOD HIS MUSIC WOULD BE AGAIN IF HE'D WORK WITH THEM. ARTISTICALLY AND CRITICALLY, THEY'VE GOTTEN BETTER OVER THE YEARS AND HE HASN'T.

WENDY & LISA'S LAST CD: GIRL BROS. recieved excellent critical reviews.

TheBigBang said:

Don't get me wrong, I accept Prince the way he is and I still enjoy a few tracks of each new album. I just think some of the hardhitting funk got lost somewhere along the way. That's what I'd like him to do. I don't say he has to though...

Wowugotit said:

So!! Did it sell? Can Lisa and Wendy by themselves, sell out Madison Square Garden or The Staple Center? Outside of their "die-hard fans", who even remembers they were in The Revolution, much less know what they did after they left?

Don't get me wrong, I like the girls and loved what they did as part of The Revolution but touting them as Prince's musical saving grace, just doesn't fly.

I am very impressed over the level of fanatism over this two girls. They must be the most overrated couple ever aroound here.

They are good musican period.

Nothing more nothing less.

Bull said:

And your and kids don't think you are wierd?

Well, WENDY AND LISA were a loss, but Tony M. was leaving created a void in his career he's never been able to fill.

SexyBeautifulOne said:

SexyBeautifulOne said:

But, it's not even supposed to be about that, selling out arenas and whatnot. Being an artist has nothing to do with that.

I don't think he really needs Wendy and Lisa at this point, but I would be doing a happy dance if he ever did decide to do something with them again.

DavidEye said:

But he made his best music with them.

no need 2 beg my sweet

patience...

Cloudbuster said:

Wrong.

Cloudbuster said:

Not true. Part of his best music. Some of many fans' favourites stuff were made without them like Dirty Mind, 1999, SOTT and the absolute masterpiece TRC.
And even when they were in the band, some of my favourites tunes have no W&L involvment like When doves cry or Tambourine.

BeautifulFrance said:

Add the Gold Experience and Lovesexy to that list.
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BeautifulFrance said:

Ok, the period when Wendy & Lisa were around was when he made his most vibrant, colourful and adventurous music. Their influence spilled over into SOTT even if they weren't involved on the actual released tracks.

I'll give you Dirty Mind & 1999 as they're both great albums (and didn't W&L have some input in the latter?) but TRC is shit.

Cloudbuster said:

Wendy and Lisa influenced some songs on SOTT, but the majority of it was Prince harkening back to his minimalist sound, jazz musings and old school soul. Those are the biggest influences on SOTT, one only need to listen to Prince's heros to find that. SOTT is more early Prince, Miles, lite psychedelia, James Brown, Sly Stone, etc.
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DorothyParkerWasCool said:

I ain't disputing that, but they were still clearly an influence.
Even on Lovesexy I can hear some W&L isms.

Cloudbuster said:

But P-Funk, Coltrane and Miles were heavier influences on Lovesexy than anything...go pull those old albums and listen to them. Prince recorded Lovesexy in an off key, a trick George Clinton used.

DorothyParkerWasCool said:

I ain't disagreeing with you, man.

I'm just saying that W&L continued to influence some of P's music beyond their time with him, is all. It's just in the way he kinda painted pictures with sound, if that makes sense. It was pretty much over by the time of Batman.

Cloudbuster said:

We will just agree to disagree. W&L get too much credit because most people aren't familiar with Prince's influences. If you listen to them you will find his REAL inspiration.
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Cloudbuster said:

I rate TRC in the top 3 of Prince's albums. It is funny the number of music lovers I know who are just totally amazed when I make them discover TRC. Even more when I tell them Prince plys nearly everything on it.