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Reply #30 posted 11/14/05 5:59pm

brothaluv

Just thinking out out loud here. Maybe it's the testoterone. That's the hormone that generally make men the jerks we are. Women may be instinctively attracted to it. The more of it, the stronger the attraction. Whatever it is, women just don't seem to like nice guys as much as their malicious counterparts. Who knows why? Maybe the idea of an insensitive jerk loving you is more appealing than a guy who strives to treat everyone with dignity and respect.Think about it. If the Dali Llama loves you, big deal. He strives to love everyone or so he would have us believe. But if Mephistopheles loves you, thats a bigger boost to the old ego. "I'm special! I'm special! He hates everybody but me!" The problem with that scenario is that eventually he'll turn on you too. Women love these roughneck thug types popularized in videos. That is, until the thuggism comes your way. Then they look to a nice guy to pick up the pieces -- only to repeat the process again and again ad infinitum. The only thing that seems to break this cycle is pain. Pain is a merciless teacher, but an effective one.
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Reply #31 posted 11/14/05 6:01pm

Krystal666

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brothaluv said:

Just thinking out out loud here. Maybe it's the testoterone. That's the hormone that generally make men the jerks we are. Women may be instinctively attracted to it. The more of it, the stronger the attraction. Whatever it is, women just don't seem to like nice guys as much as their malicious counterparts. Who knows why? Maybe the idea of an insensitive jerk loving you is more appealing than a guy who strives to treat everyone with dignity and respect.Think about it. If the Dali Llama loves you, big deal. He strives to love everyone or so he would have us believe. But if Mephistopheles loves you, thats a bigger boost to the old ego. "I'm special! I'm special! He hates everybody but me!" The problem with that scenario is that eventually he'll turn on you too. Women love these roughneck thug types popularized in videos. That is, until the thuggism comes your way. Then they look to a nice guy to pick up the pieces -- only to repeat the process again and again ad infinitum. The only thing that seems to break this cycle is pain. Pain is a merciless teacher, but an effective one.


Deep thoughts brothaluv! clapping
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Reply #32 posted 11/14/05 7:45pm

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MrsJimmyFallon said:

Krystal666 said:



Huh??? Oh my god one girl told us a story about Prince embarrassing Carmen on a night out in front of everyone and making her cry by saying she was getting fat! Prince can be nasty expecialy to women sometimes.


i agree. i'm surprised anyone would think Prince wouldn't insult someone's appearance. he might not do such a thing often, i wouldn't know, but he definitely has it in him to be mean like that when he wants to.

at one of the Celebrations Prince basically called Matt Fink fat in front of everybody. IIRC, Rosie Gaines has herself said that Prince would make direct and indirect derogatory comments about her weight/looks which made her feel bad. and at a concert in recent years, in front of the entire audience, Prince insulted some random girl's looks with a comment like "I wouldn't be seen sitting with a chick like her" or something like that. he didn't need to make any remarks about any of those people, he couldn't just kept his opinions to himself.

i also heard he made some less than sensitive remarks about Mayte's appearace when they were together.

i love Prince and he's got a lot of good qualities, but he can mean sometimes, especially regarding looks.
Okay, Maybe I'm missing something here but wasn't Rosie heavy-set before she was hired by Prince? I think in her case, It was just some good-natured teasing by him that she took personal. Becuase if he didn't want any big-boned women in the band, I'm quite sure he could've found someone who could sing and have a nice figure. Hey, before Rosie there was Bonnie Boyer. Did he ever give her a hard time about her weight?
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Reply #33 posted 11/14/05 9:58pm

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Wow, this thread went in a new direction lol

Well did anybody else notice that Monique was a Glam Slam Dancer
in Graffiti Bridge? biggrin
If you will, so will I
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Reply #34 posted 11/15/05 12:52am

Krystal666

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MrsJimmyFallon said:

Krystal666 said:



Huh??? Oh my god one girl told us a story about Prince embarrassing Carmen on a night out in front of everyone and making her cry by saying she was getting fat! Prince can be nasty expecialy to women sometimes.


ii also heard he made some less than sensitive remarks about Mayte's appearace when they were together.

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Well, look, I understand Prince wanting Mayte to have had a certain body weight if she was going to be preforming onstage with him...so in that regard I can understand him getting on her ass about it.

Like Mayte said she LOVES food just like me so we definatly have to watch what we eat but yeah I am sure Prince wasn't nice about it to her. He seems like the type that is definatly not shy when it comes to telling his women when they need to tighten their butt up. booty!
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Reply #35 posted 11/15/05 12:10pm

Spats

Guys who treat women poorly get more action then men who treat women like queens. It's a fact jack. People think being called a nice guy is a compliment but it's not because women are not breaking down the doors of nice guys. Women have real issues when it comes to bad boys and nice guys. When it comes to women nice guys finish last.
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Reply #36 posted 11/15/05 12:27pm

Universaluv

thekidsgirl said:

Wow, this thread went in a new direction lol

Well did anybody else notice that Monique was a Glam Slam Dancer
in Graffiti Bridge? biggrin


Saw that. Which is odd if the "ugly" story is true.
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Reply #37 posted 11/15/05 12:36pm

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It was Julia Roberts - I quite fancy her.
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Reply #38 posted 11/20/05 12:33pm

lunacoco

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I also heard a rumour on here that it's actually not Wendy playing guitar but Susannah, and that the twins plays "switcheraoo" for the video. Don't know if that's true either. I guess only Wendy and Susannah would know for sure smile


I heard this from a guy somewhere in Wisconsin too!..He was from Atlanta, GA...said it was Gospel...
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Reply #39 posted 11/21/05 6:31am

Lenae

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lunacoco said:

GaryMF said:

I also heard a rumour on here that it's actually not Wendy playing guitar but Susannah, and that the twins plays "switcheraoo" for the video. Don't know if that's true either. I guess only Wendy and Susannah would know for sure smile


I heard this from a guy somewhere in Wisconsin too!..He was from Atlanta, GA...said it was Gospel...


i heard this somewhere too, so i emailed Wendy at wendyandlisa.com and her answer was "hahahahaha . . .NO" when i asked her if that was Susannah in the Kiss video.

on the other point, i remember watching Arsenio Hall and he made a big point about how upset he was that Prince used two girls in that video and that he put his friend (monique) behind that veil . . . not sure who the other girl was though.
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Reply #40 posted 11/21/05 7:37am

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Lenae said:

lunacoco said:



I heard this from a guy somewhere in Wisconsin too!..He was from Atlanta, GA...said it was Gospel...


i heard this somewhere too, so i emailed Wendy at wendyandlisa.com and her answer was "hahahahaha . . .NO" when i asked her if that was Susannah in the Kiss video.



Well, neither of the "veil girls" look like her, so that one is a pretty silly rumour.

As for the rumour that Wendy and Susannah had pulled a "switch", that one is also pretty goofy, considering that, at the time, Susannah had really long hair, and Wendy had a very short 'do. It is obviously Wendy playing the guitar in the video.
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Do not hurry yourself in your spirit to become offended, for the taking of offense is what rests in the bosom of the stupid ones. (Ecclesiastes 7:9)
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