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PrintableNovabreaker said: TheMaster said: If I can dig it when David Bowie branches out, why can't I dig it when Prince does it? Cause when Bowie branches out he'll do something substantial and artsy, like the "1.Outside" album or "Baal". The only Prince thing that operates even remotely on the same levels is "The Rainbow Children", "NEWS" is far too elevator music to be branching out to anything else than elevators. I like listening to "NEWS" when I'm trying to feel asleep though. Yeah, and I really loved when he did the ambient stuff, like Sense of Doubt, Moss Garden, Neukoln, Crystal Japan, Subterraneans, Warszawa, Art Decade, Some Are, and Weeping Wall... What is strange is none of these songs are really lively or jumping. They are very laid back, mellow, atmospheric pieces. They are designed for relaxation. And I love every one of them... But then again, I have always been sort of high strung, so mellow, relaxing, music is very good for me. | |
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vainandy said: TheMaster said:
If I can dig it when David Bowie branches out, why can't I dig it when Prince does it? Because no matter which era each of us discovered Prince in, he was standing apart from everyone else of that era. When he changes to something else, he may be still standing apart from the other artists, but he loses that particular "stand apart" quality that attracted him to us....whatever era that may be. He has too many types of fans to please. Yeah, I agree COMPLETELY. I got into 1999/Purple Rain era Prince. And it's been very difficult to embrace the other eras that came after Parade & SOTT... I still hate the New Power Generation. | |
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BeautifulFrance said: You hate Jazz. Full Stop. It is a matter of taste. There is no arrogance in Jazz. The only arrogance I see comes from a few elitists people who pretend they love Jaaaaazz music like if it was the sign of the absolute good taste. Jazz is in fact an incredible form of expression which requires a lot of structure and sense of improvistion at the same time. When you go in a club and listen to great jazz musicians, you will notice how down to earth and humble they are...which most pop musicians are clearly not. You hate TRC. Alright. Fair enough. For me it is a masterpiece. I would have never thought before TRC that I would one day feel the same way as when I discovered new Prince stuff back in the 80s. Regarding news, I think it is interesting. It is another side of Prince music. I would not call it a Jazz album though. 
[Edited 11/24/05 3:47am] - Agreed....first, jazz is not only feel-good music. It can be more crazy than rock sometimes. I remember I worked in a studio where I had two co-workers: one of them was a jazz fan and the other one was a metal fan, so they used to alternate the Cds we listened to. For my surprise, some Coltrane and Miles albums were crazier and most unpredictable than Soundgarden´s About TRC, I don´t understand why people considered it as a smooth jazz album....it has jazzy moments, but songs like ´Family Name´ and ´Everlasting Now´ are pure funk. ´Everywhere´and ´1+1+1=3´ sound like his 80s output. ´She loves me 4 me´ is a rock ballad. ´Last December´ is a "rock anthem" a la ´Gold´ But, back to the topic, NEWS is a good jam album (I liked it more than Xpectations). I just missed strong themes/melodies. |
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Well I wasn't really talking about TRC. I have barely listened to it. I had to take it out when "The Wedding Feast" started up... | |
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I like NEWS. I agree with United1878 that the bass and drums are the best. The packaging is really great too.
(And it was nominated for a Grammy for best Pop instrumental album: http://www.grammy.com/awa...6noms.aspx scroll to Field 1, category 10.)  The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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TheMaster said: Well I wasn't really talking about TRC. I have barely listened to it. I had to take it out when "The Wedding Feast" started up...
Ya wuss 
. "You don't frighten us, English pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, sons of a silly person." | |
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giotto said: TheMaster said: Well I wasn't really talking about TRC. I have barely listened to it. I had to take it out when "The Wedding Feast" started up...
Ya wuss
. There's only SO much a person can handle... My ears started burning when that shit started up. | |
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jone70 said: I like NEWS. The packaging is really great too.
I like NEWS too. I take it the plastic cd holder hasn't fallen out of your copy yet. Mine popped out about a week after I bought it. | |
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thedoorkeeper said: jone70 said: I like NEWS. The packaging is really great too.
I like NEWS too. I take it the plastic cd holder hasn't fallen out of your copy yet. Mine popped out about a week after I bought it. I guess I should have said, "The design of the packaging is really great, too." But at any rate, my cd holder is still intact.  The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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jone70 said: "The design of the packaging is really great, too."
I agree. I like the fold-ups. I have liked when Prince has chosen designs that are primarily cardboard - One Nite Alone The Rainbow Children NEWS Musicology All four have used different ways of folding the design. Different ways of having the cd open up & inviting the listener in.They may not be 100% successful - the booklet falls out of Musicology, the corners of NEWS get bent - but they are at least an attempt at something a little different. | |
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jone70 said: I agree with United1878 that the bass and drums are the best.
Cheers! |
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Sorry, SNOOZE is and always will be boring, turgid, lifeless, meandering crap. But Mushitology was much worse. There are three sides to every story. My side, your side, and the truth. And no one is lying. Memories shared serve each one differently | |
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Prince NEWS is what i listen to when i have my family and children in the house. MAny people i know don't accept Prince, but without them knowing i put on NEWS and they always tell me "it's nice" or "i like it" and when i tell them it's Prince they cringe and i LOL. "since when did prince do an instrumental" they then say. haha [Edited 11/29/05 22:49pm] | |
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thedoorkeeper said: jone70 said: "The design of the packaging is really great, too."
I agree. I like the fold-ups. I have liked when Prince has chosen designs that are primarily cardboard - One Nite Alone The Rainbow Children NEWS Musicology All four have used different ways of folding the design. Different ways of having the cd open up & inviting the listener in.They may not be 100% successful - the booklet falls out of Musicology, the corners of NEWS get bent - but they are at least an attempt at something a little different. Yeah, just what I always wanted... Crap packaging for the sake of being "different". It's not being different. It's being CHEAP... | |
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TheMaster said: thedoorkeeper said: I agree. I like the fold-ups. I have liked when Prince has chosen designs that are primarily cardboard - One Nite Alone The Rainbow Children NEWS Musicology All four have used different ways of folding the design. Different ways of having the cd open up & inviting the listener in.They may not be 100% successful - the booklet falls out of Musicology, the corners of NEWS get bent - but they are at least an attempt at something a little different. Yeah, just what I always wanted... Crap packaging for the sake of being "different". It's not being different. It's being CHEAP... Bart van Hemelen... is that you?  | |
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TheMaster said: thedoorkeeper said: I agree. I like the fold-ups. I have liked when Prince has chosen designs that are primarily cardboard - One Nite Alone The Rainbow Children NEWS Musicology All four have used different ways of folding the design. Different ways of having the cd open up & inviting the listener in.They may not be 100% successful - the booklet falls out of Musicology, the corners of NEWS get bent - but they are at least an attempt at something a little different. Yeah, just what I always wanted... Crap packaging for the sake of being "different". It's not being different. It's being CHEAP... Or maybe it's more environmentally conscious? Cardboard probably costs less to manufacture, can be made from recycled materials, and is more degradable than plastic cases. The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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jone70 said: TheMaster said: Yeah, just what I always wanted... Crap packaging for the sake of being "different". It's not being different. It's being CHEAP... Or maybe it's more environmentally conscious? Cardboard probably costs less to manufacture, can be made from recycled materials, and is more degradable than plastic cases. Believe what you like. I've been in the business world long enough to know cheapness when I see it. Shit like being "environmentally conscious" is what PR people feed the public in order to not look like the cheap fucks that they are, as they raise prices. Spend as little as possible & charge as much as possible... That is the real world. | |
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TheMaster said: jone70 said: Or maybe it's more environmentally conscious? Cardboard probably costs less to manufacture, can be made from recycled materials, and is more degradable than plastic cases. Believe what you like. I've been in the business world long enough to know cheapness when I see it. Shit like being "environmentally conscious" is what PR people feed the public in order to not look like the cheap fucks that they are, as they raise prices. Spend as little as possible & charge as much as possible... That is the real world. I know that's right! I don't know if they (cardboard cd cases) are more environmentally conscious, I was just throwing it out there as a possible alternative reason... The check. The string he dropped. The Mona Lisa. The musical notes taken out of a hat. The glass. The toy shotgun painting. The things he found. Therefore, everything seen–every object, that is, plus the process of looking at it–is a Duchamp. | |
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jone70 said: TheMaster said: Believe what you like. I've been in the business world long enough to know cheapness when I see it. Shit like being "environmentally conscious" is what PR people feed the public in order to not look like the cheap fucks that they are, as they raise prices. Spend as little as possible & charge as much as possible... That is the real world. I know that's right! I don't know if they (cardboard cd cases) are more environmentally conscious, I was just throwing it out there as a possible alternative reason... Yeah, the only thing is, not too many people are environmentally conscious, unless it's a way of saving money. Personally, I hate this sort of thing when it comes to CD's & DVD's. I like my collection to all fit together, not the odd package that isn't the same shape, so it has to sit to the side, somewhere. At least the cheap cardboard shit fits in the CD case... But I like my plastic covering. | |
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I've had NEWS for over a year and still haven't listened to it.  | |
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Well I didn't BUY it... Although the more I listen to it, the more I think I might buy it. | |
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TheMaster said: Well I didn't BUY it... Although the more I listen to it, the more I think I might buy it.
Oh God... the suspense is killing me...  | |
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Shut the fuck up... | |
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By the way, The Master rocks!
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shaomi said: PurpleKnight said: The Sensual Everafter
Arboretum The difference between these two instrumentals and anything on NEWS is that they actually have a melody. They're not just band practice sessions. NEWS is a SNOOZE. [snip - luv4u] . [Edited 11/26/05 10:12am] Now that's crazy, i'm the victim of an insane censorship on the org??? What the heck ?!  | |
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NEWS really is great. I'm not a huge Jazz fan but this CD is one of my favorites. | |
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I think TRC and NEWS are two great back to back releases from P. I also am a fan of instrumental music. That's why I like both. TRC has some great instrumental segues like the end of Rainbow Children. In retrospect I think he was on roll. Musicology doesn't hold up for me and it's not one I go back to. TRC and NEWS I still pop in. Fantasy is reality in the world today. But I'll keep hangin in there, that is the only way. | |
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TMPletz said: By the way, The Master rocks!
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