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Thread started 11/18/05 11:47am

luv4all7

Casette vs. CD

Okay, it's no secret that most people dig Prince"s "older" stuff. And a previous post got me thinking about how back in the day, it seemed easier to listen to an album all the way through w/out skipping songs. Now when you buy a full CD you barely listen to half of the material.

So could all of this be due to the ease of pressing a button to the next tune rather than having to sit and fast forward? Is it just that maybe FULL albums grew on us cuz we had NO CHOICE but to listen to the whole thing, over and over to get to the GOOD STUFF? Essentially TRICKING us into loving the WHOLE thing.

Am I on to something here? Did technology ruin music for us? DID video kill the radio star?
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Reply #1 posted 11/18/05 11:50am

PurrfectKitty

No, I think technology made it easier for us to not settle for tracks that were BS just because we were to lazy to skip to the next smile
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Reply #2 posted 11/18/05 11:56am

Anxiety

when tapes were popular, i used to buy new P albums on tape AND cd, because even though i could just make tapes from my CDs, i wanted to have a professionally recorded cassette version for my walkman. nuts
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Reply #3 posted 11/18/05 11:58am

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Anxiety said:

when tapes were popular, i used to buy new P albums on tape AND cd, because even though i could just make tapes from my CDs, i wanted to have a professionally recorded cassette version for my walkman. nuts

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Reply #4 posted 11/18/05 11:59am

luv4all7

Anxiety said:

when tapes were popular, i used to buy new P albums on tape AND cd, because even though i could just make tapes from my CDs, i wanted to have a professionally recorded cassette version for my walkman. nuts


Hmm, I just bought the cassette cuz I was to cheap to buy the CD!
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Reply #5 posted 11/18/05 12:01pm

luv4all7

IMHO cassettes are better anyway, they don't skip, and they have a longer life!
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Reply #6 posted 11/18/05 12:07pm

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luv4all7 said:

IMHO cassettes are better anyway, they don't skip, and they have a longer life!

wacky hardly! lol
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Reply #7 posted 11/18/05 12:17pm

luv4all7

soulyacolia said:

luv4all7 said:

IMHO cassettes are better anyway, they don't skip, and they have a longer life!

wacky hardly! lol

That's just my preference. smile
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Reply #8 posted 11/18/05 12:22pm

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Well tapes arent even being made anymore. And thats cause of the crap quality!
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Reply #9 posted 11/18/05 12:28pm

mymocha

I had a Fast Foward Button on my Tape Players. smile
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Reply #10 posted 11/19/05 1:27am

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mymocha said:

I had a Fast Foward Button on my Tape Players. smile


Remember the "music search" feature, or whatever it was called? Would fast forward to the next significant gap in the sound (usually the dead space between songs), so it was a prelude to the CD "skip" button. Except it was hardly foolproof: it would often stop on short quiet moments during songs...and of course if there were no gaps in the sound between songs (ala Lovesexy), it wouldn't work at all!

I guess Prince didn't like the skipping tracks bit either, look what he did with the original CD release of Lovesexy (at least in the U.S.), he made it all one track!
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Reply #11 posted 11/19/05 3:38am

MikeMatronik

I grew on cassette...guess that influence my habit of listening 2 an album from start 2 finish!

I sure loved my cranberries and alanis tapes! cool
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Reply #12 posted 11/19/05 6:19am

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I think the main issue around CDs for a lot of artists is that they now feel that the full 80 minutes must be utilised and you therefore get a lot more filler than with a 9 or 10 track album lasting 40 minutes.

You have to pad that extra 40 minutes with something and most artists choose to fill it with crap that should have been left at the demo stage!
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Reply #13 posted 11/19/05 6:24am

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I have all of Prince's 80's output on cassette and trust me, they sound better than the cd's. smile
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Reply #14 posted 11/19/05 7:15am

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I never bought cassettes until vinyl went out of style. The only reason I bought them then, is because CD players were too expensive back in the day. I saw no reason to buy a cassette when I could record the vinyl onto one myself. Also, tapes wear out over a period of time. I have tons of of old cassettes that sound muffled and on some of them, the sound drops and comes back up. All my old vinyl is as good as new.

We never were forced to listen to an entire album all the way through. The reason for the track buttons on CD players is not to correct the disadvantages of cassettes such as fast forwarding and rewinding. The track buttons are there to recreate the convenience of vinyl. On vinyl, you simply picked the needle up and placed it wherever you wanted it. There was no fast forwarding or rewinding.
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Reply #15 posted 11/19/05 7:34am

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No, I think technology made it easier for us to not settle for tracks that were BS just because we were to lazy to skip to the next smile


There's your answer right there! Regarding trickinng us into listening to the whole album, what about LoveSexy? You couldn't skip ahead with that cd and I think it hurt the sales. I believe that to be one reason why Ana Stesia seldom gets the credit it deserves...
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Reply #16 posted 11/19/05 8:24am

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BlurredEye said:

I think the main issue around CDs for a lot of artists is that they now feel that the full 80 minutes must be utilised and you therefore get a lot more filler than with a 9 or 10 track album lasting 40 minutes.

You have to pad that extra 40 minutes with something and most artists choose to fill it with crap that should have been left at the demo stage!


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Reply #17 posted 11/19/05 8:43am

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luv4all7 said:

IMHO cassettes are better anyway, they don't skip, and they have a longer life!


they get warn out eventually
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Reply #18 posted 11/19/05 1:00pm

CinisterCee

Cassettes are so unpopular now though I found it's now a good option to hear hard to find albums because everyone sold 'em to used stores.

I like that cassettes never skip. I started buying music in the 80s so I also learned to be patient and just listen to entire albums at a young age.

People who grew up on needle-dropping vinyl or track-skipping CDs don't have the same patience.

Although sometimes cassettes wear out sooner than they should and start doing that wavering/phasing/muffle.
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Reply #19 posted 11/19/05 3:00pm

vainandy

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CinisterCee said:

I like that cassettes never skip. I started buying music in the 80s so I also learned to be patient and just listen to entire albums at a young age.


Not me. In the few years when records were fading out and I didn't have a CD player yet, I used to wear my fast forward and rewind buttons out. I even broke a few in the process. lol

Now, if you want to talk about patience, you really have to have patience with 8 Track tapes. The only 8 Track players with fast forward buttons were the really expensive ones. Other than that, you had to listen to it all the way through, for at least one of the four programs anyway. That's why I bought very few of them back in the day.
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Reply #20 posted 11/19/05 3:14pm

MrsJimmyFallon

i grew up on vinyl and cassettes. i love them for what they represent to me. i still have a huge box of old cassettes and i love going through them from time to time.

CDs are a wonderful invention of course, and are superior in many ways to vinyl and cassette, but there's something less "warm" about them to me than vinyl/cassettes, and i also miss the packaging that would come with vinyl, especially.

the one thing i did hate about cassettes was how that little square of felt or whatever that is that's glued right up on top (underneath where the tape itself runs across the open top of the cassette) would sometimes come unglued and then the tape was f*ed for good if you couldn't glue it back on. at least CDs dont do that. smile
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Reply #21 posted 11/19/05 3:24pm

Universaluv

Back in the day it was all about vinyl. Even then I had the patience to listen to the albums all the way through the first few times, just to get a feel for them.
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Reply #22 posted 11/19/05 5:36pm

4nowneway

all my old white cassetes sound like shit now, I still listen to cds all the way through I dont skip tracks
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Reply #23 posted 11/20/05 9:51am

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luv4all7 said:

Okay, it's no secret that most people dig Prince"s "older" stuff. And a previous post got me thinking about how back in the day, it seemed easier to listen to an album all the way through w/out skipping songs. Now when you buy a full CD you barely listen to half of the material.

So could all of this be due to the ease of pressing a button to the next tune rather than having to sit and fast forward? Is it just that maybe FULL albums grew on us cuz we had NO CHOICE but to listen to the whole thing, over and over to get to the GOOD STUFF? Essentially TRICKING us into loving the WHOLE thing.

Am I on to something here? Did technology ruin music for us? DID video kill the radio star?



You crackhead why did you uyse cassettes? You shouldve said records (vinyl as some posers like to say). I mean if you're talking about listening to music with out the skip button, records are the ultimate format as far as sound is concerned. Why the hell would you use an inferior sounding format like cassettes? What the hell is wrong with you?
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Reply #24 posted 11/20/05 6:44pm

brothaluv

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You crackhead why did you uyse cassettes? You shouldve said records (vinyl as some posers like to say). I mean if you're talking about listening to music with out the skip button, records are the ultimate format as far as sound is concerned. Why the hell would you use an inferior sounding format like cassettes? What the hell is wrong with you?



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Reply #25 posted 11/20/05 7:32pm

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PurrfectKitty said:

No, I think technology made it easier for us to not settle for tracks that were BS just because we were to lazy to skip to the next smile


I should whack you upside your head with a jelly bean for sayin' that sh*t! Don't you mofo's get it? Prince albums aren't good unless you listen to them ALL THE BLOODY WAY THROUGH!!!!!
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Reply #26 posted 11/20/05 7:34pm

poetbear68

vainandy said:

I never bought cassettes until vinyl went out of style. The only reason I bought them then, is because CD players were too expensive back in the day. I saw no reason to buy a cassette when I could record the vinyl onto one myself. Also, tapes wear out over a period of time. I have tons of of old cassettes that sound muffled and on some of them, the sound drops and comes back up. All my old vinyl is as good as new.

We never were forced to listen to an entire album all the way through. The reason for the track buttons on CD players is not to correct the disadvantages of cassettes such as fast forwarding and rewinding. The track buttons are there to recreate the convenience of vinyl. On vinyl, you simply picked the needle up and placed it wherever you wanted it. There was no fast forwarding or rewinding.


And there you have it. You sound like someone who has a clue about music formats.
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Reply #27 posted 11/20/05 7:49pm

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poetbear68 said:

vainandy said:

I never bought cassettes until vinyl went out of style. The only reason I bought them then, is because CD players were too expensive back in the day. I saw no reason to buy a cassette when I could record the vinyl onto one myself. Also, tapes wear out over a period of time. I have tons of of old cassettes that sound muffled and on some of them, the sound drops and comes back up. All my old vinyl is as good as new.

We never were forced to listen to an entire album all the way through. The reason for the track buttons on CD players is not to correct the disadvantages of cassettes such as fast forwarding and rewinding. The track buttons are there to recreate the convenience of vinyl. On vinyl, you simply picked the needle up and placed it wherever you wanted it. There was no fast forwarding or rewinding.


And there you have it. You sound like someone who has a clue about music formats.


I've been playing music since the days of my old Snoopy record player and making tapes with my old Snoopy (AM only) radio up next to a tape recorder, telling everyone "Shhhhh.....I'm making a tape". lol
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Reply #28 posted 11/20/05 7:54pm

kpowers

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I like to still listen straight through
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Reply #29 posted 11/20/05 7:54pm

vainandy

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Does anyone remember those discs in the early 1990s that looked like a CD but were the size of a vinyl record album? What were those? They sure didn't last long.
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