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Thread started 11/23/05 7:42am

Meloh9

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Camille

Would anybody like to see Camille return? Sounds like he popped up on the song Come On from NPS. Do you miss the Camille voice?
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Reply #1 posted 11/23/05 7:50am

sitruk7

Deninately! The Camille album was the perfect funk/pop/rock/soul fushion to me!
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Reply #2 posted 11/23/05 7:57am

Neversin

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Meloh9 said:

Would anybody like to see Camille return?

Hell no...
Anything Prince would record today under the Camille moniker would be a disgrace and a joke to the serious electro funk he isn't able to create anymore...
Camille's dead, let him rest, with Prince's current outlook on everything he would just ruin and tarnish Camille's rep...

Neversin.
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Reply #3 posted 11/23/05 8:05am

Meloh9

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Neversin said:

Meloh9 said:

Would anybody like to see Camille return?

Prince's current outlook on everything he would just ruin and tarnish Camille's rep...

Neversin.



maybe? maybe not
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Reply #4 posted 11/23/05 8:17am

NouveauDance

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Neversin said:

Meloh9 said:

Would anybody like to see Camille return?

Hell no...
Anything Prince would record today under the Camille moniker would be a disgrace and a joke to the serious electro funk he isn't able to create anymore...
Camille's dead, let him rest, with Prince's current outlook on everything he would just ruin and tarnish Camille's rep...

Neversin.


Agree wholeheartedly. I doubt very much Prince is capable of producing anything close to Camille today.
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Reply #5 posted 11/23/05 1:00pm

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I'd like Camille 2 make a return but I also think Musically he wont do so good. I think it's safe 2 say Camille will only live great in the Sign 'O' The Times album.
Some people think I'm kinda cute
But that don't compute when it comes 2 Y-O-U.
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Reply #6 posted 11/23/05 2:42pm

Zelaira

YES! LOVED ALL THAT IS CAMILLE....
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Reply #7 posted 11/25/05 12:28am

Meloh9

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so I take it most people feel like Prince is not capable of making good music these days?
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Reply #8 posted 11/25/05 12:44am

Cheek

Camille is a legend!!! worship
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Reply #9 posted 11/25/05 12:54am

MrsJimmyFallon

Camille is awesome. no question.

but i don't think the Camille persona/voice fits Prince's present mindset, lifestyle, or where he is currently at musically. if Prince resurrected it today, i think the end result would be either silly, sad, or unsatisfying.

basically, what Neversin already said. biggrin

(although i do wholeheartedly believe Prince is totally still capable of creating incredible music. i just don't think the Camille persona fits into the picture anymore, or at this point in his life anyway)
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Reply #10 posted 11/25/05 1:14am

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Meloh9 said:

so I take it most people feel like Prince is not capable of making good music these days?


He still is capable, but it seems like he is no longer interested in electrofunk. Too bad, 'cause that's the type of music I have enjoyed most from Prince.
RIP Prince: thank U 4 a funky Time...
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Reply #11 posted 11/25/05 5:25am

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Meloh9 said:

so I take it most people feel like Prince is not capable of making good music these days?

He can still make good music -great music, even -but given his current attitude I don't think resurrecting much of anything he's done before would work.

The funk is still here, but Prince's self-restricting has taken away a lot of the fun, which is equally important.
"A Watcher scoffs at gravity!"
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Reply #12 posted 11/25/05 12:36pm

Meloh9

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meow85 said:

Meloh9 said:

so I take it most people feel like Prince is not capable of making good music these days?

He can still make good music -great music, even -but given his current attitude I don't think resurrecting much of anything he's done before would work.

The funk is still here, but Prince's self-restricting has taken away a lot of the fun, which is equally important.




then why are the live shows so fun. is there something live that is missing from the albums? I just thought about the fact as I'm writing that a lot of early stuff was recorded live... hmmm He had me crackin' up at the Musicology show!
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Reply #13 posted 11/25/05 12:42pm

Zelaira

WEll, then if he DOESN"T WANNA BRING BACK SAY CAMILLE and his FORMER SELF WHAT THE HELL IS HE GONNA DO WITH HIS VAULT MUSIC? HE is going to just Have it Come out as BOOTLEGS? What is the PURPOSE of CREATING MUSIC and VIDEO THAT YOU WILL NEVER RELEASE? It's FOOLISH NOT TO RELEASE it NOW when he is STILL POPULAR. WHAT IS HE WAITING FOR? I DO WANT NEW MUSIC,but I THINK he should release the OLD STUFF ALSO.
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Reply #14 posted 11/25/05 12:43pm

kinke

i would love to see her return! i'm suprised that prince never released an album,featuring her?
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Reply #15 posted 11/25/05 5:15pm

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"him"
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Reply #16 posted 11/25/05 5:50pm

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The Camille persona abandoned Prince's confused mind and went on a pursuit for an artist with current mainstream appeal...one who would appericate it on a full-time basis rather than a sideshowact. At a time when hiphop seemed nothing more then a bunch of thuggish rappers sagging and grabbing they dicks, Andre Benjamin (Dre of rap duo Outkast) longed to be different. One night as Andre slumbered, Camille became one with his conscious, and Dre as the world barely knew him from rest of them rap singers, suddenly began dressing even weirder and acting even stranger than he had before...(most notably, his appearance on Slimm Cutta's "It's Okay" single) - many of hiphop listeners thought that Andre was either gay or on drugs - but, however, his new moniker (Andre 3000) was what Outkast need to go to that "next" level....
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Reply #17 posted 11/25/05 6:00pm

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Prospect said:

The Camille persona abandoned Prince's confused mind and went on a pursuit for an artist with current mainstream appeal...one who would appericate it on a full-time basis rather than a sideshowact. At a time when hiphop seemed nothing more then a bunch of thuggish rappers sagging and grabbing they dicks, Andre Benjamin (Dre of rap duo Outkast) longed to be different. One night as Andre slumbered, Camille became one with his conscious, and Dre as the world barely knew him from rest of them rap singers, suddenly began dressing even weirder and acting even stranger than he had before...(most notably, his appearance on Slimm Cutta's "It's Okay" single) - many of hiphop listeners thought that Andre was either gay or on drugs - but, however, his new moniker (Andre 3000) was what Outkast need to go to that "next" level....
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Reply #18 posted 11/26/05 2:25am

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Meloh9 said:

meow85 said:


He can still make good music -great music, even -but given his current attitude I don't think resurrecting much of anything he's done before would work.

The funk is still here, but Prince's self-restricting has taken away a lot of the fun, which is equally important.




then why are the live shows so fun. is there something live that is missing from the albums? I just thought about the fact as I'm writing that a lot of early stuff was recorded live... hmmm He had me crackin' up at the Musicology show!
[Edited 11/25/05 12:37pm]

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Reply #19 posted 11/26/05 11:54pm

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I have a Camille-related conundrum 4 any who would know- the 8 songs on the Camille record proper were 2 b If I Was Your Girlfriend, Housequake, Feel U Up, Rebirth of the Flesh, Good Love, Shockadelica, Rockhard in a Funky Place, and Strange Relationship. Camille gets vocal credit, also, on U got The Look. But even though Prince's voice on "Scarlet Pussy" is at regular speed, Camille gets songwriting credit on that particular track...

Given that the Camille album proper was meant for 1986, with U Got The Look surfacing in 1987, and Scarlet Pussy showing up in '88/'89 (can't remember the exact single release date), are we 2 assume that Camille lived on a little bit longer b4 being killed on the Lovesexy tour?

I know that U Got The Look was never intended as a Camille track, since it was sped up after the fact for Sheena Easton's part of it. I also know that Scarlet Pussy is one of those fascinating songs that can be played at 45 or 33 1/3 on vinyl and it still sounds like no 1 other than Prince.

So how do those 2 tracks fit in2 the Camille mythos? Please 4give my ignorance- I ask in order 2 learn.
Once upon a time in a haystack of despair; happiness sometimes hard to find, yeah.
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Reply #20 posted 11/27/05 2:51am

NouveauDance

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therighteous1 said:


So how do those 2 tracks fit in2 the Camille mythos? Please 4give my ignorance- I ask in order 2 learn.


Edit: OK, scrap what I originally wrote, I can put it way more concisely:

The idea of Camille using only the 'sped-up' vocal begins and ends with the abandoning of the idea of the Camille LP itself.

Instead of the single LP idea, Prince decided to expand on the LP into the 3LP set Crystal Ball, which for a short-while was still attributed to Camille. So here, already, the Camille moniker is not confined only to the sped-up voice.

Then, Camille was also Prince's character in Graffiti Bridge, the songs from which were also not to be exclusively in the sped-up vocal.

Then, by the time of the Lovesexy tour, Prince used the Camille name to attribute the creation of both The Black Album and Lovesexy, both of which use various vocal styles, from sped-up, regular, and slowed-down.

So the idea that Camille is exclusively a sped-up vocal, or that it is one singular, linear idea and concept is bogus and too restrictive. The Camille persona and name was used for various projects and various purposes.


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Reply #21 posted 11/27/05 6:47am

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Yeah sometimes I really do. I know alot of people who are not Prince fans find the Camille voice really obnoxious but I being a hardcore Prince fan it doesn't bother me. The only thing is I wish Prince would have sung "If I was your girlfriend" like he did in the movie Sign of the Times instead of the Camille voice. biggrin
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