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Reply #30 posted 11/28/05 8:00am

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Controversy said:

Paisley4u said:

I prefer George's version.
When P's version came out I hoped it would be better but it ain't.

Especially the Unplugged by George is great!



Totally agree !


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My sentiments exactly. George's voice complements the lyrics perfectly. (Haven't heard his Unplugged version--what album is it on?)
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Reply #31 posted 11/28/05 8:08am

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lets remove the vocal execution. lets remove the musical arrangment and simply look at the lyric. the words convey pain, heartache, loss and desperation. the narrator of this song is letting all that hurt go. its a final decleration that this thing is over. Their last night alone is not a passionate one. The narrator already knows that whatever intimacy occurs will be one of mercy, not love. with all the cards on the table i personally believe that it is against the character of the narrator to flip personality and become a lothario. this person is in far too much pain. the situation too sad.

prince's intrepretation betrays the narrative of the story. IMHO.

so in short, the added lyric cancels out the actual meaning of the original, right?
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Reply #32 posted 11/28/05 8:18am

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Handclapsfingasnapz said:

sosgemini said:

lets remove the vocal execution. lets remove the musical arrangment and simply look at the lyric. the words convey pain, heartache, loss and desperation. the narrator of this song is letting all that hurt go. its a final decleration that this thing is over. Their last night alone is not a passionate one. The narrator already knows that whatever intimacy occurs will be one of mercy, not love. with all the cards on the table i personally believe that it is against the character of the narrator to flip personality and become a lothario. this person is in far too much pain. the situation too sad.

prince's intrepretation betrays the narrative of the story. IMHO.

so in short, the added lyric cancels out the actual meaning of the original, right?


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Reply #33 posted 11/28/05 8:18am

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sosgemini said:

Handclapsfingasnapz said:


so in short, the added lyric cancels out the actual meaning of the original, right?


yes, my momma says i talk to much... lol

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Reply #34 posted 11/28/05 2:51pm

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because One More Night is asking for "one more night". this song is a declaration that the relationship is already over.

Turn down the lights, turn down the bed
Turn down these voices inside my head
Lay down with me, tell me no lies
Just hold me close, don't patronize - don't patronize me

Chorus: cause i can't make you love me if you don't
You can't make your heart feel something it won't
Here in the dark, in these lonely hours
I will lay down my heart and i'll feel the power
But you won't, no you won't
'cause i can't make you love me, if you don't


I'll close my eyes, then i won't see
The love you don't feel when you're holding me
Morning will come and i'll do what's right
Just give me till then to give up this fight
And i will give up this fight
Chorus: cause i can't make you love me if you don't
You can't make your heart feel something it won't
Here in the dark, in these lonely hours
I will lay down my heart and i'll feel the power
But you won't, no you won't
'cause i can't make you love me, if you don't


lets remove the vocal execution. lets remove the musical arrangment and simply look at the lyric. the words convey pain, heartache, loss and desperation. the narrator of this song is letting all that hurt go. its a final decleration that this thing is over. Their last night alone is not a passionate one. The narrator already knows that whatever intimacy occurs will be one of mercy, not love. with all the cards on the table i personally believe that it is against the character of the narrator to flip personality and become a lothario. this person is in far too much pain. the situation too sad.

prince's intrepretation betrays the narrative of the story. IMHO.

I think he changed the interpretation to make the song his own.


(btw: this is a fun discussion. the org would be a much better place if we all were capable of these types of discussions. minus the "your not a fan" knee-jerk reaction that is far too common here) wink

You still ain't a fan, tho...but that's aight... lol
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Reply #35 posted 11/28/05 3:02pm

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jone70 said:

Controversy said:




Totally agree !


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My sentiments exactly. George's voice complements the lyrics perfectly. (Haven't heard his Unplugged version--what album is it on?)

I thought it was a b-side on one of his "Older"singles.
U can download it somewhere easy. wink
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Reply #36 posted 11/28/05 3:52pm

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The reason that I like Prince's version, is due to the fact that he still has not given up hope.He is not going down without a fight, which is something that we all do, when we get rejected. There isn't anybody on this earth that has not said something stupid, in the hopes that it will get somebody back. His also has to do with ego. This is something else that we never think about. When a person that we love, says no, our ego is bruised. Price's version shows this. This is why he continues to try.He is also hoping that by making love to her, that those feelings that they once shared, will come back. I don't see this as him spoiling it at all or turning it into a "sex song". His is full of real emotion. Yes, at first his is about giving up. He then however that he must not give up without a fight.
[Edited 11/25/05 16:13pm]

U took the words right out of my mouth. Prince's twist put him back in the game. And everybody that I know loves Prince's version. I understand Patti LaBelle also remade this gem. And P socked it 2 her as well. Some of his best vocals ever!
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Reply #37 posted 11/28/05 4:42pm

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I agree, the backing falsettos in "I will lay down my heart" especially, its smooth and multilayered something Prince does best. Its definitely a dark eerie brooding song as well. The narrator is clearly trying to force an unwinnable situation on to someone else. And yes when Prince says I offer you SEXUAL relations, that is what sets him apart from all the other versions. We take a generic song and Princefy it (ie sex it up a little)
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Reply #38 posted 11/28/05 6:14pm

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1. nancy wilson
2. bonnie raitt
3..george michael
3. will downing
4. prince
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Reply #39 posted 11/29/05 2:04am

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i gotta say having heard george's version for the first time only a few weeks ago, i really like his vocal. i also love the feel on candy dulfers instrumental version. also i was never that keen on bonnie raits version, i didnt quite capture me. so my solution, lets get it recorded with george, prince singing backing and playing piano, and get candy to out some sax solo in there aswell! thats all, no huge production, piano, vocal and sax!
changing my variety, changing my style, wont take long just listen for a while
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Reply #40 posted 11/29/05 2:10pm

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Paisley4u said:

jone70 said:



nod
My sentiments exactly. George's voice complements the lyrics perfectly. (Haven't heard his Unplugged version--what album is it on?)

I thought it was a b-side on one of his "Older"singles.
U can download it somewhere easy. wink


The single version was a B-side, and can also be found on Ladies and Gentlemen...The Best of George Michael.

The unplugged version is on the DVD of Ladies and Gentlemen...

In my opinion, George's is the best. His vocals are amazing, and you can hear the heartache.
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Reply #41 posted 11/29/05 2:55pm

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Patti Labelle has performed this song as well on her latest cd. Unfortunately, it is quite bland for it has no emotion to it.

I will have to say it is a tie between Prince's and Bonnie Raitt. I believe it is a matter of mood. Bonnie is just so raw and honest it hurts. Prince's is so full of emotion that it brings tears to my eyes.
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Reply #42 posted 11/30/05 6:45am

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hilton02895 said:

Patti Labelle has performed this song as well on her latest cd. Unfortunately, it is quite bland for it has no emotion to it.

I will have to say it is a tie between Prince's and Bonnie Raitt. I believe it is a matter of mood. Bonnie is just so raw and honest it hurts. Prince's is so full of emotion that it brings tears to my eyes.


I totally agree. To me, hearing a song by a man, that was originally song by a woman, puts a different spin on the song. I have always believed that a love song sounds better when it is coming from a man. Prince, knows that even though it might be over, sex is the one thing that she might find hard to resist. He feels that if he can get her to commit in one way, then he just might be able to convince her all the way, later. People look at his version as a song of lust....I look at it as a song of hope....Hope that I can convince her to stay. He is just showing his vunerable side. This is a side that is not so often seen of him.
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Reply #43 posted 11/30/05 7:22am

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shorttrini said:

I have always believed that a love song sounds better when it is coming from a man.



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Reply #44 posted 11/30/05 7:44am

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sosgemini said:

shorttrini said:

I have always believed that a love song sounds better when it is coming from a man.



whofarted

you guy or girl?


I am a guy. What does that have to do with anything? I just think that a when a guy sings a sings a love song, he will sing it with more feeling. Take Toni Braxton's "Breathe Again", that song was written by Babyface. He wrote that after a bad break up years earlier. Even "I can't make u love me". Even though some guys have been thought to hold it in, sometimes it comes out in song.
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Reply #45 posted 11/30/05 7:49am

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shorttrini said:

sosgemini said:




whofarted

you guy or girl?


I am a guy. What does that have to do with anything? I just think that a when a guy sings a sings a love song, he will sing it with more feeling. Take Toni Braxton's "Breathe Again", that song was written by Babyface. He wrote that after a bad break up years earlier. Even "I can't make u love me". Even though some guys have been thought to hold it in, sometimes it comes out in song.



it has a lot..i figured you were a girl who could emotionally connect to a male song because you might buy into the fantasy of love easier that way..but you've clarified your comments now and i see i was off base.

i totally disagree with you btw. i personally think its sexist to say a man is better at writing love songs for whatever reason..please note im not calling you sexist i just cant ever see myself making that type of comment because i wouldnt want to be perceived as a sexist..cha know what i mean?
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