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do you feel Prince communicates his feelings and beliefs through his music i have recently been heavily criticized by some on this site simply for stating that i believe Prince communicates his feelings and beliefs to real supporters through his music and that Prince sees the world on a deeper level than most... because of this people have said i'm "crazy or i worship him as a god" although i must say i have had support on this from other members but was totally amazed at the narrow minded views i was hit with on such a site like this SO.... i ask... do you see a deeper side or meaning in a lot of P's music or are they just a bunch of songs about nuthin...
hmm.. family name... dear mr man.... hello.... dolphin... purple rain... race... etc etc etc etc [Edited 11/8/05 20:20pm] | |
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he's your messiah and the only reason why | |
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It's true, there are A LOT of people here who could care less about the lyrics, and that's sad, really. Art is more than a good groove. | |
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Absolutely. | |
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 ...Yes. I appreciate the insight that he has on certain issues. When I first heard 1999, I thought, WOW! This guy is deep. What would make him think so far into the future about our world and where humanity was going (War, Reagan Administration, etc.)?  "A united state of mind will never be divided
The real definition of unity is 1 People can slam their door, disagree and fight it But how U gonna love the Father but not love the Son? United States of Division"     | |
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Yes, Prince has tackled serious subjects, and written lyrics that have deep or hidden meanings, or that can be interpreted in different ways. Hey, that's one of the things many like about him!
Just because someone criticizes a few of the many things Prince has done/said in his life, does not make them too shallow or stupid to appreciate or understand anything he's tried to convey. However, maybe some people got the impression you have that outlook, and thus need to be more openminded yourself?   "I would say that Prince's top thirty percent is great. Of that thirty percent, I'll bet the public has heard twenty percent of it." - Susan Rogers, "Hunting for Prince's Vault", BBC, 2015 |
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CandaceS said: Yes, Prince has tackled serious subjects, and written lyrics that have deep or hidden meanings, or that can be interpreted in different ways. Hey, that's one of the things many like about him!
Just because someone criticizes a few of the many things Prince has done/said in his life, does not make them too shallow or stupid to appreciate or understand anything he's tried to convey. However, maybe some people got the impression you have that outlook, and thus need to be more openminded yourself? what outlook exactly are you refering to.. your statement dont make sense and has twisted the issue discussed in another forum, i was attacked and accused of being crazy and worshipping Prince as God simply because i tried to point out that Prince does have deeper meanings in his songs !! for that i was ridiculed [snip - luv4u] and i tried to point out that people need to not believe everything they read... for that i was ridiculed by people who say that there is no message in Prince songs its just music...HOW DOES THAT MAKE ME THE NARROW MINDED ONE ?? wouldnt the ones who cant see the deeper meaning be the narrow minded ones !!! | |
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Yes,Prince says it all in the music. Yes, you can Feel his Love,his Pain,His ANGST in his Music. It's OVERWHELMING. The SONG A MILLION MILES for EXAMPLE is a SONG That Just for SOME REASON Brings me to TEARS.... ANd of COURSE SOMETIMES IT SNOWS IN APRIL. I DO NOT KNOW WHO THESE SONGS ARE ABOUT...SILLY as it is I am CRYING NOW....Sometimes I hear Happiness in his Music,Words OTHERTIMES DEEP SADNESS. I think his MUSIC is HIS RELEASE and I THINK he's Very INTENSE and FEELING. The REligion Comes Out and his POLITICS also. You can learn ALOT about PRINCE from his MUSIC.At TIMES I WAS SOOO OVERCOME with PASSION that I FELt....NO! I CANNOT CONTINUE SEEINg HIm CAUSE he WAS Causing TOO MUCH FEELINg IN ME and being a CONTROLLED SORT..I JUST HATEd IT! It was TOO MUCH... I would ask FRIENDS TO HOLD MY HAND and LITERALLY had to be CARRIED by a FRIEND CAUSE I WAs TOO SPENT with EMOTION... NOBODY has EVER DONE THIS to ME BEFORE. I would have a Good Time at CONCERTs BUT NOT FEEL FAINT and ORGASMIC. So STUPID BEING an EPILEPTIC ...PRINCE drove me to FRENZY/SEIZURE. I am NOt SUPPOSE to GET SO EXCITED. It has ALWAYS BEEN PRINCE and YES, I WAs AFRAID of his POWER/INTENSITy OVER ME..... He made me WEAK.....  I NEVER FELT SO SEXY/OVERCOME/TAKEN BEFORE in MY LIFE!!![Edited 11/9/05 16:47pm] | |
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Prince is the artist that is more sucessful in my opinion in showing his most diverse feeligns through his music. And that is way he is my fav. artist. Because he has lots of outlets to let that flow. He plays diverses styles and diverses instruments. So when you hear a Prince song it' a piece of his universe, and it sounds like he really means what he play. THat it's shy it's so unique. It's not like 9 guys bored playing a standard funk groove. |
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sure he expresses his feeling through his lyrics. all songwriters do that.
i just don't think he's worthy of being considered a spiritual leader, as you pegged him in the last thread, meltwithyou NO way. you would want to read about TRUE spiritual leaders and then compare their lifestyles to that led by prince in order to simply understand what i mean. read about kahlil gibran. mother theresa. read about these truly unselfish people who devoted their life not to personal gain, fame or fortune, but to other people in need. failing that, try to imagine krishana or allah or jesus preaching some of the anger prince has voiced over the course of his career. | |
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XxAxX said: sure he expresses his feeling through his lyrics. all songwriters do that.
i just don't think he's worthy of being considered a spiritual leader, as you pegged him in the last thread, meltwithyou NO way. you would want to read about TRUE spiritual leaders and then compare their lifestyles to that led by prince in order to simply understand what i mean. read about kahlil gibran. mother theresa. read about these truly unselfish people who devoted their life not to personal gain, fame or fortune, but to other people in need. failing that, try to imagine krishana or allah or jesus preaching some of the anger prince has voiced over the course of his career. [Flame snipped - luv4u] what i said was he has always been like !!! a spiritual leader to a lot of his fans who are uplifted by his message !!! [Flame snipped - luv4u]if you dont see a deeper meaning in his music and words thats your perogative.. it doesnt mean it isnt there just because you dont see it... i have actually studied world religions for over 20 years so dont preach to me about what spirituality is... [Flame snipped - luv4u] you seem to forget or dont know about ALL the people Prince has helped and ALL the People who have worked with him who say nothing but GOOD about him and ALL the money he donates to charity and ALL the charities he has help set up like the recent s.s.t single to help those affected by katrina [Flame snipped - luv4u] | |
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what do you mean by 'deeper meaning', he makes me feel like he and i are the only two in this world... if not spiritual or emotional, yes, his lyrics contain multiple meaning. I always thought of prince's lyrics as challenging and provocative, in a good and powerful way, he doesn't dull the mind, he's scary at times, shocking but his music is to me like the best ice-cream parlor in the world. I love the way princes uses the english language, fit's it rythmically into his songs and makes melodies with his lyrics...to me that's the genius of Prince. [Edited 11/9/05 17:31pm] | |
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Yes,and to me PRINCE is that CARAMEL That DRIPS OFF OF a SPOON THAT YOU GINGERLY LICK.....So GOOD and SOOOO DELICIOUS and SOOOO FULFILLING...PRINCE Makes ya Wanna Lick that SPOON.... His ESSENCE POURS OUT ALL OVER THAT SPOON! You CANNOT GET ENOUGH of HIS CREAM!!!! | |
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yeah, LOL...whatever,i like ice-cream, and i was referring to the diversity in prince...like it or not prince is to me the best ice-cream kiosk in music [Edited 11/9/05 18:10pm] | |
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I've not thought of Prince as a spiritual leader but I have thought of him as a lay philosopher and believe you can see schools of thought progress throughout his whole body of work. Which is one reason why I love his lyrics and get mad when I think he's betrayed his former spoken theories.
Sometimes his poetry is more important to me than his musicianship. But generally they are equal. | |
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The PROBLEM WITh PRINCE 's ORGANIZATIOn has ALWAYS BEEN DISORGANIZATION and MISMANAGEMENT...He NEEDS it ORGANIZED to RUN SMOOTHLY AGAIN. It's been a JUMBLEd MESS with MARKETING and SECURITY. He NEEDs it to RUN SMOOTHLY with NO STRESS,NO BULLSHIT and MIX-UPS.... It was NOT PRINCE'S FAULT as a MISUNDERSTOOD GENIUS! When WILL he GEt HIS JUST REWARDS? It is LONG OVERDUE!!! Let him B! Never TRY to ANALYZE a MUSICIAN As PRINCE...JUST ACCEPT HIM.... [Edited 11/9/05 18:29pm] | |
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chunky said: what do you mean by 'deeper meaning', he makes me feel like he and i are the only two in this world... if not spiritual or emotional, yes, his lyrics contain multiple meaning. I always thought of prince's lyrics as challenging and provocative, in a good and powerful way, he doesn't dull the mind, he's scary at times, shocking but his music is to me like the best ice-cream parlor in the world. I love the way princes uses the english language, fit's it rythmically into his songs and makes melodies with his lyrics...to me that's the genius of Prince.
[Edited 11/9/05 17:31pm] you kinda answered ur own ? there.. you said he makes you feel like he and you are the only 2 in this world if not spiritualy or emotionaly... i mean there is something about him that alot of people can see or feel if in thier own way... when Prince plays he isnt just like most musicians who just play the music... there is something more to it, its like he has the ability to instantly transfer feelings and emotions through how he plays the notes, people i know who have seen Prince live and arnt even a fan have said to me how the experience was almost spiritual as in how emotional they felt from how he played the music... most Prince fans i have met have all talked about a deeper connection to his music and views on life... Prince is someone that most either hate or absolutely love... theres not many who sit on the fence so to speak... so obviousley theres somethin happenin there in that he generates strong emotions either way throughout the whole world... not everyone is expected to feel the same way but that dont mean its not there and those people cant feel it, people dont have to see it or feel it but that dont mean they have to go outa thier way to proove anyone who can wrong...! people who love Prince love him because of what they get from his music and the message in his music, all great art tries to convay a message or emotion !! and that message obviousley depends on the person recieving the message, his music is more than just about sellin albums... | |
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meltwithyou said: chunky said: what do you mean by 'deeper meaning', he makes me feel like he and i are the only two in this world... if not spiritual or emotional, yes, his lyrics contain multiple meaning. I always thought of prince's lyrics as challenging and provocative, in a good and powerful way, he doesn't dull the mind, he's scary at times, shocking but his music is to me like the best ice-cream parlor in the world. I love the way princes uses the english language, fit's it rythmically into his songs and makes melodies with his lyrics...to me that's the genius of Prince.
[Edited 11/9/05 17:31pm] you kinda answered ur own ? there.. you said he makes you feel like he and you are the only 2 in this world if not spiritualy or emotionaly... i mean there is something about him that alot of people can see or feel if in thier own way... when Prince plays he isnt just like most musicians who just play the music... there is something more to it, its like he has the ability to instantly transfer feelings and emotions through how he plays the notes, people i know who have seen Prince live and arnt even a fan have said to me how the experience was almost spiritual as in how emotional they felt from how he played the music... most Prince fans i have met have all talked about a deeper connection to his music and views on life... Prince is someone that most either hate or absolutely love... theres not many who sit on the fence so to speak... so obviousley theres somethin happenin there in that he generates strong emotions either way throughout the whole world... not everyone is expected to feel the same way but that dont mean its not there and those people cant feel it, people dont have to see it or feel it but that dont mean they have to go outa thier way to proove anyone who can wrong...! people who love Prince love him because of what they get from his music and the message in his music, all great art tries to convay a message or emotion !! and that message obviousley depends on the person recieving the message, his music is more than just about sellin albums... prince has this rare gift, i don't know where he gets it from, i haven't seen musician like him and don't feel that i ever will...not in this life-time. | |
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He places his beliefs in his music only to a certain point. He is smart enough to keep it to a generic placing of opinions. Going too far would put him in the place of Rage or Sinead. He is a smarter businessman then that. (Insert something clever here) |
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DarkKnight1 said: He places his beliefs in his music only to a certain point. He is smart enough to keep it to a generic placing of opinions. Going too far would put him in the place of Rage or Sinead. He is a smarter businessman then that.
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Prince can come up with statements and observations that are faily startling, but on the whole his logic is lazy and fisher-priced. His tendency to be cryptic can be both a blessing and a curse, because it makes some concepts arresting and can also often disguise the fact it's not deep, and other times it makes for pretty silly lyrics. | |
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Aerogram said: Prince can come up with statements and observations that are faily startling, but on the whole his logic is lazy and fisher-priced. His tendency to be cryptic can be both a blessing and a curse, because it makes some concepts arresting and can also often disguise the fact it's not deep, and other times it makes for pretty silly lyrics.
[Flame snipped - luv4u], Prince has done more for music than anyone in the history of the world just about [Flame snipped - luv4u]this is a fan site, were on here cause we love him not cause we wanna bag him, theres nothin wrong with not agreein to everything he does [Flame snipped - luv4u] | |
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meltwithyou said: i have recently been heavily criticized by some on this site simply for stating that i believe Prince communicates his feelings and beliefs to real supporters through his music and that Prince sees the world on a deeper level than most... because of this people have said i'm "crazy or i worship him as a god" although i must say i have had support on this from other members but was totally amazed at the narrow minded views i was hit with on such a site like this SO.... i ask... do you see a deeper side or meaning in a lot of P's music or are they just a bunch of songs about nuthin...
hmm.. family name... dear mr man.... hello.... dolphin... purple rain... race... etc etc etc etc [Edited 11/8/05 20:20pm] Sometimes he does. But someof it is an intrpretation of the listerner. Satisfied? | |
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XxAxX said: sure he expresses his feeling through his lyrics. all songwriters do that.
i just don't think he's worthy of being considered a spiritual leader, as you pegged him in the last thread, meltwithyou NO way. you would want to read about TRUE spiritual leaders and then compare their lifestyles to that led by prince in order to simply understand what i mean. read about kahlil gibran. mother theresa. read about these truly unselfish people who devoted their life not to personal gain, fame or fortune, but to other people in need. failing that, try to imagine krishana or allah or jesus preaching some of the anger prince has voiced over the course of his career. THANKS FOR THE CLAIRITY. IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. | |
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meltwithyou said:[quote] XxAxX said: sure he expresses his feeling through his lyrics. all songwriters do that.
i just don't think he's worthy of being considered a spiritual leader, as you pegged him in the last thread, meltwithyou NO way. you would want to read about TRUE spiritual leaders and then compare their lifestyles to that led by prince in order to simply understand what i mean. read about kahlil gibran. mother theresa. read about these truly unselfish people who devoted their life not to personal gain, fame or fortune, but to other people in need. failing that, try to imagine krishana or allah or jesus preaching some of the anger prince has voiced over the course of his career. [Flame snipped - luv4u] what i said was he has always been like !!! a spiritual leader to a lot of his fans who are uplifted by his message !!! [Flame snipped - luv4u]if you dont see a deeper meaning in his music and words thats your perogative.. it doesnt mean it isnt there just because you dont see it... i have actually studied world religions for over 20 years so dont preach to me about what spirituality is... [Flame snipped - luv4u] you seem to forget or dont know about ALL the people Prince has helped and ALL the People who have worked with him who say nothing but GOOD about him and ALL the money he donates to charity and ALL the charities he has help set up like the recent s.s.t single to help those affected by katrina [Flame snipped - luv4u] | |
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PanicAttack said: XxAxX said: sure he expresses his feeling through his lyrics. all songwriters do that.
i just don't think he's worthy of being considered a spiritual leader, as you pegged him in the last thread, meltwithyou NO way. you would want to read about TRUE spiritual leaders and then compare their lifestyles to that led by prince in order to simply understand what i mean. read about kahlil gibran. mother theresa. read about these truly unselfish people who devoted their life not to personal gain, fame or fortune, but to other people in need. failing that, try to imagine krishana or allah or jesus preaching some of the anger prince has voiced over the course of his career. THANKS FOR THE CLAIRITY. IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. [Flame snipped - luv4u] | |
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PanicAttack said: meltwithyou said: [Flame snipped - luv4u] what i said was he has always been like !!! a spiritual leader to a lot of his fans who are uplifted by his message !!! [Flame snipped - luv4u]if you dont see a deeper meaning in his music and words thats your perogative.. it doesnt mean it isnt there just because you dont see it... i have actually studied world religions for over 20 years so dont preach to me about what spirituality is... [Flame snipped - luv4u] you seem to forget or dont know about ALL the people Prince has helped and ALL the People who have worked with him who say nothing but GOOD about him and ALL the money he donates to charity and ALL the charities he has help set up like the recent s.s.t single to help those affected by katrina [Flame snipped - luv4u] [Flame snipped - luv4u] because they R... [Flame bait snipped - luv4u]  | |
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meltwithyou said: Aerogram said: Prince can come up with statements and observations that are faily startling, but on the whole his logic is lazy and fisher-priced. His tendency to be cryptic can be both a blessing and a curse, because it makes some concepts arresting and can also often disguise the fact it's not deep, and other times it makes for pretty silly lyrics.
[Flame snipped - luv4u] , Prince has done more for music than anyone in the history of the world just about [Flame snipped - luv4u]this is a fan site, were on here cause we love him not cause we wanna bag him, theres nothin wrong with not agreein to everything he does [Flame snipped - luv4u] I've defended Prince on all kinds of stuff but as for his skills in expressing deep ideas, [Flame snipped - luv4u] | |
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Aerogram said: meltwithyou said: [Flame snipped - luv4u] , Prince has done more for music than anyone in the history of the world just about [Flame snipped - luv4u]this is a fan site, were on here cause we love him not cause we wanna bag him, theres nothin wrong with not agreein to everything he does [Flame snipped - luv4u] I've defended Prince on all kinds of stuff but as for his skills in expressing deep ideas, [Flame snipped - luv4u] If you can't stand a discussion, just write fan letters. Again, there would be no need to discuss if we all agreed in the first place. Pretty boring if you ask me. [/quote] [Flame snipped - luv4u] | |
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meltwithyou said: PanicAttack said: THANKS FOR THE CLAIRITY. IT'S VERY MUCH APPRECIATED. [Flame snipped - luv4u] [Flame snipped - luv4u] | |
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