Most fans seem to be likeminded on a large number of songs. For example, most fans will agree that "When Doves Cry" and "Adore" are brilliant and "Jug Head" and "Arms of Orion" suck. However, I was wondering on what songs are widely debated.

I'll go ahead and state the obvious which is ofcourse just about every song on The Rainbow Children.

Got any more?

xpertluva said:

How about "My Name is Prince". Some people really love it wheras others think it is pandering hip hop crap with a 45 minute long rap solo from Tony M. I ain't gonna say what side I'm on.

Most fans seem to be likeminded on a large number of songs. For example, most fans will agree that "When Doves Cry" and "Adore" are brilliant and "Jug Head" and "Arms of Orion" suck. However, I was wondering on what songs are widely debated.

I'll go ahead and state the obvious which is ofcourse just about every song on The Rainbow Children.

Got any more?

xpertluva said:

Gett Off, Cream, My Name is Prince, Dance On, Positvity.....

I could go on.

I suppose I like Prince when he is writing his thoughts etc into songs.

I like songs like Life Can Be So Nice from Parade. etc..espeically the lines..

This morning there was joy in my heart 'cause I know that I loved u so
Scrambled eggs, are so boring, 4 u're all, all that I want 2 know

I just couldn't imagine your average popstar writing this!

I've always had a problem with songs like Gett Off because it feels too contrived and false.

I also feel this about Diamonds and Pearls.:

If I gave u diamonds and pearls
Would u be a happy boy or a girl
If I could I would give u the world
But all I can do is just offer u my love

The lyrics sound contrived and therefore false.

Especially if you compare them to Nothing Compare 2 U or Adore which seem refreshingly honest and open.

I also don't like the song The Most Beautiful Girl in the World. It just sounds like a cheesy chat-up line.

What also worries me is when fans on this site say they DON'T like songs like When Doves Cry ????? (How ??)

But can I also add I think maybe everyone likes Prince for different reasons. It might depend when you started listening to him, which album you bought first etc.

I think that if say Graffiti Bridge had een my first album then I might not have liked some of his earlier stuff or whatever.

His music has been so diverse I really now feel that maybe it's all good but to different people it means different things.

For me I liked him for his lyrics and the way that some of his music sounded like it was produced in his bedroom. Some of his early stuff sounded like it was done in one take with minimal produciton. ie Dirty Mind.

I realise that other people may like him for a whole heap of different reasons depending on what albums/songs you have listened to and what your tastes in music are.


HEY .... I HOPE THIS ADDS TO THE DEBATE...!!!
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xpertluva said:

Gett Off, Cream, My Name is Prince, Dance On, Positvity.....

I could go on.




I suppose I like Prince when he is writing his thoughts etc into songs.

I like songs like Life Can Be So Nice from Parade. etc..espeically the lines..

This morning there was joy in my heart 'cause I know that I loved u so
Scrambled eggs, are so boring, 4 u're all, all that I want 2 know

I just couldn't imagine your average popstar writing this!

I've always had a problem with songs like Gett Off because it feels too contrived and false.

I also feel this about Diamonds and Pearls.:

If I gave u diamonds and pearls
Would u be a happy boy or a girl
If I could I would give u the world
But all I can do is just offer u my love

The lyrics sound contrived and therefore false.

Especially if you compare them to Nothing Compare 2 U or Adore which seem refreshingly honest and open.

I also don't like the song The Most Beautiful Girl in the World. It just sounds like a cheesy chat-up line.

What also worries me is when fans on this site say they DON'T like songs like When Doves Cry ????? (How ??)

But can I also add I think maybe everyone likes Prince for different reasons. It might depend when you started listening to him, which album you bought first etc.

I think that if say Graffiti Bridge had een my first album then I might not have liked some of his earlier stuff or whatever.

His music has been so diverse I really now feel that maybe it's all good but to different people it means different things.

For me I liked him for his lyrics and the way that some of his music sounded like it was produced in his bedroom. Some of his early stuff sounded like it was done in one take with minimal produciton. ie Dirty Mind.

I realise that other people may like him for a whole heap of different reasons depending on what albums/songs you have listened to and what your tastes in music are.


HEY .... I HOPE THIS ADDS TO THE DEBATE...!!!
[Edited 12/3/05 12:50pm]
[Edited 12/3/05 12:51pm]
[Edited 12/3/05 13:00pm]

Another one...The Morning Papers. Some people think it's a nice rocking love song while others think it's a little icky and hints of Prince digging way too much on jailbait. I remain neutral.

I've never liked "Adore" one little bit and have been a fan since 1983. The problem I have with the song (and I always get slapped down for saying this) is that to me it sounds completely plastic and soul-less, and is also too "ordinary" in that it sounds like every other soul ballad recorded around the time. It does nothing for me whatsoever and I've tried so hard to like it.

I've never liked "Adore" one little bit and have been a fan since 1983. The problem I have with the song (and I always get slapped down for saying this) is that to me it sounds completely plastic and soul-less, and is also too "ordinary" in that it sounds like every other soul ballad recorded around the time. It does nothing for me whatsoever and I've tried so hard to like it.

I say this meaning no disrespect but...ANYBODY WHO DOES NOT THINK ADORE IS BRILLIANT IS AN IDIOT! AND A TRAITOR! AND PROBABLY A COMMUNIST!




Okay, had to get that off my chest...

GottaLetitgo said:

Amen, Gotta.....don't forget a "member of the Taliban too"!!!! LOL. If you don't like Adore, ask yourself the serious question....have I ever been in love and tried to put it in words? If you haven't, then I would say you don't UNDERSTAND Adore. To each his own, but Adore is the BEST ballad ever written!!!! Hands Down.

NPGman said:

Yep I agree. Adore is the song written at the peak of falling in love.

When lovejust doesn't seem a big enough word to describe it.

That is why the song is sooo over blown.

Prince is searching for descriptions.

But every line in it is real.

pepper7 said:

We can't all like the same thing. Just because somebody doesn't like what you do doesn't make them a communist, member of the taliban, evil, the antichrist... It makes them human.

Nasalhair said:

Yeah I think they were just trying to make the point that Adore is like not liking When Doves Cry because it's so full of emotion and has some deep thoughts and feelings in it.

I know what you mean though because not everyone is going to like the same thing.

All my dreams seperates fans.

pepper7 said:

But that's something in itself - I love "When Doves Cry" because when I first heard it it sounded like nothing else I'd ever heard before, and I still remember that very moment even now, where I was and what I was doing. When I first heard "Adore" my immediate reaction was "ugh". Why? Because it sounded so derivative of everything else that was around at the time, so like every other soul balladeer, and also so out of place on "SOTT" as whereas the rest of the album was very raw and under-produced this was the complete opposite. Saccharine soul music has never done a thing for me, and "I'm the best lover in the world, me" songs like "Adore" (and "Do Me Baby", "International Lover", vast chunks of "Emancipation", the list goes on...) leave me completely cold because they're just so ordinary and boring!

And I just know I'm going to get flamed now, but what the hell - it's how I feel, and if my opinion differs to yours then so what - it's my opinion.

"Batdance" is another controversial song. Nowadays, it gets criticized for being a collection of loops or samples. But when it was released, it was unlike anything I'd ever heard. The part where the song switches ("Stop the presses, who is that?") is so freaking cool. It sounds like the beats are being played sideways to me.