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Where's Zelaira?? 
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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luv4u said: Where's Zelaira??
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: luv4u said: Where's Zelaira??
Ohh purple joy oh purple bliss oh purple rapture! REAL MUSIC by REAL MUSICIANS - Prince "I kind of wish there was a reason for Prince to make the site crash more" ~~ Ben |
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Handclapsfingasnapz said: luv4u said: Where's Zelaira??
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pasquerto said: Hey guys I'm writing a paper on how prince's overt sexuality effected the music industry and I would really like some input. I'm continually amazed at how much more some of you know than I do! I would really like to know (from someone who was around) what was it like when Prince first came on the music scene? What did people say/think and what was his first controversial single out? Also I would like to know more about the whole Tipper and the parental advisory sticker ordeal. And just your personal thougts and ideas.....anything would help!
Will you be listing the Org as one of your sources of information? And what percentage of your mark are we entitled to? 
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Just a personal observation regarding the Parental Advisory label....
Purple Rain was the very first album I bought with my own money. I was 14. I was also raised in a religious household. My mom didn't make an issue with me buying the album but I do remember reading a book by a Christian author who listed all kinds of artists to be aware of because of lyrical content or stuff like backward masking where a hidden message would be included. Prince's "Darling Nikki" was included in this book. The book warned about the graphic nature of the song and I really laughed because here this author was yelling like Chicken Little about the damaging nature of the lyrics on young minds and really....at 14, I got it. Was the song graphic lyrically? Yes. But the clip at the end of the song really just dispells all the fears about the song itself. I remember wanting to know what the backward message said so I taped it and then took the tape apart, reversed the tape and put the cassette back together and heard the most glorious message: Hello....How R U? I'm fine.....cuz I know that the lord is coming soon Coming, coming soon..... And really that is what I focused on and not the nasty lyrics of Darling Nikki. It's as if Prince knew he was committing a sin of some sort and countered that with a hymnal to the lord. Reinforcing the themes of good/evil god/sex sin/salvation which have always been found in his music  2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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My son (10) flipped when I told him that PR was the REASON that
CDs have Parental stickers on them today. He's upset because I won't let him buy the unedited versions of CD's, and blames Prince for it. Thanks for the laughs, arguments and overall enjoyment for the last umpteen years. It's time for me to retire from Prince.org and engage in the real world...lol. Above all, I appreciated the talent Prince. You were one of a kind. | |
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luv4u said: Where's Zelaira??
Bump that - Where's Krystal666? Educate, tolerate, negotiate, communicate
litigate, graduate, appreciate, separate interrogate, violate, fluctuate, perpetrate masturbate, stimulate, stimulate, stimulate... | |
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Purple Rain (the album) did get slammed for the sexual lyrics of Darling Nikki and Erotic City and it also got slammed for the lyrics of I Would Die 4 U b'cuz people were saying that Prince thinks he's Jesus. They called him devil worshipper & people were burning his CDs, it was just crazy. I think his earlier albums were more sexual than PR was/is. (well minus Erotic City which was only a B-side). Prince was & still 2 this day considered a freak or should I say freaky but has a spiritual side (which we're seeing more of these days) but back then his spiritual side was overshadowed by his funkier sexual side.  |
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Aftershock said: luv4u said: Where's Zelaira??
Bump that - Where's Krystal666? Bump that! Where's Klhk!!! Booty straws for everyone!!! 2010: Healing the Wounds of the Past.... http://prince.org/msg/8/325740 | |
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SupaFunkyOrgangrinderSexy said: Aftershock said: Bump that - Where's Krystal666? Bump that! Where's Klhk!!! Booty straws for everyone!!!   Educate, tolerate, negotiate, communicate
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Aftershock said: luv4u said: Where's Zelaira??
Bump that - Where's Krystal666? Dayum!
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All Things Considered, January 11, 2005 Twenty years ago, Tipper Gore bought a Prince album for her 11-year-old daughter and was astonished at the explicit lyrics they heard when they played it. That incident prompted Gore, wife of then Sen. Al Gore, to go before Congress to urge warning labels for records marketed to children. Since then, the national debate has extended to content on television, video games and the Internet. Gore recalls that she got mad when she tried to return Prince's Purple Rain to the store where she bought it. The retailer wouldn't take the record back because it had been opened and played. Gore says she surveyed the music landscape and found everything from "bubblegum" pop to heavy metal to songs about violence against women and killing police officers. That's when she helped form the Parents' Music Resource Center, which took the issue up with the recording industry and Congress. Gore, whose 1985 testimony before a Senate panel was countered by musicians Frank Zappa and Dee Snyder of the group Twisted Sister, says she wasn't out to censor the objectionable material. "I'm a strong believer in the First Amendment," she says. Instead, Gore continues to advocate "consumer information in the marketplace." But the final answer rests in the home, she says. "Everybody has to make those decisions according to their own family values and how they want to teach their children," Gore tells NPR's Robert Siegel. Following is the introduction to Raising PG Kids in an X-Rated Society, written in 1987 by Tipper Gore. Book Excerpt: 'Raising PG Kids in an X-Rated Society' Like many parents of my generation, I grew up listening to rock music and loving it, watching television and being entertained by it. I still enjoy both. But something has happened since the days of "Twist and Shout" and "I Love Lucy." This is a book about the kinds of violent and explicit messages our children are receiving through the media and what we as parents can do about it. I decided to get involved because I began to see the kinds of record lyrics that my children were being exposed to. It shocked me and made me angry. I started looking deeper into the problem, and became even more concerned. A small but immensely successful minority of performers have pioneered the "porn rock" phenomenon. A Judas Priest song about oral sex at gunpoint sold two million copies. So did Mötley Crüe's album Shout at the Devil, with lyrics like: "Not a woman, but a whore/I can taste the hate/Well, now I'm killing you/Watch your face turning blue." Sheena Easton's "Sugar Walls," about female sexual arousal, was an even bigger hit on Top 40 radio stations. And Prince peddled more than ten million copies of Purple Rain, which included a song about a young girl masturbating in a hotel lobby. This kind of rock music is only part of an escalating trend toward the use of more explicit sex and graphic violence in entertainment industry offerings, from movies and videos to jeans and perfume ads. Music is the most unexpected medium, and rock music has shown perhaps the least willingness to exercise self-restraint. But in virtually every medium, the communications industry offers increasingly explicit images of sex and violence to younger and younger children. In the course of my work, I've encountered a degree of callousness toward children that I never imagined existed. No one asks what is in the product or its effect on kids, only how well it will sell. The dilemma for society is how to preserve personal and family values in a nation of diverse tastes. Tensions exist in any free society. But the freedom we enjoy rests on a foundation of individual liberty and shared moral values. Even as the shifting structure of the family and other social changes disrupt old patterns, we must reassert our values through individual and community action. People of all political persuasions --conservatives, moderates, and liberals alike -- need to dedicate themselves once again to preserving the moral foundation of our society. Censorship is not the answer. In the long run, our only hope is for more information and awareness, so that citizens and communities can fight back against market exploitation and find practical means for restoring individual choice and control. As parents and as consumers, we have the right and the power to pressure the entertainment industry to respond to our needs. Americans, after all, should insist that every corporate giant -- whether it produces chemicals or records -- accept responsibility for what it produces. Let me apologize in advance for the profane language and disturbing images that appear throughout this book. These examples are used to expose the material for what it is. I believe that the current excesses could not and would not have developed if more people had been aware of them. Unfortunately, many parents remain unaware of the indecent liberties some entertainers take with their children. Perhaps full disclosure will stir parents to try to stop the wholesale exploitation of American youth. More than anything else, I want this book to be a call for American parents. I want to offer them the very real hope that we can reassert some control over the cultural environment in which our children are raised. From Raising PG Kids in an X-Rated Society Copyright © 1987 by Mary Elizabeth Gore. Courtesy: hushyourmouth.com Parental advisory warning labels steeped in controversy By DARRICK LEE - Staff Writer A fan of the radio hits "Let’s Go Crazy" and "When Doves Cry," Tipper Gore purchased Prince’s 1984 blockbuster album, "Purple Rain," for her then 12-year-old daughter. To Gore’s surprise, the rest of the album was not as squeaky clean as the hits she had heard on the radio. She was particularly outraged by the song "Darling Nikki," in which Prince sings some racy lyrics. Feeling misled as a consumer, Gore felt the time had come to promote awareness of inappropriate lyrics to parents. In May 1985, the Parent’s Music Resource Center, a non-profit, tax-exempt organization, was born. Composed of several wives of senators, congressmen, cabinet officials and notable businessman, the PMRC had support from 700 Club minister Pat Robertson and television host Sheila Walsh. Sharing unofficial PMRC spokesperson duties alongside Gore was Susan Baker, wife of Secretary of Treasury, James A. Baker III. Baker, who overheard her 7-year-old daughter singing along to Madonna’s "Like A Virgin," was eager to lend a hand to the up-and-coming organization. Although the PMRC’s goal was to "educate and inform," the group found itself fighting off accusations of promoting censorship. "Pornography sold to children is illegal," said Baker. "Enforcing that is not censorship. It is simply the act of a responsible society that recognizes that some material made for adults is not appropriate for children." In the 1957 case Roth vs. United States, obscenity was defined as "a speech that is utterly without redeeming social importance." The 1973 case Miller vs. California modified the definition of obscenity to material "lacking serious literary, artistic, political or scientific value." These definitions were the grounds in which the PMRC used to define "obscene" music. According to music journalist Eric Nuzum, the controversy surrounding lyrical content of music started long before the PMRC. Giusseppe Verdi’s 19th-century opera, "La Traviata," was banned across Europe for the lyric, "He took the desired prize in the arms of love." At the turn of the century, the presence of music censorship increased with jazz and blues growing in popularity. Count Basie and Duke Ellington were early jazz pioneers whose music was referred to as "jungle" and "devil’s music." The attacks were in full swing after white audiences – particularly white youth – became attracted to "black music." In the early 50s, Billie Holiday’s "Love For Sale" was banned from radio stations across the country for its prostitution theme. Billboard and Variety trade magazines launched efforts to ban lyrics in rhythm and blues songs. Members of the North Alabama White Citizens Council collectively agreed rock ’n’ roll was part of a plot by the NAACP to mongrelize America. In the 60s, Texas radio stations banned Bob Dylan, citing that it was too difficult to understand his lyrics. Station management feared his songs may have contained offensive messages. However, radio stations continued to play records of other artists covering Dylan’s material. The Curtis Knight single "How Would You Feel" featuring Jimi Hendrix was also given little airplay at the time because of the song’s message of injustice against blacks in America. During the 70s, music underwent drastic changes, and attempts to censor music continued to thrive. The Rev. Jesse Jackson’s PUSH organization launched a campaign against disco music, insisting the music promoted promiscuity and drug use. Unable to build the momentum and attain the media attention he needed, however, Jackson abandoned his effort. In the early 80s, Mercury Records refused to release Frank Zappa’s "I Don’t Wanna Get Drafted" for fear it would create a backlash against selective service. Zappa, John Denver and Dee Snider of the group Twisted Sister were all in attendance at the 1985 Senate hearing to investigate the lyrical content of popular music. Also in attendance were representatives from the Recording Industry Association of America. Organized under the pressures of the PMRC, the hearing became a media field day. Sens. Trible, Hollings and Gore all discussed ways to protect children from "outrageous filth," as Sen. Hollings stated. Reciting the First Amendment, Zappa took the stand to represent musicians. He referred to the requests of the PMRC as "treating dandruff by decapitation," and stated that the PMRC’s ideas were "whipped like an instant pudding by the wives of Big Brother." Originally, the PMRC proposed that record companies rate records "V" for violence, "X" for sex, "D/A" for drugs and alcohol and "O" for occult. However, by the time of the hearing, Tipper Gore testified that the PMRC was no longer interested in a rating system but wanted record companies to voluntarily label offensive albums. Complying with the PMRC, all of the major label record companies embraced the new labeling system. Out of 7,500 albums released between 1986 and 1989, 49 displayed some type of warning message. By 1990, the black-and-white "Parental Advisory: Explicit Lyrics" label had become the industry standard. 2 Live Crew’s "Nasty As They Wanna Be" was one of the first albums to bear the warning sticker. Best known for its hit "Me So Horny," 2 Live Crew’s "Nasty" also became the first album to be declared legally obscene. Artists ranging from Sinead O’Connor to Motley Crue spoke in defense of the rappers and their right to free speech. In 1991, Wal-Mart, the world’s largest music retailer, announced it would not carry CDs with the PMRC-approved "Parental Advisory: Explicit Lyrics" label. As a result, the record industry panicked and quickly issued edited versions of CDs to Wal-Mart stores nationwide. Rap artists were affected most by Wal-Mart’s decision. Instead of hearing profanity on a rap album, the listener would instead hear brief moments of silence in which the record company had voluntarily edited the songs. According to Nuzum, attacks against black music today are similar to the ones of decades ago, "The music industry’s self-regulation of lyrics through the parental-advisory warning label is drawing a not-so-fine line between black and white," he said. "Most of today’s CDs that carry the parental-advisory label are from African-American and hip-hop artists. "It’s never been proven that music causes people to do bad things. Outside of people who already had problems to begin with, there are no examples of a cause-and-effect relationship." Since the PMRC and the RIAA’s agreement to label explicit CDs, a wide array of artists including Madonna, Lil’ Kim, Tupac, Prince, TLC and Marilyn Manson have had the sticker appear on the cover of their CDs. The most controversial and arguably most successful artist to emerge within the 21st century is Eminem. A Detroit native and the music industry’s first critically acclaimed white rapper, Eminem has brought his unique style to an audience who might have otherwise never listened to rap music. Consequently, according to Billboard.com, Eminem’s CD "The Marshall Mathers LP" has become the best-selling rap CD of all time. Despite a warning label on Eminem’s CD cover, teen-age consumers make up Eminem’s core audience. Since most retail stores pay little attention to the label it, has become increasingly easy for anyone of any age to purchase offensive CDs. In 2003, the controversial rapper shares the same warning label as pop artists Janet Jackson, TLC and Ashanti. This raises the question: If artists’ lyrical content is completely different, why do all "offensive" CDs share the same label? If the RIAA has no say in what record stores sell to minors, the next step is to evaluate the sticker itself. Now that the PMRC’s glory days are over, the RIAA should develop different types of warning labels to better assist parents in determining what is appropriate for their children. For example, a Janet Jackson album should be labeled as sexually explicit. A Marilyn Manson CD should be noted as having references to suicide and violence. In retrospect, the PMRC was a classic example of people coming together for a common cause but with different agendas. Without the input of the 700 Club and other religious-based groups, the PMRC’s mission of a censorship-free campaign to protect children could have been effective. But, nowadays, 10-year-olds purchase Eminem CDs without hassle, making the PMRC’s efforts during the 1980s a waste of time. If prince.org were to be made idiot proof, someone would just invent a better idiot. | |
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Aftershock said: luv4u said: Where's Zelaira??
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Well from a personal observation when I first started getting into Prince I was pretty young so I didn't understand everything about sex yet. Watching Prince and reading his lyrics only made me more curious. My dad used to get very upset when I listened to Prince. He thought he was vulgar and sleezy. But back then you didn't have too many pop stars simulating cum shooting out of their guitars so I think that kinda intrigued people...expecialy girls that thought he was sexy like me. My mother was a big Prince fan so we used to listen to his songs alot and watch his videos and movies together and I have to admit there were times I would start blushing and turing beat red when my mom and I would watch Prince. Like that Wendy simulating oral sex on Prince, during that Revolution live in Syrecuse when he made this guesture of oral sex on a woman you know when you put your tounge between your fingers, when Jill Jones took off her panties in front of Prince during Graffiti Bridge. I was raised a sweet, little catholic girl so all this stuff was really kinda shocking! Back when I was raised sex in the media was there but you didn't see it as often and Prince really made you use your mind and figure out the sexual inuendo and I thought there was great humor in it. Hope this helped.  | |
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What did people think? They thought he was a FREAK. They thought Gay and they thought Sacriligious with the CONTROVERSY poster. Prince in the shower next to a CRUCIFIX. Some of my friends asked me if he was on DRUGS. I lived next to Religious WEIRDOS who everytime I played Purple Rain Called the Police or put on the OUR FATHER/HAIL MARY Tapes BLASTING over my MUSIC. IRAQ People... Prince told me once WEAR HEADPHONEs..I NEVER Cared and actually More PROTESTANT . He had Tipper Gore go Crazy with her WARNINg Label Parents thing over Darlin Nikki bout MASTURBATION.... She must Shit Bricks Over 50Centand Bitches and Hoes Terminology which is INSANE...LOL....I think it's Funny don't the MONDALES come from MINNESOTA? Like she made me NOT Wanna vvote for GORE but he woulda Probably been Better than BUSH. Prince Totally Brought SEx to The Music Industry. He is like the GREATEST PORNO MUSICIAn AROUND..He could Sountrack Many Films. He has Sung about so many TABOO Subjects. So Much Sex. It is really HARD for ANYONE to EVER see this MAN as a PURITAN...Like VANITY ONCE said..He's FAR FROM GAY...She meant an ANIMAL with FEROCIOUS SEXUAL APPETITES.... This is Just like WOW. OH SMACK....And an IMAGINATION.... I don't know if he EXPERIENCED ALL HE SINGS about or If it's from MOVIES... But he has ALWAYS Had a DIRTY MIND . Lol. He has Driven his Female Fans into Orgasmic Frenzies for Damn Sake. The SCREAMINg is Uncontrollable. I swear to GOD I would be Embarassed cause I would be Wet through my Dress. And I could Feel Twitching. All this just from watching him play. Intensity ..I would just keep gasping... It's really Frenzy. I get all Freakin Worked UP... My Thighs at Paisley Park were Thunderous....Oh LORD..He SENDS ME.... | |
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I've always been a Wild Girl,but I swear he Made me MORE Wild and I think my STIFFNESS and ANAL RETENTIVE CONTROL FREAK BEHAVIOR well ONLY HE Get's me to LOSE it. Maybe that is Why I LOVE HIM so. I Absolutely Lose it... Where he is CONCERNED. | |
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Zelaira said: What did people think? They thought he was a FREAK. They thought Gay and they thought Sacriligious with the CONTROVERSY poster. Prince in the shower next to a CRUCIFIX. Some of my friends asked me if he was on DRUGS. I lived next to Religious WEIRDOS who everytime I played Purple Rain Called the Police or put on the OUR FATHER/HAIL MARY Tapes BLASTING over my MUSIC. IRAQ People... Prince told me once WEAR HEADPHONEs..I NEVER Cared and actually More PROTESTANT . He had Tipper Gore go Crazy with her WARNINg Label Parents thing over Darlin Nikki bout MASTURBATION.... She must Shit Bricks Over 50Centand Bitches and Hoes Terminology which is INSANE...LOL....I think it's Funny don't the MONDALES come from MINNESOTA? Like she made me NOT Wanna vvote for GORE but he woulda Probably been Better than BUSH. Prince Totally Brought SEx to The Music Industry. He is like the GREATEST PORNO MUSICIAn AROUND..He could Sountrack Many Films. He has Sung about so many TABOO Subjects. So Much Sex. It is really HARD for ANYONE to EVER see this MAN as a PURITAN...Like VANITY ONCE said..He's FAR FROM GAY...She meant an ANIMAL with FEROCIOUS SEXUAL APPETITES.... This is Just like WOW. OH SMACK....And an IMAGINATION.... I don't know if he EXPERIENCED ALL HE SINGS about or If it's from MOVIES... But he has ALWAYS Had a DIRTY MIND . Lol. He has Driven his Female Fans into Orgasmic Frenzies for Damn Sake. The SCREAMINg is Uncontrollable. I swear to GOD I would be Embarassed cause I would be Wet through my Dress. And I could Feel Twitching. All this just from watching him play. Intensity ..I would just keep gasping... It's really Frenzy. I get all Freakin Worked UP... My Thighs at Paisley Park were Thunderous....Oh LORD..He SENDS ME....
I've always been a Wild Girl,but I swear he Made me MORE Wild and I think my STIFFNESS and ANAL RETENTIVE CONTROL FREAK BEHAVIOR well ONLY HE Get's me to LOSE it. Maybe that is Why I LOVE HIM so. I Absolutely Lose it... Where he is CONCERNED. There you go, pasquerto: Just include Zel's witness trestimony verbatim in your paper and you've got yourself an *A* grade distinction. . [Edited 11/30/05 23:35pm] ALT+PLS+RTN: Pure as a pane of ice. It's a gift. |
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Zelaira said:
I swear to GOD I would be Embarassed cause I would be Wet through my Dress. And I could Feel Twitching. All this just from watching him play. Intensity ..I would just keep gasping... It's really Frenzy. I get all Freakin Worked UP... My Thighs at Paisley Park were Thunderous....Oh LORD..He SENDS ME.... Andy is a four letter word. | |
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