With England out, I think I can give a fair sum up so far.

Watching the matches:

Uraguay SHOULD have won over Senegal.

Sweden SHOULD hav beaten Senegal.

Ireland SHOULD have beaten Spain.

USA SHOULD have beaten Germany.

Spain SHOULD have beaten Korea.


But lets face it, this is life.

I'm glad to see a host in there.

But it looks like Germany have an easy ride to the final, while Brazil, took the hard route and proved their class.

I don't mean to knock Germany, but, they shouldn't be there.

I think It should be a Spain-Brazil Final.

But hey, thats football!

I suppose class shows through...

Official top 5 best ever teams, based on the last 80 years.

1. Brazil
2. Germany
3. Italy
4. Argentina
5. England

With the last three knocked out, who could say Brazil and Germany don't deserve it.

Go Korea!!!

wow, you're upset. you got no reason though. so maybe turkey didn't use their oppotunities to score - but at least they created oppotunities which is something you can't say about senegal. senegal had a few individual tries at the turkish goal alright but turkey won as a TEAM and in the end there was not doubt that turkey and not senegal deserved to win this one. turkey totally ruled the midfield and created the danm match. so please stop that stupid whining.

if you have to whine so much then whine for spain. they actually have a reason to be bitter.

...said jalokin, the Danish geezer.[/quote]

well I am not upset, because I have no reason to be, I really don't care about sport let alone soccer but I did watch this game and thought Turkey played like garbage, funny that most sports websites on the net seems to agree with me that Senegal controlled the game and should have won.

turkey played as a team ? is that some kind of joke ?

the reason that they missed every goal was that everytime some Turkish guy went for the goal he was surrounded by about 5 senegal guys - where was his team then - where was his support then ? a team - what a joke, if they played as a team they could have won , they always set up the goals but never followed through with any 'teamwork' excepty for their last fluke goal

whine for spain - true they had two goals disallowed for bad judgements, but thats the game - get over it

...said FunkyStrange - an indirect Danish geezer.

TheChief said:

Hey give Roy Keane a break, he was the one responsible for getting us into the world cup in the first place

Anyway I think Ireland kicked ass in the tournament and did us all proud despite difficult circumstances. Unlike certain other teams that really underperformed (I won't name em). teams like Ireland, Japan, and the USA can go home with their heads held high knowing that they worked really hard and surprised all the critics.

I don't know why you are all whining for Spain. They really weren't that good. They had some good luck (in the penalty shootout against Ireland, despite us owning their asses for 120 minutes) and they had some bad luck against Korea but why the sour grapes?

If there were bad referees and bad referee decisions, it affected BOTH teams playing. Everyone was tarred with the same brush. And shouting and complaining at officials after a match is NEVER going to get them to change their mind suddenly. Spain should have showed some grace and dignity in their loss and just congratulated Korea - Korea had worked their asses off, played extremely well, had a great attitude towards the game, and the deserved to get through.

Spain and Italy need to learn a bit about sportsmanship in my opinion, and about being gracious in defeat.

I agree with you Ian, Korea worked really hard (in every match) but Spain did score two regular goals that weren't acknowledged.
I can understand their frustration.

SquirrelMeat said:

just wondered where you got your all time official list from ?

i wanted korea 2 beat spain and, and i hate the way the italians are moaning, because they were beaten fairly, but the spanish were robbed, thier golden goal was good, how did the linesman say the ball was out of play. i can understand how a ball that has crossed the line can be missed but to see all of the ball over the line when it didnt happen is ludicrous, and no one seems to be mentioning the penalty save, the korean keeper was about a yard and a half off his line when the ball was struck, clearly closing down the angle and making an easy save the ref was right there, it should have been retaken, ive never seen a goalie so far offhis line for a penalty, the refereeing at this tournament has been a disgrace, ronahldinio sent off, henry sent off costing france a place in the second round in my opinion fifa SORT IT OUT and what about the lack of a penalty when the us palyer punced the ball out of the area, bunch of arse, i would have loved korea 2 beat germany but now i think the tournament needs germany to win to save a major controversy.

lust said:[quote] and i hate the way the italians are moaning, because they were beaten fairly, but the spanish were robbed



do you really think that ?

bluebird said:[quote]

lust said:

which part of my statement are u referring too, anyway yes i think that. the italians were robbed against croatia, had two good goals dissalowed, but it was korea that put them out, totti was harshly sent off, but that was not a bizzare decision by the referee, just an unfortunate one and i dont think that tottis sending off caused korea to score the winner, no game is refereed 100% correctly, but the decisions against spain were nuts, this is my opinion, i dont claim to be a know all authority, so i would like to hear your point of view if u disagree.

bluebird said:

FIFA. On their web site and press release on Saturday.

lust said:[quote]

bluebird said:

the bit where you say italy were beaten fairly

italy had a perfectly good goal disallowed for offside in extra time, which would obviously have been the winner. (i think it was tommasi)

of spains two disallowed goals i think the first one was a correct decision, not that it makes any difference now of course.

im sort of glad spain suffered the same fate because it showed that any conspiracy was pro korea rather than anti italy, which makes me feel a little better - i dunno why.

put it all together tho' and im afraid korea's progress so far leaves a sour taste in my mouth

bluebird said:[quote]

lust said:

agreed.

but not a year goes by where an italian team doesnt say there was a conspiracy in the serie a handing the title to juventus or inter or whoever and recently the italian fa complained that the reason italian teams have not done well in the champions league recently was because there are no italians on the uefa commitee. part of being a good team is taking defeat graciously, i think the italians have soured there good name, in the last week.

lust said:

true, like spain, like portugal etc. no one seems to be taking defeat too well, wonder what the germans will say ?

bluebird said:

true but i think the italians have reacted worse than anyone, i mean if france would have beaten england with henry scoring the winner, he would not be sacked by arsenal or booed by arsenal fans.but then i suppose that might be a moot point what with the arsenal manager being french

lust said:

I think Spain and England took it on the chin. Fair enough, they didn't get through.

But Italy??? Its a sad day for football.

I think the USA has a good arguement against Germany, but they took it like men (or people who didn't give a fuck).

I say, "Go Turkey"! and Brazil!

calldapplwondery83 said:

But they didn't really ... the whistle was blown and the flag was up. In a case like if half the players stop playing because of the whistle and the other half go and score a goal ... no matter if the decision to raise the flag was wrong or not, you cannot allow the goal.